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German defense minister: 1/3 of our population has not heard of deterrence or defense because they were born after 1989
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man these dudes loved the Cold War
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Jul 14, 2023 18:33
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Ukraine must be supported as long as it takes to defeat autocrats and criminals like Putin
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Nato rep: we are learning from Ukraine how our industries can adapt to be more innovative and how we can bring innovations into service more quickly
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German DM: the longer it takes (victory), the closer we get to elections
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The far right in Germany is against the war. Democratic parties are for the war.
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Ukraine parliament rep from Odessa: often NATO talks about the baltic sea, what about the black sea? Are you ready as NATO to make military convoys to prevent Putin from interrupting the grain trade?
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Jul 14, 2023 18:46
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bedpan posted:NATO rep is saying NATO exists to help countries spend their defense money as "wisely as possible" lmao
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German DM: we are speeding up. we don't need any more contracts
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Lunch break!
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bedpan posted:Finland defense minister says there needs to be more competition to drive prices down and increase innovation but there needs to be more cooperation and consolidation Lmao
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lol it doesn't really sound like NATO has a clear idea of why they're supporting Ukraine or how long. Each mention of Ukraine is slightly different.
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The only lever the defense ministers have is to give more money to the existing corporations but that isn't solving any problems now or in the future. They see there is a problem but have not way of conceptualizing anything different.
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spacemang_spliff posted:lol it doesn't really sound like NATO has a clear idea of why they're supporting Ukraine or how long. Each mention of Ukraine is slightly different. the only constant is that when a ukrainian asks "so when you gonna let us join nato" they all start sweating, tugging at their collars and go "uh, well you know. eventually"
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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:the only constant is that when a ukrainian asks "so when you gonna let us join nato" they all start sweating, tugging at their collars and go "uh, well you know. eventually"
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spacemang_spliff posted:lol it doesn't really sound like NATO has a clear idea of why they're supporting Ukraine or how long. Each mention of Ukraine is slightly different. they can't just say they're supporting ukraine to break russia
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bedpan posted:The only lever the defense ministers have is to give more money to the existing corporations but that isn't solving any problems now or in the future. They see there is a problem but have not way of conceptualizing anything different.
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Got about 3 hours left of content before I cross back over to where Hoot had started, btw.spacemang_spliff posted:lol it doesn't really sound like NATO has a clear idea of why they're supporting Ukraine or how long. Each mention of Ukraine is slightly different. the impression I get from the conversations thus far is that they want the Ukraine conflict to be over so that they can focus on China, the real enemy. Supporting Ukraine or admitting Ukraine into NATO doesn't get NATO any closer to refocusing on China but they are trapped and can't, at least not yet, dump Ukraine.
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The comments of the Czech president, so far the least positive on the topic of the war in Ukraine, as to negotiations seemingly beginning at the end of the year were interesting. He and others have mentioned to election pressures and the need to wrap up the conflict before the election season begins.
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bedpan posted:Got about 3 hours left of content before I cross back over to where Hoot had started, btw. You can post the minute mark and I can finish monday
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On the topic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5z5HUS4tmM&t=2344s
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Thanks for doing this bedpan and hoots, it's some amazing stuff to see. The sheer honesty.bedpan posted:If "our values" are not protected and promoted, then Chinese values will take hold bedpan posted:"If we allow Russia to prevail in this conflict then we would corrupt all the foundations on which our societies are built" YES... HA HA HA... YES!
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