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darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
'Steel is the Traditional 11 Year Anniversary Gift' Edition

What is Promotion / Relegation?

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Wikipedia posted:
In sports leagues, promotion and relegation is a process where teams are transferred between two divisions based on their performance for the completed season.
The best-ranked teams in the lower division are promoted to the division above, and the worst-ranked teams in the higher division are relegated to the division below.
Tier A (the Tier Jerkers) is a keeper league. Tier B (the Trail of Tiers) is a redraft league. Sucks to be in Tier B.

Buyin: $25
Website: ESPN
Tiers: 2
# of teams per tier: 12
# of teams promoted each year: 3 winners of a 6 team playoff
# of teams relegated each year: 3 losers of a 4 team playoff
Each tier has a separate, but equal, payout
Roster: QB 2 RB 2 WR TE FLEX 1 DL 2 LB 2 DB DFLEX 7 BN IR
Scoring: 0.5 PPR, otherwise ESPN Standard

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IDP Scoring
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Tackle Solo: 1
Tackle Assist: .5
Sack: 3
Interception: 4
Fumble Force: 3
Fumble Recovery: 3
Defensive Touchdown: 6
Safety: 6
Pass Defended: 1
Block Kick : 6
Tackles for Loss: 2
Payout
Each tier has a separate, but equal, payout

1st place: $115
2nd place: $50
3rd place: $30
Highest points total each week of regular season: $5 (x14)
Top Total Points (Weeks 1- 17): $20 - this prize can only be won by someone not finishing 1,2,3
Regular Winner Goal (TBD by Lock) - $10

Fee warchest - $5 (not to be paid out but to use to offset money transfering costs and other fees)

Keeper System
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A) Every keeper has a one round penalty.
B) Penalties that can't be enforced will transfer to the next highest keeper.
C) If a round is not available, a greater round will be used. If a greater round is not available, the first available lower round will be used and a penalty will be assessed for each round below the keeper's value.
D) All penalties must be enforced.
E) The following season, keeper value is based off the highest of the following: 1) The round drafted in the previous season or 2) their draft value last season prior to any transferred penalties.
F) Once a player hits free agency in any form, that player is no longer eligible to be kept the following season.
Example:

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2012 Draft:
1.) Drew Brees
2.) DeMarco Murray
4.) Percy Harvin
16.) Alfred Morris

2013:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
 	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (2nd rounder) 
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
3.) Harvin (4th rounder)
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
13.) Morris (16th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Brees
	-1 for keeping DeMarco

2014:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (1st rounder)
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
3.) Harvin (3rd rounder)
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Harvin
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
8.) Morris (13th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	-1 for keeping DeMarco
	-1 for keeping Brees
 	-1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)

2015: 
Can’t legally apply penalties to keep only Brees, DeMarco, Harvin, and Morris. 
One way to fix this is to let go one or more of the players. 
Another possibility is to keep 2014 20th round pick Johnny Manziel to absorb additional penalties.

2015:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (1st rounder)
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
3.) Harvin (2nd rounder)
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Harvin
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd round pick (Harvin)
4.) Morris (8th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	-1 for keeping DeMarco
	-1 for keeping Brees
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd round pick (Harvin)
17.) Manziel (20th rounder)
	-1 for keeping Manziel
	-1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	-1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd rounder (Harvin)
Supplemental Draft
Every year at least three teams in Tier A will be disbanded. The players comprising their rosters will be put into one large player pool. Teams from Tier B will be promoted to take their place, and they will be able to select keepers from the player pool in a supplemental draft.

Any players selected in the supplemental draft will retain the same value they would have if they were kept by their previous owner. For example, if a relegated team drafted Andrew Luck in the 14th round, drafting Andrew Luck in the supplemental draft would let the new owner keep him in the 13th round (barring any other penalties).

Owners will have an unlimited number of picks in the supplemental draft, but their keepers must abide by the same keepers rules as the rest of the league. Once every owner opts out of the draft, and the commissioner determines that their keepers adhere to the league's keeper rules, the supplemental draft is over.

