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Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*

Croccers posted:

Actually the response to this is what's annoying me.

This is just 10-5. Or 10-5-3. Or whatever Brand/Store executive renames it to to make it sound like they came up with it. This isn't new. Target was more than likely already doing this. It's clearly just attention fishing and 'Dunking' on them is giving them it.

I disagree, all of those policies are toxic boomer bullshit that should be done away with.

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Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Croccers posted:

Actually the response to this is what's annoying me.

This is just 10-5. Or 10-5-3. Or whatever Brand/Store executive renames it to to make it sound like they came up with it. This isn't new. Target was more than likely already doing this. It's clearly just attention fishing and 'Dunking' on them is giving them it.

No one will listen to you. I said the same thing twice and you agree with me and you didn't listen to me!

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012

Mercury_Storm posted:

I disagree, all of those policies are toxic boomer bullshit that should be done away with.
Oh I'm not saying they're not poo poo, I'm saying these are already long time established practices that hospitality (which is where it came from) and retail have been using for decades. Target knows this, they're just stirring poo poo so people remember they exist again.
Go back 20 years and you'll see folks complaining about workers saying Hello to them and Asking if they need help when closer.

Both twitter and bsky go all 'just block trolls, don't retweet/resky them, starve them of attention', but then the same people are so desperate to get their dunks in and ???

Croccers fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Nov 10, 2025

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

I'm not going to look back at anything or remember anything that someone said about me or an opinion that was had, I'm going to think about the championships that we won.

Fallom posted:

I would love some kind of universal "don't loving talk to me" feature like Uber offers

lol is that true

that is pretty dystopian

Wii Spawn Camper
Nov 25, 2005

:powercatte:

Fallom posted:

I would love some kind of universal "don't loving talk to me" feature like Uber offers

Wearing headphones/ear buds unlocks this ability, you don’t even need to really be playing anything.

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




what's more, if someone talks to you, you are under no obligation to answer them

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

♜♞♝🧂🐟♝♞♜
Cybernetic Crumb

Bad Purchase posted:

what's more, if someone talks to you, you are under no obligation to answer them

Nothing more normal!

Fallom
Sep 6, 2008

euphronius posted:

lol is that true

that is pretty dystopian

nothing more dystopian than not engaging with synthetic brand-focused conversations

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.


euphronius posted:

lol is that true

that is pretty dystopian

it doesn't even work

BlackIronHeart
Aug 1, 2004

PROCEED

Bad Purchase posted:

what's more, if someone talks to you, you are under no obligation to answer them

Please do not interrupt me while I'm ignoring you.

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

♜♞♝🧂🐟♝♞♜
Cybernetic Crumb

Fallom posted:

nothing more dystopian than not engaging with synthetic brand-focused conversations

Having a bad job doesn’t make you a bad person.

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012
There's a Gibson novel where they meet a gig worker whose job is literally to look like a high flier, flirt with people in bars, and slip [your product here] into the conversation. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's now real!

I think they freak out and quit when they realise how many people are doing the same thing back to them.

Strategic Tea fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Nov 10, 2025

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

Fallom
Sep 6, 2008

Salt Fish posted:

Having a bad job doesn’t make you a bad person.

did you mean to respond to someone else

Fallom
Sep 6, 2008

Squiggle posted:

it doesn't even work

it's true, solicitors will happily blow past my "no trespassing" sign and walk several hundred feet only to be told to gently caress off at my door

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

♜♞♝🧂🐟♝♞♜
Cybernetic Crumb

Fallom posted:

did you mean to respond to someone else

Yes I can see your expert conversational skills in full display here.

Fallom
Sep 6, 2008

Is this like when an ADHD person has a conversation in their head that you're not party to

ChthonicMasturbatr
Sep 29, 2021

born on a mountain
live in a cave
hugging and tugging
is all that i crave

Strategic Tea posted:

There's a Gibson novel where they meet a gig worker whose job is literally to look like a high flier, flirt with people in bars, and slip [your product here] into the conversation. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's now real!

It also made for two really good episodes of Community

Wumpus
Oct 16, 2003

ᴄᴏɴɢʀᴀᴛᴜʟᴀᴛɪᴏɴs!

