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GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

301 hours.

I forgot to get a screenshot of the real final hand. I needed to complete another run before the trophy popped. Shame because was a really interesting deck, relying on 4ok wild card kings, a negative eternal flowerpot, and a negative eternal rental blueprint.



I did almost every gold sticker from 50-150 on anaglyph deck. I think that was the right move, and not just because of getting several negatives. Looking for an ante 1 25$ was the way to go, and hopefully getting a good economy tag in ante 2/3 was usually enough to save any run. Anaglyph deck turns any lovely economy tag into a passable one. It turns the "upgrade a hand by three levels" into an auto-win if you're getting it in ante 4/5. Like erratic deck, you get to do broken things when the extra tags create so much value. Draw over half your deck for the final boss using the hand size voucher? Free Chaos the Clown for the next six shops? And then I truly learned to appreciate the re-roll vouchers, not just to find the missing jokers, but in how much money they saved after 1-2 shops.

Final jokers totals:


An extra 100 hours and there wasn't a big change, except egg finally going down. I think Odd Todd would be next on the line. Card Sharp being the only uncommon, something which I started always picking up like Hanging Chad. I enjoy building up on one kind of hand (usually pair/two pair) during a run and don't like to pivot out, and Card Sharp played well with that. Easiest way to win with a normal run was finding a mult joker that scored on hands which got pumped up through Chad, then finding another xMult (probably a Throwback or Hologram) and then the final x3 from Card Sharp would beat most antes in 2 hands.

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Jossar
Apr 2, 2018

Current status: Angry about subs :argh:

Congratulations!

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

gvibes posted:

I suck so much at this game and can’t stop playing.

Thread title, please.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

GoutPatrol posted:

301 hours.

Congratulations!

Boywunda
Jun 25, 2003

gvibes posted:

I suck so much at this game and can’t stop playing.

I find that I think I'm getting good, then my high rear end forgets to check the boss blind and gently caress up half decent runs waaaaaay too often.

Tiny Myers
Jul 29, 2021

say hello to my little friend




Made it to the end of Painted Deck with this. Granted, it was only Blue Stake, but it was really fun to actually get decent value from Flower Pot for once in its life.

SmallpoxJenkins
Jul 9, 2012


Did a run before bed last night, turns out I had started a Ghost deck run at some point previously.
What I figured would be a throwaway run turned into a fairly easy win(all praise to Chad, Card Sharp and Sock/Buskin doing very funny things with red sealed Lucky cards).

Now back to the hell of Black Deck

WaffleACAB
Oct 31, 2010
I did my first gold on Ghost deck. Checkered was the next easiest but only up to orange before I started going through decks more sequentially (I got at least white on all decks early on). I've done gold on Blue deck, got lucky with that one.

Been working my way up Red deck, on gold stake atm. Easily done 50+ runs on this stake and deck, maybe 100 lmao. Trying to dial in my strategy now. First ante you don't really need any jokers:
Small Blind - high straight, flush or full house to one shot - easier on this deck with the extra discard but it's easy enough with the regular 2
Big Blind - one of the above plus something bigger than a two pair
Boss - again two big hands can get you over 600

My problem is taking the first +multi joker I see and getting tunnel vision on it, losing out on interest and missing other possible builds before it's too late. Last run I took a foil half joker early which made the first few antes really easy. Got the x-mult pair and 3oak jokers. But the pair one was perishable, that ran out and then it was harder to get the 3oaks. Died to the discard-held-cards-after-playing boss in like 5th ante, killed my steels and you can't really play dump hands once your discards are done, especially not when relying on the half joker.

I'm going to try ignoring all jokers except econ for the first ante. But smart about it ofc, Riff Raff is an econ joker for example.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



Abandoned deck was almost too easy...? No face cards, could focus on straights and other poo poo - then I got the Joker that deletes boss blinds - cruised to a win. :3:

Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012

ghost is the most fun and therefore best deck

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Vintersorg posted:

Abandoned deck was almost too easy...? No face cards, could focus on straights and other poo poo - then I got the Joker that deletes boss blinds - cruised to a win. :3:

It's definitely one of the stronger deck options, especially if you're going for consistency over high score. It does shut you out of a lot of powerful jokers--and worse, leaves them to clog up the joker pool and crowd out jokers that would actually be useful to you--but the existence of anti-facecard bosses means those are going to be high-risk, high-reward options anyhow.

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

GoutPatrol posted:

It turns the "upgrade a hand by three levels" into an auto-win if you're getting it in ante 4/5.

I had been using the Anaglyph Deck strategy, but missed this clear loving superweapon move. Thanks.

