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cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Annabel Pee posted:

I just found out Tina and her husband are actually husband and wife in real life and thought that was cute.

Is that cute, or is it blatant nepotism?

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Annabel Pee
Dec 29, 2008
I mean they're gonna have good chemistry. :shrug: Its not like he isn't a famous actor I just though hey its a cameo from that guy from Dexter.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
Nah I'm just taking a piss.
Technically it is nepotism, but I don't mind that. That guy fit that role well.

Jables88
Jul 26, 2010
Tortured By Flan
BTW the 'cameos' are a lot less of an issue if you recognise literally none of them.

I'm the guy who doesn't know what John Cena looks like in 2024, AMA.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Jables88 posted:

BTW the 'cameos' are a lot less of an issue if you recognise literally none of them.

I'm the guy who doesn't know what John Cena looks like in 2024, AMA.

If I didn't know him from Suicide Squad 2 and Peacemaker I probably wouldn't have recognised him either.

I had no idea any of those chefs were real chefs. How does everyone know what all the chefs look like? Are they all TV personalities in the US?

Jables88
Jul 26, 2010
Tortured By Flan

stev posted:

If I didn't know him from Suicide Squad 2 and Peacemaker I probably wouldn't have recognised him either.

I had no idea any of those chefs were real chefs. How does everyone know what all the chefs look like? Are they all TV personalities in the US?

Watching from the UK, I have to assume so. As far as I knew, these were just big name chefs from other restaurants in the Bearverse.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

stev posted:

If I didn't know him from Suicide Squad 2 and Peacemaker I probably wouldn't have recognised him either.

I had no idea any of those chefs were real chefs. How does everyone know what all the chefs look like? Are they all TV personalities in the US?
I recognized at least one of them from a brunch TV show. But all of them looked awkward as gently caress.

I don’t think the idea of having real chefs was unsalvageable. They needed to either whip the chefs into better actors or go the other direction, shoot a non-fiction docu interviewing them, then frame the fiction around it. I wouldn’t trust most shows to blend fiction and non-fiction, but The Bear could make it work.

TURTLE SLUT
Dec 12, 2005

That guy is a boring condom. You should fuck the mailbox. I help facilitate said fucking by applying an image of ilovebeersooomuch to said mailbox
I had no idea there were any celebrity chefs in the show, since I recognise very few of them, and they didn't really stick out. It wasn't like Ed Sheeran in GoT where they hold a closeup in his loving face. That scene with them in Olivia Colman's restaurant seemed like a highlighted, screenwriting version of some poo poo food industry people might say.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Vegetable posted:

I recognized at least one of them from a brunch TV show. But all of them looked awkward as gently caress.

I recognized Christina Tosi since I have her dessert book. Her breakfast cereal cake is awesome.

When she was talking about horrible bosses I could only assume she meant David Chang.

I like the speculation that the screenshot of Bradley Cooper is the show trying to get him on as an Anthony Bourdain type since he's played Bourdain in two separate projects already.


Overall the season definitely had its moments, but it feels like an entire season of the super serious penultimate episodes that prestige comedies have been doing the last few years.

Macdeo Lurjtux fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Aug 2, 2024

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
The chefs were also established by shots of a bunch of their press clippings. Those could’ve been made up by the writers but just from the vibe it was clear they were real to me.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Look deep within your shell
Some definite "shoot the neighborhood"-level acting in some scenes, like the guy at the market who tells Tina that the growing seasons are getting shorter.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Annabel Pee posted:

I mean they're gonna have good chemistry. :shrug: Its not like he isn't a famous actor I just though hey its a cameo from that guy from Dexter.

Don’t forget HBO’s Oz.

Borsche69
May 8, 2014

stev posted:

If I didn't know him from Suicide Squad 2 and Peacemaker I probably wouldn't have recognised him either.