Strategic Tea posted:

There's a Gibson novel where they meet a gig worker whose job is literally to look like a high flier, flirt with people in bars, and slip [your product here] into the conversation. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's now real!

I think they freak out and quit when they realise how many people are doing the same thing back to them.

This exact thing happened to me earlier this year. Big casual nerd event with no door control, group chatting at a long bar height table, some guy in his 20s sits down and tunes in and eventually slips in a pointed comment about some investment service that is totally block chain.

Could have been newly turned on to it and obsessing, going for a referral, maybe just feeding the pyramid, but it sure as poo poo wasn't subtle.

E: except for the high flier bit, factory standard bro.

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012
Yeah come to think of it the creepy bit in the novel was that there was no hook or referral or anything to let on - the goal was purely 'oh the cool person from Manhattan said they liked these...' You'd never know!

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
Jesus christ some of you guys are loving weird. I have some severe mental problems but I am not revolted by another human loving looking at me. I don't even have much human contact since I don't do anything and rarely leave my house, but a grocery store employing looking at me doesn't drive me insane.

God drat guys. wtf is wrong with you? This poo poo is creepy as hell.

quick edit: yeah I understand the fake corporate smiles and poo poo are stupid but some of you goons seem offended by other people existing and that's not normal.

Fallom
Sep 6, 2008

Strategic Tea posted:

Yeah come to think of it the creepy bit in the novel was that there was no hook or referral or anything to let on - the goal was purely 'oh the cool person from Manhattan said they liked these...' You'd never know!

I'm so glad SAP's new AI-centric workflow gave me the time to cut out early and play Catan with my best friends

tight aspirations
Jul 13, 2009

Pennywise the Frown posted:

Jesus christ some of you guys are loving weird. I have some severe mental problems but I am not revolted by another human loving looking at me. I don't even have much human contact since I don't do anything and rarely leave my house, but a grocery store employing looking at me doesn't drive me insane.

God drat guys. wtf is wrong with you? This poo poo is creepy as hell.

quick edit: yeah I understand the fake corporate smiles and poo poo are stupid but some of you goons seem offended by other people existing and that's not normal.

im only speaking for me, but a lot of autistic/nd people dont like being percieved/ looked at because dependent on a lot of factors, it can feel like im being judged even when im doing something entirely innocuous. i can imagine its a lot worse for minorities or whatever stripe, because im male white and 6'

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Yo I do be shocked at how misanthropic people on the forums are sometimes

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

Wumpus posted:

This exact thing happened to me earlier this year. Big casual nerd event with no door control, group chatting at a long bar height table, some guy in his 20s sits down and tunes in and eventually slips in a pointed comment about some investment service that is totally block chain.

Could have been newly turned on to it and obsessing, going for a referral, maybe just feeding the pyramid, but it sure as poo poo wasn't subtle.

E: except for the high flier bit, factory standard bro.

This would definitely be dystopian and creepy. But only if your assumption is correct. A lot of business people are just always "on" and thinking about making money anytime anywhere.

I think the whole idea of "influencer" is hosed up to me. So every youtube personality who tries to hawk poo poo is just really weird to me. They could have picked a less evil sounding title.

Roblo
Dec 10, 2007

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Pennywise the Frown posted:

Jesus christ some of you guys are loving weird. I have some severe mental problems but I am not revolted by another human loving looking at me. I don't even have much human contact since I don't do anything and rarely leave my house, but a grocery store employing looking at me doesn't drive me insane.

God drat guys. wtf is wrong with you? This poo poo is creepy as hell.

quick edit: yeah I understand the fake corporate smiles and poo poo are stupid but some of you goons seem offended by other people existing and that's not normal.

I think you're getting overly worked up over a few comments from goons, maybe some of which were a bit hyperbolic.

No one minds a hello or whatever, or a "let me know if you need a hand", but a succession of store workers all saying the same canned phrase and not leaving you alone? Neither side wants that.

Chill out.

Wumpus
Oct 16, 2003

ᴄᴏɴɢʀᴀᴛᴜʟᴀᴛɪᴏɴs!
Grabbing a free sample while refusing to interact with or acknowledge the human behind the counter is a delicate balance.