The supplemental draft will be in order of their finish in Tier B. The draft will snake.

Draft Order
The first year the draft order will be randomized. After that, the two tiers will follow the following draft order:

Tier A
1: 1st place Tier B
2: 2nd place Tier B
3: 3rd place Tier B
4: 9th place Tier A
5: 8th place Tier A
etc, etc

Tier B
Random

The draft will snake. Every attempt will be made to accommodate a live draft.

Trades
Trades will now process instantly. I'll obviously reserve the right to veto extreme attempts at collusion / cheating. We've got a good group of people here, so I doubt it'll ever come to that.

Trade deadline is the last week of the season.

Trade Draft Picks At Your Own Risk
Future draft picks can be traded in Tier A. However, keep in mind that the draft picks of a relegated team are valueless.

Furthermore, if you trade your own future draft pick to a team, your rights to that draft pick are forfeited (even if that team is then later relegated).

Ties
During the regular season, matchups can result in a tie. It's not very likely because we're using fractional points, but I've seen it happen before.

Overall record determines playoff seeding. Ties will be broken in the following order:
- Points For (season)
- Points Against (season)
- Coin flip

During the playoffs, ties will be broken in the following order:
- Points For (season)
- Points Against (season)
- Coin flip

Relegation Cannot Be Avoided
If someone in Tier A decides not to continue on next season for whatever reason, their roster will join the player pool for the supplemental draft and an additional team from Tier B will be promoted to take their place.

Updated/Clarified rules for 2022

Increased fees/prizes
Keeper must be locked in before the supplemental draft
Reminder to send league dues via Friends and Family

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darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
History:

2022 GoonTier Champion: darkspider42
2021 GoonTier Champion: zeroordie
2020 GoonTier Champion: dewey7788
2019 GoonTier Champion: jabro
2018 GoonTier Champion: zeroordie
2017 GoonTier Champion: dewey7788
2016 GoonTier Champion: dewey7788
2015 GoonTier Champion: zeroordie
2014 GoonTier Champion: darkspider42
2013 GoonTier Champion: darkspider42

2022 thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4009532

Moving Up:
1. M. Night Shanahan
2. Godwin Is Dead
3. Herbert and Ernie's Boys
4. Ancient Allens


Moving Down:
GloboChem PitPat
I Like Beer
Failson Wentz

Supplemental Draft (8/24 updated):

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Jonathan Taylor Ind, RB	1+1
Breece Hall NYJ, RB	1+1
Ezekiel Elliott FA, RB	1+1
Najee Harris Pit, RB	1+1
Justin Herbert LAC, QB	1
CeeDee Lamb Dal, WR	1
A.J. Brown Phi, WR	1
Chris Godwin TB, WR	2
T.J. Watt Pit, DE	2
Antonio Gibson Wsh, RB	2
Roquan Smith Bal, LB	3
Gabe Davis Buf, WR	3
Lamar Jackson Bal, QB	4
James Cook Buf, RB	4
Myles Garrett Cle, DE	4
Amari Cooper Cle, WR	5
JuJu Smith-Schuster NE, WR	5
Kenneth Walker III Sea, RB	6
Chris Olave NO, WR	6
Tyler Lockett Sea, WR	6
Treylon Burks Ten, WR	6
Diontae Johnson Pit, WR	7
Jamaal Williams NO, RB	7
AJ Dillon GB, RB	7
Kareem Hunt Cle, RB	9
James Conner Ari, RB	10
Travis Kelce KC, TE	10
Garrett Wilson NYJ, WR	10
Russell Gage TB, WR	11
T.J. Hockenson Min, TE	12
Tee Higgins Cin, WR	12
Kirk Cousins Min, QB	13
James Robinson NE, RB	13
Kevin Byard Ten, S	13
Nyheim Hines Buf, RB	14
Brandon Aiyuk SF, WR	14
Aidan Hutchinson Det, DE	14
Jahan Dotson Wsh, WR	15
Devin Lloyd Jax, LB	16
C.J. Mosley NYJ, LB	16
Wan'Dale Robinson NYG, WR	18
Kenny Pickett Pit, QB	18
Romeo Doubs GB, WR	18
Malik Willis Ten, QB	19

darkspider42 fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Aug 25, 2023

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
Tier A 2023 Keeper Costs:

