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I want to fight but only with a consenting partner.
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Sep 15, 2023 19:09
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Yeah I feel the need to clarify before I punch Cubical so hard that his soul comes a little bit loose. Seems like we want max duels to try and eliminate the scum nk.
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Sep 15, 2023 19:22
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mycelia posted:I also don't know anything, since this is a slightly simpler game than Umineko and Stalker I'm going to try(???) to do more theory crafting. No promises tho. Theory crafting about what? Also hi I don't think we've played together before unless you're a rename.
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Sep 15, 2023 19:25
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Maugrim posted:I think it makes sense to ##refuse since there are no mechanical consequences for just one dishonour. I will accept the next one though if one comes, to try and eliminate that dishonour ] Seems like an openly suboptimal strat? In theory here you know you're town, you don't know if wolo is town. Therefore you duel and win to mechanical advantage. If I don't get it here please correct me, otherwise I'll throw down.
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Sep 15, 2023 19:29
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wologar posted:Or maybe... you want that dishonor 🦂 oh wow that would be clever design, I like it
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Sep 15, 2023 19:30
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mycelia posted:Hello! I'm very new! I've played in exactly two games here on SA (and my last forum based games were on a Pokemon fansite when I was 13, so, unlikely. I mean it as in "reading everyone's posts and maybe making a cool spreadsheet to figure out who's what", but idk if that's actually the right word for that. That might just be 'rolefishing' but spreadsheets are cool so more power to you
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Sep 15, 2023 19:33
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Maugrim posted:That is interesting! I'm not scorpion clan though. That is exactly what someone from the scorpion clan would say, you have to understand
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Sep 15, 2023 19:36
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I guess I'm obligated to mention that pmom does this every game.
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Sep 15, 2023 20:18
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Anyone want some fight before turbo? I've got some extra fight here and I'm not sure what to do with it.
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Sep 15, 2023 20:47
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CubicalSucrose posted:I keep saying I want to fight you. It just feels less sporting and with people hesitating I think like there are better targets but ##challenge cubicalsucrose no one said enlightenment would be easy, reach heaven through violence.
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Sep 15, 2023 21:13
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who doesn't love a healthy bout of horseplay?
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Sep 15, 2023 21:21
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PlasticAutomaton posted:..Also I feel like PMom's claim and that bandwagon is turbo bait and scum's already riding it. It seems virtually certain that is a scum or two in that group of six yeah, but I dunno how much that truly helps. Hard for me to parse the newbie votes from the scummy votes.
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Sep 15, 2023 21:32
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mess with the pony and you get the horn
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Sep 15, 2023 23:08
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Punkreas posted:If you're going to do a substance-less glove slap in a game like this at least do it right! i'm inclined to agree with plastic, i'll back it up in the ring if you want to do the honors.
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Sep 16, 2023 06:31
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I did forget that I was playing a game of Mafia but I also was under the impression that you could only issue one challenge a day, is that wrong?
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Sep 17, 2023 23:32
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Okay cool, so I couldn't have chosen to punch Punkreas. Punchkreas. Dueling seems to be the best chance for town to control the game, there are more town than scum so we should be able to overwhelm them by virtue of action economy. Having an ability that circumvents the dueling structure seems like a necessary boon for scum. Additionally the way Punk calls out that scum would be duel shy shows that he seemingly understands this and that makes the whole show seem that much more fake. ##vote punk
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Sep 17, 2023 23:55
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Tired Moritz posted:Okay, is there a towny reason why we're even doing all these duels if you beat scum in a duel they can't do a night action.
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Sep 18, 2023 04:41
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Tired Moritz posted:but wouldnt it be high likely that scum have some kind of ability to maneuver over that? its not like our wounds are being publically announced? whats stopping scum from 1v1 each other and lying about getting wounds if there's a scum ability that says 'you still get to do a night action even after losing a duel' i would be surprised, i guess.
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Sep 18, 2023 04:58
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We're 7 hours out and -5 from a consensus with 4 people not voting yet. Pretty typical for a weekend but we should probably do something. Punk makes sense to me, Pmom doesn't. If there's a third option I'm not aware of it.
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Sep 18, 2023 15:21
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:No idea. Just realized I don't understand this. Why?
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Sep 18, 2023 15:22
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If you haven't issued a challenge I encourage you to do so, it's fun and informative.
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Sep 18, 2023 15:24
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:If someone with an investigative or protective role gets wounded and roleblocked, we're entering N1 with an unnecessary disadvantage. If a scum was wounded and roleblocked we'd be entering night one with an advantage. There are more town than there are scum. Not using our duels feels like the equivalent of not voting, it's a tool at our disposal.
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Sep 18, 2023 17:01
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Tired Moritz posted:Scum should be smart enough to say no Right but what reason do they have to decline? That's still useful information. AFancyQuestionMark posted:Strong disagree on all of those I have a feeling I'm barking up the wrong tree but what's your reasoning for disagreeing? There are more town than scum, everyone has a duel, action economy dictates that a lost scum action has a much greater value than a lost town action. Those all seem like facts to me so I'm curious about the disconnect.
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Sep 18, 2023 17:38
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JosefStalinator posted:This is a scum post imo The sole focus on mechanics with zero reads is bad yes, but I think half the thread is guilty on that point.
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Sep 18, 2023 18:27
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Pinterest Mom posted:yeah punk seems like he's wrong but i just don't buy "get attention on yourself by wounding someone for kicks" as scum behaviour Agreed on rwc there, but then rwc ultimately votes Punk so it feels less Relevant Although I guess... Rhymes With Clue posted:##vote Punkreas I'm pretty confused how rwc gets there? And wait why am I on your list here?
