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I finally finished another squad of grots
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:I am so stoked for the shadow legion detachment. there are about a dozen different things i wanna try. when you don’t need belakors no shoot aura anymore you can turn it into rr1s to hit and he gets dark pact and dev wounds now so you can just fish for sustains. that’s like 10th on the list of things im looking forward to but still cool. pink horrors get -1 to hit all the time which will make them pretty nightmarish to deal with. Guos can scout up so you can infiltrate out some (cheaper) nurglings and then scout your guo snugly behind em to give em t4 ramshackle. beasts of nurgle scout now! for 65 pts you get that stat line and an extra OC! it’s insane! Belakor can turn his Battleshock aura and go from 1 wound remaining to full with a series of lucky battleshock rolls lol
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Mar 13, 2025 23:36
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:The army books used to come with that, then about 10 years ago or so they removed them and starting selling them as $10 digital pdfs. They didn't get put back in when that failed. Last I checked, which was admittedly a 3rd edition book, but the AoS battletomes at least has some painting suggestions on how to do various parts of models. Also those painting guides were definitely not the same thing you could find in the codexes, because they were far more elaborate. I think some might've even be bespoke apps because some also offered 360 views of models. They're handy, lots of good alternate options tucked at the end of each unit step. Then they also published a couple of books for Ultramarines, Tau, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Tyranids and Dark Eldar. As well as a couple of epubs with various basic guides. Although these days they're only available via  .
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Mar 13, 2025 23:50
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Their YouTube channel has tutorials for most armies, no?
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Mar 14, 2025 00:08
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I've lost the clear canopy for a storm eagle. Any way to get one of these in another kit or am I sol and going to have to make one out of card?
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Mar 14, 2025 00:14
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Muir posted:Their YouTube channel has tutorials for most armies, no? By this point in time they've covered most them, sometimes multiple times as they've done updated videos for newer editions. So if you want to paint, let's say an ultramarine, you have like 3-4 different videos to pick from. JBP posted:I've lost the clear canopy for a storm eagle. Any way to get one of these in another kit or am I sol and going to have to make one out of card? Check ebay? Still have no idea if there's any decent US centric bits shops or not.
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Mar 14, 2025 00:24
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Cooked Auto posted:By this point in time they've covered most them, sometimes multiple times as they've done updated videos for newer editions. https://www.ebay.com/str/blackdaggergames is my go-to, they've taken their listings down during vacation until 3/18 but they have a ton of bits and have always been excellent to deal with over the years.
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Mar 14, 2025 00:34
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someone made a 1990's style childrens playset based off of Boltgun it's pretty neat! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhC_GLokgms
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Mar 14, 2025 01:23
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:I am so stoked for the shadow legion detachment. there are about a dozen different things i wanna try. when you don’t need belakors no shoot aura anymore you can turn it into rr1s to hit and he gets dark pact and dev wounds now so you can just fish for sustains. that’s like 10th on the list of things im looking forward to but still cool. pink horrors get -1 to hit all the time which will make them pretty nightmarish to deal with. Guos can scout up so you can infiltrate out some (cheaper) nurglings and then scout your guo snugly behind em to give em t4 ramshackle. beasts of nurgle scout now! for 65 pts you get that stat line and an extra OC! it’s insane! I am really excited about the detachment as well. Finally I get to use Belekor! I love the model and its been sitting there unpainted for awhile. Now it's time to start...
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Mar 14, 2025 01:27
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3 Action Economist posted:Obviously the best solution is to just buy three of every unit. Then you'll always have the best meta! And every possible combination of monopose parts!
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Mar 14, 2025 03:57
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Me airbrushing on some pre shades and checking out my sick night lords chaos space marines - haha hell yeah these own this owns Me using a brush to do trim for all of twenty seconds - oh my God what the gently caress
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Mar 14, 2025 09:09
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I went with the box art scheme tau like an idiot and i refuse to buy an airbrush so i'm in rattlecan hell, and i've caught the awful brain disease called "wanting to get better at painting" so I just keep looking between my old models and a tub of biostrip20 like bilbo looking at the ring in fellowship
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Mar 14, 2025 12:39
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JBP posted:Me airbrushing on some pre shades and checking out my sick night lords chaos space marines - haha hell yeah these own this owns My experience painting a single Black Legion dude was like this. It took two passes of Liberator Gold over black with washes and highlights over the course of an evening and a half to get that trim right. Very thankful to hear that Emperor's Children will have less trim to deal with.
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Mar 14, 2025 12:49
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JBP posted:Me airbrushing on some pre shades and checking out my sick night lords chaos space marines - haha hell yeah these own this owns IMO trim heavily depends on the paint you're using to do it. I actually enjoy the trim with my Proacryl metallics. Vallejo Metal Color and its runny garbage that takes 3 coats for a proper finish? Nope. Never again.