I had no idea any of those chefs were real chefs. How does everyone know what all the chefs look like? Are they all TV personalities in the US?

im assuming a lot of people watching this show are either into cooking, or have served in the restaurant industry, and names like thomas keller and such will come up a lot if you do any digging in either environment. a lot of chefs have become pretty famous without having their own tv show anymore - probably a knock-on effect from bourdain's shows (since i know he's the one that made me aware of guys like thomas keller, daniel boulud, jose andres, eric ripert, rene redzepi david chang, sean brock, etc.)

panko
Sep 6, 2005

~honda best man~


I finished this season over the last month and found it inconsistent with occasional flashes of brilliance, which is on course with the previous couple of seasons. no "review" or "fishes" tier episode which does mean its the least good season thus far

Stegosnaurlax posted:

It's a well made show mimicing a prestige show. Between the art direction, the camera work and the expensive cast. It looks like something that should be a banger every episode, but the writing is dogshit.

I agree with this almost completely with the addendum that I think the writing is occasionally good which makes it more disappointing when the dialogue is homogenous and the plot beggars belief and stretches credulity, which happens often

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Annabel Pee posted:

I mean they're gonna have good chemistry. :shrug: Its not like he isn't a famous actor I just though hey its a cameo from that guy from Dexter.

My initial thought was, 'oh that guy, I guess her husband is going to have a decent sized role this season'.

Like how you always know the murderer in a law and order episode by who's the biggest star in the first 15 minutes.

^burtle
Jul 17, 2001

God of Boomin'



Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

I recognized Christina Tosi since I have her dessert book. Her breakfast cereal cake is awesome.

When she was talking about horrible bosses I could only assume she meant -Gordon-

she disappeared off MasterChef to bring Joe back lol

Ne Cede Malis
Aug 30, 2008
Couldnt finish the last episode. Just too much loving mental illness and trauma.

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

BRASIL HEXA
2026 tá logo aí

Ne Cede Malis posted:

Couldnt finish the last episode. Just too much loving mental illness and trauma.

+ weezer + smashing pumpkins

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

The Bear (season 2) just lost Best Comedy at the Emmys to Hacks. Biggest upset at the awards by some distance, although the pundits at NYT somehow saw this possibility. My guess is this is backlash for season 3 being not great and for them again trying to game the Emmy categories.

Super Deuce
May 25, 2006
TOILETS
Oh, I like the smell of my own dumps.
The Bear isn’t a comedy.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Vegetable posted:

The Bear (season 2) just lost Best Comedy at the Emmys to Hacks. Biggest upset at the awards by some distance, although the pundits at NYT somehow saw this possibility. My guess is this is backlash for season 3 being not great and for them again trying to game the Emmy categories.

Considering they won basically everything else they were up for I’m gonna say no, that’s not why.

Randabis
Apr 2, 2005

Super Deuce posted:

The Bear isn’t a comedy.

It’s a banana.

CatstropheWaitress
Nov 26, 2017

Super Deuce posted:

The Bear isn’t a comedy.

Was really surprised it got to classify itself as that. Their opening episode was an hour long rumination on how mentors can gently caress you up, even when they're the nicer ones. I can't recall a joke from it. They hung up any aspirations to be anything but drama back in the second season.

Reservation Dogs is also more drama than comedy, but at least it still did episodes that were "wouldn't it be funny if..." in their last season.

I guess they had John Cena come on and pretend to curse people. Ha ha ha.

GigaPeon
Apr 29, 2003

Go, man, go!

Super Deuce posted:

The Bear isn’t a comedy.

Then how come the episode everyone talks about had Bob Odenkirk and John Mulaney?

Seriously though if this is a Comedy, Fallout should have been, too.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Look deep within your shell
Jeremy Allen White looks more like Gene Wilder every day. He should have been Willy Wonka rather than Twinkothy Chalamet.

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

an always exasperated, apoplectic willy wonka would be cool

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

Hacks is a solid B+ show with some great performances, and importantly it's actually a comedy. Totally fine with it getting an Emmy win.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
I wonder if it'll matter that The Bear is basically a year behind for the awards. Hard to go with a season 3 episode to submit for best comedy for next year.

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

Or best anything

CatstropheWaitress
Nov 26, 2017

Best hard reset of a whole season of character development.
Best wheel spinning
Best job casting famous guest stars, regardless of suitability to the role
Best Jeremy Allen White

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible

CatstropheWaitress posted:

Best wheel spinning

I feel like there are a lot of shows in the running for that this year.