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Sep 18, 2023 19:35
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something something Pmom vote stalling out, something something Punk vote stalling out. You get the idea, we'll punch it up in post.
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Sep 18, 2023 20:21
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Punkreas posted:I mean, it's fine if I'm acting like Scum but I feel like most of the votes on me are "I'm mostly convinced on Punk!" and... that's it - like, c'mon, if I'm going to at least learn from the games you gotta give me something! A lot has happened, any updates on your scum reads? I'm trying not to be overly influenced by the setup angle here because there's going to be a contingent that disagrees with it no matter what. However that's what most of your content is sort of based around. Are you still thinking PA for scum? Others have voted you since, do any of those posters stand out to you?
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Sep 18, 2023 20:32
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Maugrim posted:Anyone else pinged by this post Yeah on a similar level to fancy questions where it's hard to process because it's such a nonanswer nothing. The too scummy to be scum thing is a good point, Punk is a wildcard.
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Sep 18, 2023 20:38
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Oh we have like an hour left. Someone do a fight!
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Sep 18, 2023 20:38
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Punkreas posted:
Citation needed??
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Sep 18, 2023 20:48
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Zoya posted:in the interest of this not being 1000 miles long, i'll only be actually quoting the most important bits I'm quoting this because I read the whole thing and I don't understand what the core argument is for Pmom as scum. What's the point of relitigating the Punk vote? I understand Pmom was antagonistic but that's just their vibe. You're making a larger meta argument for Punk so I can make one for Pmom.
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Sep 19, 2023 20:11
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Zoya posted:i'm summarizing the actions and interactions around the two vote leaders in D1, since that is where we'll find any information to digest in light of punk's flip okay that makes more sense, sorry still catching up. i guess my issue is that the core premise of 'pmom as town decides to helpfully contribute in order to stave off their imminent demise and right the course' doesn't exactly match up with my experience of the pinterest mother. i appreciate that this tracks from your side but my concern is that there's a lot of votes that are just: wologar posted:##vote PMom CubicalSucrose posted:Also mycelia posted:Ohhh. Okay. Thank you Zoya (genuinely, I feel like I learned something). And sorry Punk "okay let's kill the next person." in fact reading wolo's post history i'd probably prefer them for a vote. the way wolo was on both punk and pmom yesterday, especially with their behavior around deadline, makes me think they were motivated more by appearances than genuine interest in seeing a particular candidate flip.
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Sep 19, 2023 20:26
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i finally had some time tonight before bed to go over this thread and i have no idea what's going on anymore.
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Sep 20, 2023 05:05
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anything less ominous to say about it?
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Sep 20, 2023 06:03
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CubicalSucrose posted:Also I immediately claimed the killstop, making it so that no (potential? other?) protective town roles needed to claim today. Agreed, but at the same time the amount of ~night action Mafia~ in the air makes me a little leery of 100% trusting anything right now. I don't see you as a good vote. Pmom is most likely inevitable but I don't agree with the premise. Plus I'd feel real goofy if Pmom flipped town. CirclMastr posted:##vote PMom This vote is one of several real suspicious ballots cast, no accountability or visible thought process, but I guess we'll revisit that after the flip. Wolo is where my gut is at ##vote wolofar
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Sep 20, 2023 16:31
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CubicalSucrose posted:Just reread Wol. Stayed on PMom, nothing much else. The Maug duel is weak. Yeah I'd vote there I guess but not super interested in it. i don't disagree with that assessment but it reads stronger to me than 'pmom should be helpful if they're town.' i'm assuming the pin mom is just checked out and waiting to die. it's kind of convenient in a way because either pmom flips scum or pmom flips town and there's a shortlist of who to vote next. really hard to put together a *good* case on wolo because their post history is out of context one-liners. not saying they don't contribute by any means, just that it's very hard to navigate past interactions. there are some notes for time that mostly help aid my understanding of when things happened. wologar posted:That's even worse! 13:04 sept 17 swaps from pmom to punk here wologar posted:Not if you used it to murder scum. Why are you worried of how bad it'd look? 13:39 sept 18 in response to punk wologar posted:##unvote 14:08 sept 18 wologar posted:I want more people to commit. wologar posted:This doesn't help, tho! wologar posted:First reads best reads. the only point where i can see wolo switching from punkreas to pmom in their mind is here in response to pmom's "lol" wologar posted:This doesn't help, tho! and then ultimately wolo falls off the leading vote for the day. as someone who was already okay with lunching punk, why switch? the only answer that makes sense to me here is that wolo is scum and didn't want to get caught on a town flip. something about their voting pattern is weird to me, it's disconnected from the aura of nonchalance that wolo projects otherwise, it feels managed.
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wologar posted:Because I was no longer okay with lunching Punk. I became aware that a large part of my "Punk is a good execution" mindset was due to me being salty about his play in a different game. I guess my main follow-up question is how I would have known that? Not a rhetorical, is there a post I missed?
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Sep 20, 2023 17:57
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JosefStalinator posted:So pmom I'm curious - you claimed vanilla town. You have ki? Do you have absolutely no mechanics at all? Want to share some flavor, at least? Pmom claims vanilla in every game and I doubt pin is actually vanilla. This is why I have a hard time trusting this vote. Not throwing undue shade as the Pinterest Mommy has not really tried to bridge the gap, it just feels like a meta misunderstanding that got way out of hand.
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Pinterest Mom posted:i think you should perhaps try to take "i claim vanilla town every game" and "this is a role madness game" to its logical conclusion. it's only half a step of reasoning, i know you can get there. alright maybe I've been overthinking this and I was wrong.
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