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the McRib™ is back	

Derrick Henry Ten, RB	1+1
Nick Chubb Cle, RB	2
Devin White TB, LB	3
Deebo Samuel SF, WR	4
Devin Singletary Hou, RB	8
Tony Pollard Dal, RB	9
Mike Williams LAC, WR	10
Courtland Sutton Den, WR	11
Myles Jack FA, LB	12
Kamren Curl Wsh, S	13
Deshaun Watson Cle, QB	16
DeForest Buckner Ind, DT	17
	
Don't Get Regulated	

Joe Mixon Cin, RB	1+1
George Kittle SF, TE	1
Josh Jacobs LV, RB	2
Michael Thomas NO, WR	3
George Pickens Pit, WR	5
Allen Lazard NYJ, WR	6
Leonard Fournette FA, RB	8
DJ Moore Chi, WR	10
Lavonte David TB, LB	11
Josh Allen Buf, QB	13
Khalil Mack LAC, DE	14
Cam Akers LAR, RB	15
	
JoeyBs Knees	

Christian McCaffrey SF, RB	1+1
Amon-Ra St. Brown Det, WR	1
Jerry Jeudy Den, WR	2
Michael Pittman Jr. Ind, WR	3
Aaron Rodgers GB, QB	4
Aaron Donald LAR, DT	5
Dawson Knox Buf, TE	6
DeAndre Hopkins Ari, WR	7
Foyesade Oluokun Jax, LB	9
Alvin Kamara NO, RB	12
Chase Claypool Chi, WR	14
Trevor Lawrence Jax, QB	15
Travis Etienne Jr. Jax, RB	16
	
Gridiron Chefs	

Javonte Williams Den, RB	1+1
Mike Evans TB, WR	1
Dameon Pierce Hou, RB	2
Jordyn Brooks Sea, LB	3
Bobby Wagner FA, LB	4
Adam Thielen FA, WR	5
Derwin James Jr. LAC, S	6
Patrick Mahomes KC, QB	8
Dallas Goedert Phi, TE	11
Brian Robinson Jr. Wsh, RB	12
Khalil Herbert Chi, RB	13
Isaiah Likely Bal, TE	14
Cooper Kupp LAR, WR	15
Christian Watson GB, WR	16
	
The New Guy	

Saquon Barkley NYG, RB	1+1
Terry McLaurin Wsh, WR	1
DeVonta Smith Phi, WR	4
De'Vondre Campbell GB, LB	5
Mark Andrews Bal, TE	6
Dak Prescott Dal, QB	9
Nick Bolton KC, LB	10
Brian Burns Car, DE	11
Tom Brady TB, QB	14
J.K. Dobbins Bal, RB	15
	
Hurts Immunity	

Dalvin Cook Min, RB	1+1
Tyreek Hill Mia, WR	1
D'Andre Swift Det, RB	2
Jaylen Waddle Mia, WR	3
Brandin Cooks Dal, WR	4
Logan Wilson Cin, LB	5
Cordarrelle Patterson Atl, RB	6
Jalen Hurts Phi, QB	7
Bobby Okereke NYG, LB	8
Maxx Crosby LV, DE	16
Raheem Mostert Mia, RB	19
	
Bosa Deez Nutz Dropped	

Keenan Allen LAC, WR	1+1
David Montgomery Det, RB	1
Ja'Marr Chase Cin, WR	2
Christian Kirk Jax, WR	7
Micah Parsons Dal, LB	8
Austin Ekeler LAC, RB	10
DK Metcalf Sea, WR	11
Tyler Boyd Cin, WR	13
Darren Waller NYG, TE	14
Marquise Brown Ari, WR	15
Damien Harris Buf, RB	16
	