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Mar 14, 2025 12:52
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Cooked Auto posted:Last I checked, which was admittedly a 3rd edition book, but the AoS battletomes at least has some painting suggestions on how to do various parts of models.
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Mar 14, 2025 14:37
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Nessus posted:I can't go check right now but I know there was painting guidance in the 10e admech codex. There was in the Tau codex, too, but it's pretty barebones, just a page or two, and it only talks about painting the Combat Patrol in the color scheme on the box. Even the app is a huge letdown, you can search for a model but there's only a single color scheme for each one, and you can't change the colors whatsoever, so if you don't want to paint that particular scheme then it's no use whatsoever. I remember poking at it quite a bit when I first downloaded it because I was SURE I was just missing it, like cmon, you really can't change the colors? But nope!
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Mar 14, 2025 17:03
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Phenotype posted:There was in the Tau codex, too, but it's pretty barebones, just a page or two, and it only talks about painting the Combat Patrol in the color scheme on the box. Even the app is a huge letdown, you can search for a model but there's only a single color scheme for each one, and you can't change the colors whatsoever, so if you don't want to paint that particular scheme then it's no use whatsoever. I remember poking at it quite a bit when I first downloaded it because I was SURE I was just missing it, like cmon, you really can't change the colors? But nope!
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Mar 14, 2025 17:12
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These days they've expanded the categories in the apps, there's for instance five different septs listed under tau. But beyond the two main ones you're only going to see one example model and then have to figure out the rest yourself. But I'm pretty sure there are painting apps that let you swap around colors, but that function also tends to be paywalled. The app really isn't going to do the legwork for you, beyond offering some basic steps for a tabletop quality model and ways how to paint various combinations that were also previously listed on the store page. Unlike its predecessor this app does get semi-regular updates. Like I had no idea they had added a bunch of Tome Keeper marines under painting suggestions that I'm pretty sure are all based around kitbashes. Cooked Auto fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Mar 14, 2025 |
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Mar 14, 2025 17:20
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I dunno I "learned" to paint from those printed publications in the 90s and aughts and I never even knew about thinning my paint until YouTube. The old books leaned way too hard on being approachable for kids, like I clearly recall them saying you could paint the model with white paint as an alternative to priming and, because they weren't really honest with the difference in the results, I did that for years. I never had the dedicated painting book so I'm talking about the booklets that came with the starter boxes and the paint sets. No one in my hobby group could paint with a drat, if we'd had just one older player to stop us from making extremely fundamental errors it would have been a world of difference. By my twenties I was priming my orks and had good brush control but I still, still didn't know you had to thin paint, and I'd heard of a wet palate but didn't understand how you could possibly have a pan of water you'd put your paints into. I guess my point is that even when they had them, they sucked.
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Mar 14, 2025 17:50
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I have the old 3rd ed advertising booklet on my shelf, came with a Space Marine and Bretonnian Peasant Archer painting guides. Pretty sure at least one of them started with a white primer.
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Mar 14, 2025 17:54
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A lot of the old codex painting guides were basecoat -> washes -> eavy metal quality paintjob  without really telling you anything about the steps or techniques. THIN YOUR PAINTS is such a meme because it just was not ever given out as advice before widespread internet discussion on painting, so every kid who got minis would read the painting guide and slap paints on unprimed plastic straight from the bottle. It's certainly how I was for a long time.
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Mar 14, 2025 17:55
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ro5s posted:A lot of the old codex painting guides were basecoat -> washes -> eavy metal quality paintjob Yeah, the Space Wolves painting guide in the 2nd edition Codex is infamously wrong, there are later interviews with painters explaining how they actually did it.
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Mar 14, 2025 19:09
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Cooked Auto posted:The app really isn't going to do the legwork for you, beyond offering some basic steps for a tabletop quality model and ways how to paint various combinations that were also previously listed on the store page. I don't know, I still find the citadel paint app handy. Still gets regular updates on new models, has direct links GW paint tutorial channels and let's you inventory your paints and bookmark schemes you like for current projects. And breaks it down to table ready and parade ready steps.
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Mar 14, 2025 20:42
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Yeah, it's good as a reference. But some of those steps can be weird, there's at least a couple of ones that have mismatches between the steps and the example pictures. And the way they refuse to say highlights can throw you off if you don't know their painting system. Regardless I still check it a whole bunch of various painting projects. Not exactly leaning on it these days but its great for checking out how certain things are painted by the Citadel team. Muir posted:Yeah, the Space Wolves painting guide in the 2nd edition Codex is infamously wrong, there are later interviews with painters explaining how they actually did it. Pretty sure Heavy Metal painters have admitted to using non-gw paints for some stuff, I know at least their 30k Alpha Legions were, back in the day, done partially with non-GW paints.
