[Mafia] Galaxy-Sane Mafia: A CubicalSucrose Concoction

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NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

As someone who constantly questions their sanity when playing these games, I guess this one is perfect for me! Sure, I read the rules. Hit me with your drug-addled cops or whatever this is.

# ¿ Jun 28, 2023 07:07

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# ¿ Dec 9, 2024 15:49

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Well, aren't we off to a flying start. I thought multiple teams seemed pretty plausible going into this, though I wasn't quite expecting it to come out this quickly.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 11:26

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

PlasticAutomaton posted:

I may have made a horrible mistake choosing this game as my first back from hiatus.

If you'd like, we could vote you out first so you don't have to suffer the crazy. Just let us know! I'd happily join in, for old time's sake.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 11:34

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

The Ding clan has suffered too much from infighting in the past, we must not forsake our responsibilities to each other again.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 11:41

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

saladscooper posted:

i'm a delegate from the Naive Commission, any Normals wanna step forward?

If you'll have me, I guess. I'm here on behalf of the Normal Coalition.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 12:10

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

I hope we can all agree to respect the principle of diplomatic immunity, yes?

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 12:11

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Hold it there for a moment Zoya. I don't know if we've all agreed to this plan just yet. While to some extent I agree to the idea of hunting down the solo (assuming they exist), mostly because they probably have way stronger powers than the rest and thus a potential threat, doing it this way will likely lead to a bunch of people's alignments being revealed first. And it probably wont be evenly distributed among the teams. For all we know, that could disproportionately help one team accomplish their wincon.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 18:23

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

I think there might be a better way. If there's something every team has seen, but the solo has not, we could use that as a code to flush them out by having everyone post something related to it. Not sure how I'd go about that, though. Something based on the letters in a mod message every team may or may not have received? I dunno.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 18:48

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Of course, we have no way of knowing if such a message even exists, or that the solo didn't get it too, but that's the sort of thing that might be more "team neutral".

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 18:49

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Another problem with this plan: It assumes people will step up to save their team members. How do we know there isn't a team of jesters or something?

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 19:00

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

What if, instead, it goes:

paranoid suggests you
insane agrees
naive agrees
normal vetoes, suggests someone from the paranoid clan (outing you as normal)
paranoid vetoes, suggests someone from the normal clan (outing someone as paranoid)
insane agrees
naive agrees
normal vetoes, suggests someone from the naive clan (outing someone as normal)
paranoid agrees,
insane agrees
naive vetoes, suggests someone from the normal clan (outing someone as naive)
normal vetoes, suggests someone from the insane clan (outing someone as normal)
paranoid agrees,
insane vetoes, suggests the solo (outing someone as insane)

And so on? Then my entire team would be outed and only one of each of the others. An extreme example, obviously. But it puts my team at a significant disadvantage.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 19:08

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Er, ignore the slight issue in the sequence there, copy/paste is hosed. But you get my meaning I hope.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 19:09

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Fine, whatever. I guess we're doing this. I can indeed vouch for Voodoo as Normal.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 19:39

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Honestly I'm still not sure if Keats was actually vetoing Fool or not and I think this whole thing has gone wayyy out of control at this point.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 19:57

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Sandwolf posted:

What do you suggest in the alternate?

I did come up with a hypothetical alternative earlier, I'm just not sure how to make it workable in practical terms.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 20:00

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

I have a pretty strong feeling the game probably won't end immediately once the solo's out, just based on what my team's wincon is.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 20:02

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

I have a question for you, Zoya: How do you know someone won't just cover for the solo? What makes you so sure that nobody would back someone not part of their own team?

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 20:05

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Zoya posted:

I dunno! But that would be revealed at the end of the process when everyones teams are revealed and one team is shown to have acted in bad faith, and then we just vote out their delegate for being a stinky liar!

And then everone would have their alignments public.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 20:08

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Voodoofly posted:

Hold the gently caress up

Hal is normal

Why is salad clearing Hal?

I guess the cat's out of the bag. Yeah, this is what I was alluding to.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 20:13

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Now you know my entire team. Which is what I wanted to avoid, and kept railing against, but now it's happened.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 20:14

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Yami Fenrir posted:

Just out the teams at this point, it's where it's going anyway.

Yeah, that's my thinking at this point as well.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 20:32

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Normal compared to the rest!

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 20:33

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

So I guess the solo is one of Spork, Illu and TM?

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 20:33

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Fine then. I'm not going to let this go to waste, so ##vote Illusionis

If somebody's fibbin' again I'll be real mad.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 20:39

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

So, I'd just like to inform people that Illu might not actually be immortal. One of us Normals had a one-shot no-execute, which was apparently shared with Illu. It's been used up.

# ¿ Jul 16, 2023 21:27

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Illusionis posted:

My vote is also for sale for any team that would be so inclined. I'm not a threat to anybody and my victory condition is not in any way dependent to anything that any team does

Is that wincon compatible with ours though? We have no way to know that, we'd have to take your word for this and that you're no threat.