Bound For The Floor	

Jonathan Taylor Ind, RB	1+1
Chris Godwin TB, WR	2
Roquan Smith Bal, LB	3
Lamar Jackson Bal, QB	4
Amari Cooper Cle, WR	5
Kenneth Walker III Sea, RB	6
James Conner Ari, RB	10
Russell Gage TB, WR	11
T.J. Hockenson Min, TE	12
Kirk Cousins Min, QB	13
Nyheim Hines Buf, RB	14
Devin Lloyd Jax, LB	16
Wan'Dale Robinson NYG, WR	18
	
Davante's Inferno	

Davante Adams LV, WR	1+1
Stefon Diggs Buf, WR	1
Rhamondre Stevenson NE, RB	3
Fred Warner SF, LB	5
Miles Sanders Car, RB	6
Tyler Allgeier Atl, RB	7
Justin Jefferson Min, WR	8
Michael Carter NYJ, RB	9
Aaron Jones GB, RB	11
Joe Burrow Cin, QB	12
Eric Kendricks LAC, LB	15
Rashod Bateman Bal, WR	18
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(please check to make sure I've matched up teams to usernames correctly)

Draft Order:

Tier A:
1. painofmind (confirmed) P
2. Gobias Ind (confirmed) P
3. Brownhat (confirmed) P
4. dewey7788 (confirmed) P
5. Anubis K P
6. DkJ (confirmed) K P
7. One1mike9 (confirmed) K P
8. Chen kenichi (confirmed) K
9. Hot Diggity! (confirmed) K P
10. Mikey Purp (confirmed) K
11. Master Stur (confirmed) K P
12. darkspider42 (confirmed) K P


Tier B (no particular Order):
1. Veritek83 (confirmed) P
2. SouthShoreSamurai (confirmed) P
3. Hiroprotagonist (confirmed) P
4. von Metternich (confirmed) P
5. 3 dong horse (confirmed)
6. barnold (confirmed)
7. Whoreson Welles (confirmed) P
8. Boywunda (confirmed) P
9. jabro (confirmed)
10. Worthleast (confirmed) P
11.
12.

darkspider42 fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Aug 25, 2023

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
Everyone please check in. I'll have the keeper list and supplemental draft up in the next day or so and 3 DONG HORSE has kindly offered up Doodle to figure out scheduling for the draft.

payment options:

Paypal: orders@randompunks.com

if you need an alternate payment please let me know.


Sleeper Link for Tier A draft

https://sleeper.com/i/0a77j2m385aA

darkspider42 fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Aug 4, 2023

Whoreson Welles
Mar 4, 2015

ON TO THE NEXT PAGE!
Reporting for mediocrity

Gobias Ind.
Apr 5, 2007

If your girlfriend says hey to me that's our girlfriend now idc
Hell yeah, back to join Tier A for the first time and promptly get kicked back down to B. I was Godwin is Dead last year.

Boywunda
Jun 25, 2003

Still kicking the can in Tier B

Pain of Mind
Jul 10, 2004
You are receiving this broadcast as a dream...We are transmitting from the year one nine... nine nine ...You are receiving this broadcast in order t
Back to see how Tier A goes. I was thinking I would have more time to figure out how the keeper rules worked.

barnold
Dec 16, 2011


what do u do when yuo're born to play fps? guess there's nothing left to do but play fps. boom headshot
back in for tier B you beautiful bastards

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

Re: payment - do you take Venmo?

I will post the doodle for Tier A once the supplemental draft is ongoing.

:siren: In the mean time, since Tier B can draft whenever, here is ours: https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/bY5n6V0b :siren:

The date range is Aug 20 - Sep 6. Assumes a 3 hour draft maximum. Mark times you can make. Use your SA user name please (makes it easier to track stragglers down). Also be aware of the time zone. We will go with the most commonly chosen date/time so if your schedule sucks, tough poo poo!

I shotgunned them out but I can always edit it if someone has a good suggestion.

Edit: for privacy purposes, only I will be able to see submissions so don't sweat it if you use a personal email. I promise I won't sell it.

3 DONG HORSE fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Jul 31, 2023

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon


Tier b yada yada yada

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
I'm back baby

Worthleast
Nov 25, 2012

Possibly the only speedboat jumps I've planned

Back for B.