Fallom
Sep 6, 2008

Pennywise the Frown posted:

This would definitely be dystopian and creepy. But only if your assumption is correct. A lot of business people are just always "on" and thinking about making money anytime anywhere.

I think the whole idea of "influencer" is hosed up to me. So every youtube personality who tries to hawk poo poo is just really weird to me. They could have picked a less evil sounding title.

iirc "influencer" originated in corporate boardrooms as a descriptor of people who could abuse parasocial relationships to market a product to a group of people less likely to respond negatively to the advertisement.

it's wild that it kind of took off in public because yeah it's an insane descriptor for people on the other side of it to use in a positive context

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Yo I do be shocked at how misanthropic people on the forums are sometimes

Is it misanthropic to wish to be invisible?

redshirt fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Nov 10, 2025

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

I'm not going to look back at anything or remember anything that someone said about me or an opinion that was had, I'm going to think about the championships that we won.
i think it would be optimal to say hello to an uber driver but i understand all the factors at play and how the world isnt great at all

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

Fallom posted:

iirc "influencer" originated in corporate boardrooms as a descriptor of people who could abuse parasocial relationships to market a product to a group of people less likely to respond negatively to the advertisement.

it's wild that it kind of took off in public because yeah it's an insane descriptor for people on the other side of it to use in a positive context

:psyduck:

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




Fallom posted:

iirc "influencer" originated in corporate boardrooms as a descriptor of people who could abuse parasocial relationships to market a product to a group of people less likely to respond negatively to the advertisement.

it's wild that it kind of took off in public because yeah it's an insane descriptor for people on the other side of it to use in a positive context

i’m just a humble consumer, i don’t concern myself with labels

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

redshirt posted:

Is it misanthropic to wish to be invisible?

Antianthropic

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

redshirt posted:

Is it misanthropic to wish to be invisible?

You have to accept a basic level of human contact to live in this world and getting upset at that is weird.

Even freaky hermits need things that they can't provide and will have to interact with society at some point.

mystes
May 31, 2006

Pennywise the Frown posted:

Jesus christ some of you guys are loving weird. I have some severe mental problems but I am not revolted by another human loving looking at me. I don't even have much human contact since I don't do anything and rarely leave my house, but a grocery store employing looking at me doesn't drive me insane.

God drat guys. wtf is wrong with you? This poo poo is creepy as hell.

quick edit: yeah I understand the fake corporate smiles and poo poo are stupid but some of you goons seem offended by other people existing and that's not normal.
I'm fine saying hi and thank you and everything to people at the grocery store but I don't always have the energy to try to give some sort of long winded response about how great I'm doing while they also are being required to pretend to care which is also dumb

Grocery stores already suck and by the time I get to the register I usually have like zero energy left for unnecessary fake interactions and just want to get the gently caress out of there

mystes fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Nov 10, 2025

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

mystes posted:

I'm fine saying hi and thank you and everything to people at the grocery store but I don't always have the energy to try to give some sort of long winded response about how great I'm doing while they also are being required to pretend to care which is also dumb

just say "I'm fine" and go about your day then

Unperson_47
Oct 14, 2007



my concern is the employees. i want to inconvenience them as little as possible because they have to put up with dumbass shithead customers all the time and i hate that they are forced to be nice to them and ask them how they're doing and poo poo

people working retail or food service or wahtever should get to slap 1 customer for free with no repercussions every day. every quarter they get 1 more slap pass per day

tech support / call center people should be able to shock people through the phone

Unperson_47 fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Nov 10, 2025

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

You have to accept a basic level of human contact to live in this world and getting upset at that is weird.

Even freaky hermits need things that they can't provide and will have to interact with society at some point.

If only vending machines were more widespread. *sighs*

idkacat
May 6, 2024

boop the snoot posted:

just say "I'm fine" and go about your day then

I envy you if you have never encountered a chatty stranger who can’t take the loving hint.

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boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

idkacat posted:

I envy you if you have never encountered a chatty stranger who can’t take the loving hint.

I work in retail. I get chatty strangers who can't take the hint all the time. Be an adult and just end the conversation.

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