I had to skip once for my stamp card to go off at the boss and rerolled the boss blind 14 times.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



How do you get good at this as I see omega stars on reddit and I can't fathom getting scores that high. I can't count cards. :(

Hungry Squirrel
Jun 30, 2008

You gonna eat that?
For context I've beaten Blue deck twice and Green deck once, so please keep in mind that I am a baby player and I don't even know what I don't know.

Right now, I'm having trouble optimizing each hand to maximize points. I know that the order of the Jokers and the order of the cards-in-hand matter in terms of multiplier, and I know that I want to have plus-chips and plus-mults on the left, and times-mults on the furthest right. I think I know that there are cases where if I have a Joker or sticker that causes a card to re-trigger, then I want the affected card to be leftmost even if it's a times-mult card. I'm not sure how this applies to cards like Golden Ticket or Midas Mask.

I could also really use a calculator that would help make sense of how card value applies in relation to hand value. If I'm playing The Needle the difference between playing a level 3 full house and a level 4 flush, given the cards in hand, can make a real difference. I know that there are variables and it matters what jokers I have and all that, I don't want something that will play the game for me or perfectly optimize my hand, I just want something to help me with the arithmetic other than a legal pad and a calculator.

I'm aware that there are entire wikis based around the fine points of all this, but I don't yet have enough game experience to interpret and apply them. Is there a primer out there, or a card calculator, or something that is both comprehensive yet written for idiots that will hold my hand at 2am while I'm -thisclose- to actually winning?

El Jeffe
Dec 24, 2009

Balatro calculator: https://efhiii.github.io/balatro-calculator/

E: fixed link

Ok so don't click this if you're on mobile and use chrome apparently :whitewater: Here's a different one: https://balatro-calculator.vercel.app/

El Jeffe fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jan 27, 2025

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Edit: ^^^^^^ drat, that keeps crashing my mobile browser.

Hungry Squirrel posted:

I think I know that there are cases where if I have a Joker or sticker that causes a card to re-trigger, then I want the affected card to be leftmost even if it's a times-mult card. I'm not sure how this applies to cards like Golden Ticket or Midas Mask.

I may be mistaken, but having the retriggered cards on the left is only important when a joker says something about retriggering "the first <whatever> card."

Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012

There's no xChips so you can have +Chips in any position. +Mult before xMult is correct, though.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...


Just fyi, I'm using chrome on an android phone (Samsung galaxy s8) and it's killing my browser. As in, I can no longer open chrome before it crashes, as it keeps trying to load that site. Holy gently caress, no good. Not saying it's your fault, I'm sure it's fine on desktop but mobile users, be warned. I'm going to have to factory reset chrome, which is a massive pain in the rear end, due to all of my saved stuff in there.

El Jeffe
Dec 24, 2009

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Just fyi, I'm using chrome on an android phone (Samsung galaxy s8) and it's killing my browser. As in, I can no longer open chrome before it crashes, as it keeps trying to load that site. Holy gently caress, no good. Not saying it's your fault, I'm sure it's fine on desktop but mobile users, be warned. I'm going to have to factory reset chrome, which is a massive pain in the rear end, due to all of my saved stuff in there.

poo poo, sorry about that. I put a warning in for mobile chrome users.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

El Jeffe posted:

poo poo, sorry about that. I put a warning in for mobile chrome users.

I hope it's just me.

Can Of Worms
Sep 4, 2011

That's not how the Triangle Attack works...

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Just fyi, I'm using chrome on an android phone (Samsung galaxy s8) and it's killing my browser. As in, I can no longer open chrome before it crashes, as it keeps trying to load that site. Holy gently caress, no good. Not saying it's your fault, I'm sure it's fine on desktop but mobile users, be warned. I'm going to have to factory reset chrome, which is a massive pain in the rear end, due to all of my saved stuff in there.

Hopefully you haven’t done the reset as I post this, but can’t you turn off your internet connection before opening Chrome so that it fails to load the page?

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Can Of Worms posted:

Hopefully you haven’t done the reset as I post this, but can’t you turn off your internet connection before opening Chrome so that it fails to load the page?

Weeeeeeelp, I should have been smart enough to have thought of this.

Now I'm logged out of everything. Ugh. Anyone know how to get dark mode back for chrome when I don't have the 'themes' option? I was using dark mode before, but I can't find it now.

Edit: sorry, here's a more efficient build of the above post, and it includes a joker!

"Did I think to disable my internet connection before trying to solve my chrome issue, and did I have my chrome passwords backed up?"

:balatrono:

Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Jan 28, 2025

Dr. Fraiser Chain
May 18, 2004

Redlining my shit posting machine


Is there some hidden achievement or trigger to get every legendary joker? I'm at 3/5 with like 150 hrs in and every soul card is just the same 3 I've already seen.

