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Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

I have not read any rules and I assume I will be allowed to dayvig anyone I please at any point by ##day actions.

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Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help


##vote illu

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

I’m just going to assume that the end state of this game is to end up in the Sugarcube music video and enjoy the ride along the way. Based off just the first couple hours seems likely as anything else.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Johnny Keats posted:

If you do anything mafia-related in a cube game, you've already lost.

Don’t speak too soon. I might be willing to vote cube finally.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Reading this thread before coffee on a Saturday was the wrong idea

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Illusionis posted:

Probably need something stronger than coffee for this one

If you can send over some Lakka or, um, that licorice liqueur that is like Sakilali something, it would be appreciated.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

fool of sound posted:

No, but I’m hesitant to overshare on D1 when victory conditions are unknown.

Yeah this is basically where I’m at. Like whoever has the idea about trying to use delegates to ferret out a solo seems logical but it also seems to simple. Considering there seems to be more thought in just our role pms than I’ve ever put into a game I doubt it’s something simple that can solve this.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Zoya posted:

OK. The Paranoid Council puts forth this vote: ##vote Voodoofly

Keats, neverhelm, salad: any objections? whosoever has an objection, put forth an alternative vote to the table, and this cycle will repeat until none of us object.

non-diplomats: now is the time to speak up if any of the four of us lied about representing your team. i will treat silence on this matter as faith in your diplomat, as speaking up reveals your alignment

a recap of the strategy, in case anyone is confused (we're all confused)

Im still not sold this is a good idea

but if you were going to do this we should vote a delegate and let that team internally decide who they want to expose to save their delegate



So basically delegate of mine don’t vouch for me yet

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Basically I’m not convinced that a solo player is a bigger threat than what some of the other groups wincon might be and I don’t know if I agree about outing an entire team potentially to get rid of a solo.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Honestly if we do go with randomly voting people and having them vouch then I think that a delegate should be forced to reveal one of their own along with a vote.

That way at least keeps it a bit balanced. If you are asking someone else to get outed you have thrown in some real consideration by outing one of your own.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

shwinnebego posted:

How might it disproportionately benefit zoyas team. I’m squinting hard at this post to try to ascertain something about what you seem to know about possible wincons

I’m just picturing a team that wins by eliminating a certain sanity. Like a group of bounty hunters

Reminiscing about Hal sniping Tom tucker in the good place when Tom was like “I don’t see why revealing my flavor could do anything” and then getting shot for it.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

What about just a predetermined sequence but we use the sanities to add variable

Like say:

Normal 1
Naive 2
Paranoid 3
Insane 4

Start at player 1 (or 17 or whatever) and if someone vouches for that player we move down the player list by whatever the sanity was and keep going, skipping players that have been outed until we hit the solo

This keeps it random but preserves the ability to not out everyone unless solo ends up being last somehow?

If we do this I don’t care if I’m the first player.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Zoya posted:

see now keats here is a good egg, the Insane Tribe is engaging with my gambit in good faith

any thoughts on voodoofly, keats?

DELEGATE ROULETTE:
Paranoid suggests Voodoofly
Insane [agrees/disagrees?]
Naive?
Normal?
Paranoid?
Insane?
Naive?
Normal?
[...]

...brother that is literally almost no different from the strategy i started with in the first place

It’s different in that it’s random, and you have no idea if this will out your entire team or none of them

Half the problem I have is you are pushing this but not willing to offer up anything on your side first as a show of good faith.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Like even your suggested taking turns isn’t even a snake order and guarantees that you will never be the team that has the most members outed unless silo is last to be found.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Do you not understand the difference between the next player put up is random versus the next player put up is guaranteed not to be x alignment?

Look if we are voting the solo day 1 then I see three options:

1 we alll out everyone on our teams and everyone is equally exposed, solo is eliminated
2 we do a true random selection where every team has an equal chance to out none, some or all of their team before we find solo. It’s not technically equal as I’d be willing to go first here thereby ensuring they my team is possibly the only team that puts any info
3 your semi random where based on your order you have automatically put the first team as having the best chance of outing the least info and the last team to select as having the worst chance of outing the most info


So fine if we do your way then paranoid should act last, not first. You are putting forth an imbalanced plan and putting yourself in the seat with the best odds, which seems self dealing

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Again let’s just go random. It’s faster as it only takes one response to move on (the vouching delegate or an already outed player) rather than four for each person on the block

But whatever at this point I don’t really care

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Whatever I’m normal. Never can vouch no need to wait for salad before never speaks up

I nominate Fool of Sound as they are first in the player list.

Anyone vouching for fool?

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Look I don’t want to play a game that is just team survivor

But I have faith that someone designed a game where a solo can obviously be outed day 1 and it will still be interesting

So let’s just rid ourselves of the solo


Also did Keats actually clear fool?

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Zoya posted:

Sounds like a great motivation not to cover for the solo

Keats, neverhelm, wanna claim your man Josef? Or is Josef the solo?

Josef is normal let’s move this along

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

saladscooper posted:

This plan is loving stupid, not because it’s a bad idea whole cloth but because it turns the game into not social deduction in a way that is not fun for me personally.

I veto Hal and suggest Josef

Hold the gently caress up

Hal is normal

Why is salad clearing Hal?

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Zoya posted:

Excellent! We need a suggestion from Team Normal, please.

Team normal wants Keats or someone on Keats team to affirmatively clear fool

And for salad to explain the Hal thing

Then we will nominate

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Yeah like just play or vote yourself and go but I’d rather not debate the meaning of mafia while the game is running

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

I’m just not understanding how you can know the setup in day 1?

Like this could be rad. It might not be but then again some mafia games don’t work even when they are normal mafia

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Anyway can we keep outing everyone else now that all of us normals are outed.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Normal cedes nomination to naive team for the gracious move

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

NeverHelm posted:

So I guess the solo is one of Spork, Illu and TM?

Unless Keats is full of poo poo as he won’t confirm fool and nobody else will speak on on that team

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Zoya posted:

Well, keep in mind that if a single team has been engaging in bad faith, we've got a coalition of 12 furious votes to hurl towards them if it turns out that way!

I just want to vote Keats for yelling at me to vote cube all game long in opops last game but it agreeing to vote cube here in cubes game.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Wait I’m already voting illu!

I ducking knew only scum would post We Didn’t Start the Fire!

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Johnny Keats posted:

When did I not agree to vote Cube? I would vote Cube. I would do anything. I don't think my win condition is achievable so I'm just vibing

We can vote cube after we vote Illu deal?

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Sandwolf posted:

I genuinely don’t get why we’re even here lol

To enlighten each other

Did you ever listen to Boston’s own Fiddlehead? They have a new album coming out soon but their last album (linked below) is one of my favorites of the last few years. +1 to Boston I suppose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3HTk6WMuTY

Also main guy in Fiddlehead was main guy in Have Heart, one of the best hardcore/emo/whatever bands of their era. +2 to Boston I suppose.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

CubicalSucrose posted:

[Announcement] Maugrim has replaced Sandwolf, the game continues. VF updates for the day are pending, please ping me if there's a hammer in the next hour or so and I need to close thread.

drat you sand you could have at least waited for my fiddlehead post!

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Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Thanks for the game cube. I’d be lying if I said I understood it but I’m glad you tried to run something new. I was having fun until I died and then I had fun stop trying to figure out how to win

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