# ¿ Jul 16, 2023 21:31

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

In my opinion, nothing has really changed. I'm still okay with a ##vote Illusionis.

# ¿ Jul 16, 2023 21:33

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Illusionis posted:

I mean I'm not playing mafia, but I enjoy puzzle games so yeah. I do get how you or others might not be as this isn't what I expected when I signed up for a mafia, but a really big game of Mastermind is interesting for me personally

Let me guess - You're trying to find everyone's alignment+sanity combinations?

# ¿ Jul 16, 2023 21:37

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Just to suffer

# ¿ Jul 16, 2023 21:42

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Yami Fenrir posted:

Question to team Normal: are you interested in an alliance?

Quite possibly. I'm fine with Zoya as the vote as well, we were the first to be forced into the open by that questionable plan. ##vote Zoya

# ¿ Jul 17, 2023 08:33

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Maugrim posted:

It's not the lack of engagement I'm voting on here, it's people not enjoying playing the game - which is evident from salad's d1 posting

It's the best argument I have against people turboing my teammate lol

Well you signed up for this after seeing how things went down, so by extension you clearly enjoy playing and we shouldn't vote you, right? Is that what you're getting at? :v:

# ¿ Jul 17, 2023 10:30

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

It's basically a gunsmith, yeah.

# ¿ Jul 18, 2023 16:29

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Yami Fenrir posted:

I do kind of agree that TM is a likely killer and therefore needs to be removed.

I will respect a fellow Ding's judgement. ##vote Tired Moritz

# ¿ Jul 19, 2023 14:56

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Illu is not a killer, for what it's worth. Voodoofly checked Illu as a priority for obvious reasons, and with what we now know the result clearly shows that Illu is not a killer.

# ¿ Jul 21, 2023 11:10

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

I'm against an Illu vote for the moment.

# ¿ Jul 21, 2023 21:14

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Maugrim posted:

That's -1. However I don't think Illu is the right choice just yet.

If Team Normal are willing to join me on Punkreas that'll give fos the choice of hammer

Doesn't look like there are too many alternatives for us right now. I'm down with this.

##vote Punkreas

# ¿ Jul 21, 2023 21:41

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

So it's come to this. Illu, I though we had some good times together. But I guess this was inevitable, and you dun goofed. You fell into our trap. We don't have a killer, for the record. Our "killer role" equivalent, with what we know of our sanities, is a "future Doc" which saves someone on the next night ("Trainee Bioterrorist"). That's all I'm going to say on this matter for reasons that will be obvious in a moment.

Turns out Illu is a killer after all - or that's what team Normal is assuming, despite his vehement denials in our masonry. Yes, really. Illu got to pick someone to have an unconfirmed masonry with on N0 (To help get a head start and find some allies as the loner, is what I assume is the game design reasoning). It was me. We in team Normal have essentially been on-and-off allies from the beginning (we cooperated by giving Illu a lot of info about our role assignments, and Illu also helped to corroborate some of our sanities), that's part of why I was so opposed to Zoya's plan D1. Things got a bit strained after that whole mess gained steam, and we decided to play along to not get dogpiled by the rest of you if Illu was dangerous. We were still a little unsure about trusting Illu at that point, especially when we had Voodoo check N1 and got "can kill". When Voodoo was confirmed to be Insane by Illu in the masonry we figured they could be somewhat trusted (we even did this whole thing where Josef publicly attempted to send a "coded message" telling Illu some stuff to "explain" why we made up), but no longer.

JosefStalinator posted:

Autoerotic asphyxiation

Of course, Illu is going to deny all this - I would be very surprised to see Illu actually admit it, since that's suicidal.

Our team's alignment seer got an impossible result looking at Illu last night (it seems Illu just gives completely random results from checks, which means Voodoo's is also useless) - and I lost my BP. I had told Illu that Hal had it, for the record.

I have no idea what Illu's actual plan is here - maybe force a five-way tie for some reason? But I'm not going to take this lying down. ##vote Illusionis

If you doubt all of this, know that I did breadcrumb it very early on right here:

NeverHelm posted:

I have a question for you, Zoya: How do you know someone won't just cover for the solo? What makes you so sure that nobody would back someone not part of their own team?

Salad gave me a good cover for it, thankfully - I was hoping to use that legitimate grievance to stop Zoya's plan and keep Illu hidden, but then things devolved and everyone got revealed anyway. :shrug:

# ¿ Jul 22, 2023 22:54

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

Yami Fenrir posted:

What result did you get from Illu?

Assuming you mean last night's sanity check: Paranoid.

# ¿ Jul 22, 2023 23:04

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

NeverHelm posted:

Our "killer role" equivalent, with what we know of our sanities, is a "future Doc" which saves someone on the next night ("Trainee Bioterrorist").

Here. Note that this did not come into play today, as far as we know.

# ¿ Jul 22, 2023 23:11

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# ¿ Dec 9, 2024 15:49

NeverHelm: Aug 9, 2017; Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.

The Normal version of it was essentially a PGO, for the record.

# ¿ Jul 22, 2023 23:13

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