Heavy_D
Feb 16, 2002

"rararararara" contains the meaning of everything, kept in simple rectangular structures
Everyone's always like "I have a good idea for a joker". But you know what, we really could do with your BAD ideas for jokers for once.

Popcorn Maker $6
Initial shop will always have a Popcorn joker for sale

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

The Masochist
×4 Mult
Shuffles all jokers after every hand

TACD fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Jan 29, 2025

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


The Sadist $10
x0.5 Mult

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

"What A Gas!" ($5, card has a green cloud behind a grimacing Jimbo)
+10 mult

- Jokers to the left and right of this joker are half as effective and valuable.

Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012

Dr. Fraiser Chain posted:

Is there some hidden achievement or trigger to get every legendary joker? I'm at 3/5 with like 150 hrs in and every soul card is just the same 3 I've already seen.

Play on gold stake and you'll be guaranteed to get legendaries you haven't gotten the sticker on yet.

overeager overeater
Oct 16, 2011

"The cosmonauts were transfixed with wonderment as the sun set - over the Earth - there lucklessly, untethered Comrade Todd on fire."



Heavy_D posted:

But you know what, we really could do with your BAD ideas for jokers for once.

"Rules of Poker" $4

Non-Eternal Jokers can be part of the hand, count as wildcard aces, are destroyed when scored

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Heavy_D posted:

Everyone's always like "I have a good idea for a joker". But you know what, we really could do with your BAD ideas for jokers for once.
Emotional Bond: x4 Mult if there is a joker to its right. Upon starting the next round, the joker to its right is permanently glued and bonded to it - moving one moves the other, and selling one will permanently disable the other.

Kuros
Sep 13, 2010

Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.
Legendary: Patientia

Retriggers your first card 20 times, however it sets your game speed to 0.2 for that run. Also, it is always eternal with a high chance of being negative.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

The Kins posted:

Emotional Bond: x4 Mult if there is a joker to its right. Upon starting the next round, the joker to its right is permanently glued and bonded to it - moving one moves the other, and selling one will permanently disable the other.

This is stupidly good, just gotta pair it with any other xMult

Hungry Squirrel
Jun 30, 2008

You gonna eat that?
Temper Tantrum: Each played [rank] of [suit] gives X2 when scored and-1 hand size when discarded. 1 in 5 chance card is destroyed at the end of round. Card changes every round.

Heavy_D
Feb 16, 2002

"rararararara" contains the meaning of everything, kept in simple rectangular structures
Concertina
During round, +1 hand size after each discard, -1 hand size after each hand played

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Mocking Joker
Reduce each scored cards value by 1

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe
Uno

x10 Mult if you play exactly one card and have no cards left in your deck or hand

ploots
Mar 19, 2010
Tapeworm
Gains +5 chips for each hand played
Each card discarded permanently loses 1 chip

Astronaut
+5 chips for the level of played hand

Cosmonaut
+1 mult for the level of played hand

Beginner's Luck
X3 mult
loses .1 xmult for level of played hand

Accomplice
x2 mult
This joker triggers when the joker to the right triggers

ploots fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Jan 29, 2025

Hungry Squirrel
Jun 30, 2008

You gonna eat that?

The Kins posted:

Emotional Bond: x4 Mult if there is a joker to its right. Upon starting the next round, the joker to its right is permanently glued and bonded to it - moving one moves the other, and selling one will permanently disable the other.

Make it negative and I'd legitimately use that; making it negative might require adding an extra debuff like a 1 in 100 chance for it to be destroyed and take the mated card with it, but I would still use the hell out of it.

(note that I won my second green deck run last night and it was hard, so my opinions are -X1 Mult compared to normal people)

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Hungry Squirrel posted:

Card changes every round.
This reminds me, is it a beginner’s fallacy for me to basically disregard jokers with the card/suit/hand changes every round aspect? The suit one I can maybe see paired with smeared joker but the others always seem way too unreliable to bother with.

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Hungry Squirrel
Jun 30, 2008

You gonna eat that?

TACD posted:

This reminds me, is it a beginner’s fallacy for me to basically disregard jokers with the card/suit/hand changes every round aspect? The suit one I can maybe see paired with smeared joker but the others always seem way too unreliable to bother with.

I'm new and I love the Ancient Joker. It's one of my favorites. It has a suit that changes every round so, while I'm still building my deck, even the crappy suits I'm trying to divest myself of can have some value. Whatever cards I have in hand, I can do -something- with. Plus, the randomness of it is just fun for me. It's like every new hand is a slightly different strategy needed and I love the spontaneity.

Stealth edit that, just about 48 hours and few posts above this one, is me asking for newbie help. I got a handle on the basics and have been having a blast with this ever since.

Hungry Squirrel fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Jan 29, 2025

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