THIS_IS_FINE
May 21, 2001

Slippery Tilde
Season 3 was up its own rear end. Not sure if they switched writers/directors/literally everything but it felt like a different show and by the end I felt like I was hatewatching instead of enjoying it like the previous seasons. I also did not know that the people in the last episode were celebrity chefs. Uh cool I guess :thumbsup:

Professor Wayne
Aug 27, 2008

So, Harvey, what became of the giant penny?

They actually let him keep it.

THIS_IS_FINE posted:

Season 3 was up its own rear end. Not sure if they switched writers/directors/literally everything but it felt like a different show and by the end I felt like I was hatewatching instead of enjoying it like the previous seasons. I also did not know that the people in the last episode were celebrity chefs. Uh cool I guess :thumbsup:

Yeah, I'm not sure I'm going to watch the next season, tbh. I have a pet peeve about movies and shows these days refusing to resolve anything by the end of the film or season. I'm looking at you, Spider-Verse.

I just finished the show the other day and read through the thread. I agree with a lot of the criticisms. I feel like everything about the show is good except for the writing. One problem that stood out was the amount of fluff dialog that helped scenes stretch out way too long. Oliver Platt's quip about a bulldog tattooed on your cock in a dream stood out to me as something that probably seemed funny on the first draft, but landed awkwardly in the actual scene. And you couldn't cut it because every scene needed to drag long enough to hit an hour or however long the episodes are. It was good to see John Cena. But I was ready for him to gently caress off somewhere else when I heard him say "haunt" for the twentieth time. And then he went on a duck adventure that they didn't even show us!

Olivia Coleman's big scene with Carmy was dire. She talked in the most basic cliches like she was in an episode of Ha ha, You Clowns. It was like they got her lines from a handful of fortune cookies.

I laughed when it kept repeating the same three or so flashbacks with Joel McHale. If you're going to keep showing how terrible he was to Carmy, film more than three scenes! After a while, it just seemed like Joel McHale ruined Carmy's life by yelling at him twice.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Next season plotline

https://twitter.com/arlyle323/status/1838618612359442598

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007
https://x.com/RedLReviews/status/1839890787397444020

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008


If The Bear ever decides they need to have actual comedians on to make sure they don’t lose their comedy awards slot, I hope they get Tim Robinson for an episode.

CatstropheWaitress
Nov 26, 2017

They would win me back over if they went full fledged 30 Rock comedy stylings for the last season. Leave Carmy the exact same, but have everyone devolve into sitcom characters complete with sound effects and mugs to the camera.

Yes, yes that would just be Kevin Can F**k Himself restaurant edition, but that series was fantastic and you should watch it if you haven't.

Jeroen
Jun 2, 2004
I have been accused of a stalker!

Professor Wayne posted:

I laughed when it kept repeating the same three or so flashbacks with Joel McHale. If you're going to keep showing how terrible he was to Carmy, film more than three scenes! After a while, it just seemed like Joel McHale ruined Carmy's life by yelling at him twice.

I was ready for him turning out to be an actually chill guy in the last episode, establishing that all of the abuse was mostly in Carmen's head or slightly exaggerated.

Turns out he's still a toxic shithead, but at least he acknowledged Carmen's talent and actually advised him to move on.

'I am the reason you drove Claire away' was too on the nose though. A lot of season 3 tried to be profound while being as subtle as a sack of hammers.

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

"Bunnies."
-Ben
I have a regular customer at my college dining hall job who tends to shout "Thank you, Chef!" as he's leaving in that needlessly serious way that I think he learned from this show. Or maybe from that "The Bear, but they only make PB&J sandwiches" sketch. Either way, I hope he doesn't continue doing that throughout life.

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ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016


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I was, in a way, the one who had to leave.

Jeroen posted:

I was ready for him turning out to be an actually chill guy in the last episode, establishing that all of the abuse was mostly in Carmen's head or slightly exaggerated.

That would've been interesting as a way of having Carmen's insane drive/insecurity making small comments into huge things.

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