One1mike9
Aug 12, 2021
Confirming for Tier A

SouthShoreSamurai
Apr 28, 2009

It is a tale,
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.


Fun Shoe
I'm I Like Beer. After a weird and disappointing season last year, I'm ready to make my comeback in Tier B.

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007
hey i can post again. anyhow i PMed darkspider already but i'm here for my triumphant return to tier b (where I belong :hai:)

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
Payment sent

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007
sent payment. can someone kindly link the tier b league? when i got promoted last season i updated my bookmark and now can't figure out how to get back to it

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

Tier B draft scheduler: https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/bY5n6V0b

Tier B ESPN league: https://fantasy.espn.com/football/league?leagueId=259386

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007
:cheers:

e: lol I don't have permission to view it, i guess darkspider or whomever still has to move over promoted/relegated teams

Brownhat
Jan 25, 2012

One cannot be a good person and enforce unjust laws.


Here to fart around tier B one more. Will send payment later today.

Gobias Ind.
Apr 5, 2007

If your girlfriend says hey to me that's our girlfriend now idc
Payment sent

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

darkspider42 posted:

Everyone please check in. I'll have the keeper list and supplemental draft up in the next day or so and 3 DONG HORSE has kindly offered up Doodle to figure out scheduling for the draft.

payment options:

Paypal: orders@randompunks.com

if you need an alternate payment please let me know.


Sleeper Link for Tier A draft

Watch this space

Do you have a Venmo?

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

3 DONG HORSE posted:

Do you have a Venmo?

Yup, @Jospeh-Carey (last 4809)

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

HiroProtagonist posted:

:cheers:

e: lol I don't have permission to view it, i guess darkspider or whomever still has to move over promoted/relegated teams

Yeah, I need to move the people up/down in ESPN. Should be done in next day or so.

Gobias Ind.
Apr 5, 2007

If your girlfriend says hey to me that's our girlfriend now idc

darkspider42 posted:

Yup, @Jospeh-Carey (last 4809)

Think this should probably say Joseph?

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

Gobias Ind. posted:

Think this should probably say Joseph?

darkspider, I'll send when ya confirm the spelling. Ready to goo

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

Gobias Ind. posted:

Think this should probably say Joseph?

I misspelled it when I set it up so forever Jospeh

dkj
Feb 18, 2009

Paid via PayPal

Master Stur
Jun 13, 2008

chasin' tail
I'm back in

von Metternich
May 7, 2007
Why the hell not?
Sure, why not one more year in tier B.

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
kinda weird that Tier B peeps check in faster than Tier A. Masochists much?

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
Tier A Draft:

https://sleeper.com/i/0a77j2m385aA

Feel free to start trickling in

dewey7788
Oct 10, 2004

Don't Toews me bro!
Payment sent and confirming I'm back for some Tier A goonery!

Whoreson Welles
Mar 4, 2015

ON TO THE NEXT PAGE!
Tier B payment sent. Let’s rock n roll.

SouthShoreSamurai
Apr 28, 2009

It is a tale,
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.


Fun Shoe
Payment sent for Tier B.

Paying for my own relegation. What has life come to.

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
Keeper costs have been posted along with the supplemental draft pool

Please have your keepers in by end of day next Sunday, August 13 so we can start the sup draft after that.

Anyone who hasn't checked in please do so ASAP.

Worthleast
Nov 25, 2012

Possibly the only speedboat jumps I've planned

I’ve sent payment for Tier B.

Veritek83
Jul 7, 2008

The Irish can't drink. What you always have to remember with the Irish is they get mean. Virtually every Irish I've known gets mean when he drinks.

darkspider42 posted:

Keeper costs have been posted along with the supplemental draft pool

Please have your keepers in by end of day next Sunday, August 13 so we can start the sup draft after that.

Anyone who hasn't checked in please do so ASAP.

Back in for tier B- travelling the next two days, will send payment & join on ESPN as soon as I can

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Boywunda
Jun 25, 2003

Payment sent for Tier B

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