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Mar 14, 2025 20:47
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Cooked Auto posted:Pretty sure Heavy Metal painters have admitted to using non-gw paints for some stuff, I know at least their 30k Alpha Legions were, back in the day, done partially with non-GW paints. Thousand Sons as well, the iconic candy red for 30k is Tamiya. Same reason as AL were.
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Mar 14, 2025 20:57
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Ghost Hand posted:
Come and play Necromunda with us, you’d fit right in!  That’s my underhive table, it’s uuuh, all terrain!
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Mar 14, 2025 21:28
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I love poo poo like that bc it looks just like my workplace but destroyed.
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Mar 14, 2025 22:20
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SkyeAuroline posted:Thousand Sons as well, the iconic candy red for 30k is Tamiya. Same reason as AL were. The Iron Hands FW paint scheme also used Tamiya to achieve a glossy, oiled metal look
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Mar 14, 2025 22:30
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spent most of today painting a hammerhead and i hate that model. it was a struggle getting it to somewhat match my much cooler looking piranha and it has way less panels and bits to paint different. just a big swooping shoe. hate it with my life. thankfully i get to paint up my devilfish next and 
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Mar 14, 2025 23:03
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Improbable Lobster posted:The Iron Hands FW paint scheme also used Tamiya to achieve a glossy, oiled metal look there used to be a gloss nuln oil. but yeah i could believe that
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Mar 15, 2025 00:55
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Should be said that was before they had gloss washes, or contrast paints to do candy coating with. This was around 1st edition of 30k.
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Mar 15, 2025 01:00
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Minecraft Holmes posted:there used to be a gloss nuln oil. but yeah i could believe that And it was the single greatest paint in the Citadel range (I am not exaggerating, I sincerely believe this), and I still haven't found an adequate substitute. I treasure my last remaining pot dearly.
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Mar 15, 2025 01:00
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I remember distinctly one of the former Eavy Metal painters from back when the Ultras first moved to the deeper blue/gold scheme mentioned that they thinned the blues used on the armour colour with blue artist ink instead of water to get that super saturated and slightly satin look, and used the same technique on most other studio marines, which was a big part of why replicating their schemes based on tutorials back then was completely impossible.
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Mar 15, 2025 01:39
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I should flip through my old WD issues from around issue 300 and look over their painting guides there, from my recollections they weren't the most explanatory ones at the best of times. Would've made for an interesting goonhammer article if you have the research base for it, just look at how GW's painting guides have changed over the years.
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Mar 15, 2025 01:50
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SkyeAuroline posted:IMO trim heavily depends on the paint you're using to do it. I actually enjoy the trim with my Proacryl metallics. Vallejo Metal Color and its runny garbage that takes 3 coats for a proper finish? Nope. Never again. Thanks for the recommendation, I will grab their gold and give it a go. The vallejo gold I have sucks and I always hated gw metallics. I was actually going to grab a metal color gold (the airbrush one), since the burnt metal and gunmetal paints are excellent through the airbrush or to brush on. Is there a difference with the gold? I just assumed it would be good.
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Mar 15, 2025 02:33
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JBP posted:Thanks for the recommendation, I will grab their gold and give it a go. The vallejo gold I have sucks and I always hated gw metallics. Entirely imo: The airbrush vmc gold is very pale, it's not an interesting colour, it needs something mixed with it (like the airbrush vmc copper) to look good, it's too much effort/too variable results to bother using contrast or shades on it to liven it up itself.
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I need to get a new pot of Liberator gold at some point, the VMC Old Gold is okay but not great and Balthasar Gold is essentially phased out these days. And might be a smidge too dark as well for bright gold. Thankfully I don't paint gold that often so the latter usually works anyway.
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Mar 15, 2025 03:07
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Cooked Auto posted:I need to get a new pot of Liberator gold at some point, the VMC Old Gold is okay but not great and Balthasar Gold is essentially phased out these days. And might be a smidge too dark as well for bright gold.
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JBP posted:Thanks for the recommendation, I will grab their gold and give it a go. The vallejo gold I have sucks and I always hated gw metallics. Eediot Jedi posted:Entirely imo: The airbrush vmc gold is very pale, it's not an interesting colour, it needs something mixed with it (like the airbrush vmc copper) to look good, it's too much effort/too variable results to bother using contrast or shades on it to liven it up itself. IMO the colour of the 77.725 Gold is fine, it's just that sort of pale greenish tone lends itself to being a brass highlight sort of thing more often. It's got slightly worse coverage than the best of that series (use that 77.707 Chrome regularly, great stuff) so I'd basecoat with another metallic or a brown depending on what it was for, but it's definitely not garbage if you want the colour that it is. Further evidence towards a long-running "SkyeAuroline is cursed by some force to have their paints go wrong" theory tbh.
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Minecraft Holmes posted:there used to be a gloss nuln oil. but yeah i could believe that I should have specified that it used a Tamiya green and yellow to achieve that look
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