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SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.
I'm in if I can be a Shujenga!

(I think that's what the wizards were called, over a decade since I played the TTRPG.)

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SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

wologar posted:

Ok, I read it. While Emperor Hentai XXXIX sits leisurely on the Heavenly Throne, we the mounted steppe warriors put our lives on the line to defend the realm from foreigners beyond the Great Wall.

Rokugan's world is a hodgepodge of Eastern Asian stuff.



Did someone say Great Wall???

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

AFancyQuestionMark posted:

Might as well try my luck in my third ever mafia game. Hopefully I'll actually make it to the end this time and not get murdered N1.

If I role scum I'll do my best to convince the rest of the team to kill you on D2 instead.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.
##challenge: Snooze

She knows why.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.
[quote="SporkChan" post="534608236"]
##challenge: Snooze

She knows why.
[quote]

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

Tired Moritz posted:

Everyone vote off Cube right now!!!!

I assume this is related to your duel, but you didn't even vote him!

However his unbroken string of duel victories makes me a little wary of his duel prowess, and something feels slightly off.

##vote Cube

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

Tired Moritz posted:

because they beat me and thats mean ;-;

i can confirm i am woundless

(guys i wont be vague if i actually got a result)

Except that it was already revealed that sometimes duels can give you insight into your opponent.

CubicalSucrose posted:

Part of my thing makes it so I know (+/- 1) JS and Somber's ki status.

So I thought you could easily have had a cop result but only if you lose the duel or something similar. I know it's a long weekend and all for posting, but feels to me like we are out of joke-phase and I didn't think you were just crying about the duel result.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

CubicalSucrose posted:

I have a win, a tie, and a win. I wouldn't call that an unbroken string of duel victories.

Fair, I didn't look back thru all your results for sure, but just went off of this:

CubicalSucrose posted:

Also I haven't lost a fight yet today so it'd probably also be good to get any night actions one of us have cancelled.

And I know you aren't wounding anyone, but you've effectively roleblocked 3 people already on D1, as well as gathering info about their ki pools, and likely depleting their ki somewhat. I feel like you're more gung-ho about pushing duels than I would expect from the methodical town-Cube.

TMor may have been joking, but my vote stands. Cube is pinging me.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

SporkChan posted:

Fair, I didn't look back thru all your results for sure, but just went off of this:

And I know you aren't wounding anyone, but you've effectively roleblocked 3 people already on D1, as well as gathering info about their ki pools, and likely depleting their ki somewhat. I feel like you're more gung-ho about pushing duels than I would expect from the methodical town-Cube.

TMor may have been joking, but my vote stands. Cube is pinging me.

Oh wait, you tied on one of the duels. So you've only roleblocked 2 people.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.
Zoya, do you have anything to go on other than the already mentioned post that makes you so so so certain Pmom is scum? Because that's all I have seen you bring up, and it's nonsense.

I'd have been somewhat okay with you trying to push the turbo this late because it was funny to you, but you insisting that one post early on in jokephase means that Pmom must be scum is something else.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

Zoya posted:

it's because she's given us absolutely zero reasons to unvote since then. not a halfclaim, not a fullclaim, not a series of vaguely threatening hand gestures, not even a duel! just some gobbledygook about having played mafia for 30 or 40 years

The reasons to unvote PMom is because other people look much scummier? Like, say, you complaining about someone not claiming during an extended D1.

##vote Zoya

Punk would also be an option. And I'm still wary of Cube, but that's fading a bit.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

Somberbrero posted:

I did forget that I was playing a game of Mafia but I also was under the impression that you could only issue one challenge a day, is that wrong?

You are correct.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

Zoya posted:

scumbud spotted, official alert folks, scumbud spotted

Oh no, I've told someone their D1 case is bad and they are scum for making it, and then they called me scum back!

Whatever shall I do?!?

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

Pinterest Mom posted:

unless you get all the scum, they still get to do the nk right

Except whoever is the last scum who still has night actions will just not challenge or accept duels.

If we're trying some strategy to roleblock everyone then it would be obvious someone is refusing to participate, but:

1.) We clearly didn't do that.
2.) That would also lead to a lot of wounds, which I suspect would benefit scum.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.
What is going on with this game?

Are a bunch of you in masonries and I'm just left in the cold?

There are so many townreads for a D1.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.
##vote Punk

Of the two vote leaders Punk looks worse to me than PMom. Punk could have had benign reasons to get his power revealed early, but I don't like how he went about it. The case for Pmom has been weak from the start.

I'd still rather Zoya, but I don't want to push a swerve here in the last hour.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

Zoya posted:

"i'm at -1 and am making zero effort to convince anyone i'm innocent because the original case against me was weak" is not the bulletproof defense you think it is

It really is. And you constantly harping on this isn't the good look you think it is.

Maugrim posted:

My reasoning is mycelia made a scummy post and in it they voted Punk over you

But I am ok to switch to Punk if nobody is hammering
This is at least something, but even this is 'Player 1 looks scummy. They didn't vote Player 2, therefore I must vote Player 2.' I'll admit that this close to hammer you can't swing onto Player 1 (mycelia) but still.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.
Clearly I was wong about Punk. As penance I will accept the first challenger to a duel.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.
Zoya, why is something Punk does every game fine and good, but something PMom does every game scummy and bad?

The entire basis of your case that I can see is:

1. Pmom claims to be vanilla town in a role madness game.
2. Pmom doesn't vote during the majority of D1.
3. Not mentioned in your recap post, but that Pmom didn't offer a defense to your repeated claims they were scum or full claim their role.

2 is your only valid point that I see. Pmom's voting pattern yesterday is suspect, but they also spent the entire day getting called mega-scum by you. I know when similar happens to me that I tend to turtle on the thread and not feel like engaging.

That said, why didn't you remember to bring up point 3 during your recap? You made a big deal of their being no defense from Pmom for most of the last day.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.
I had a big post but I decided no one really wanted to read it and it would just be me and Zoya going in circles anyway.

I'm going to boil it down though to a simple statement:
"Someone playing differently than you would, or differently than you want them to, does not make them scum."

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.
And of course stuff happens while I post. Even happier about not making an effort post now.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

wologar posted:

This isn't the first time that Spork fervently defends someone that will likely flip scum, so I'm leaning town on him.

##vote wologar

Last time someone made a very similar post as this about me they ended up flipping scum. This feels like an attempt to pocket me.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

wologar posted:

People are probably afraid of getting challenged.

Good point.

##challenge Wologar

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.
My read at the moment is that being so thoroughly vote rushed both D1 and D2 have left Pmom unmotivated in the game. Similar things have happened to me in the past.

That leads credence to my Pmom is town theory, as I think a scum-mom would push through and post for the team, while town-mom just lies down. However if there keep being no posts, even I would be okay with the Pmom vote at this point.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

wologar posted:

Oh no! Spork is pocketing PMom!

Psh. If I was scum pocketing PMom I'd have given up a long time ago.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.
List of duels Cube has been in:

D1:
Cube challenges Stalin

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

CubicalSucrose has won the duel! His honor is proven (not that it was in doubt at this juncture).
Somber challenges Cube

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

The duel has ended with the challengers being equally matched!
TiredMoritz challenges Cube

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

CubicalSucrose has won the duel!

D2:
Cube challenges Stalin

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

CubicalSucrose has won the duel!

Cube has also strongly implied that they were the night kill target on N1 and that winning duels gave them the ability to prevent that kill.

So Cube has won 3 duels and tied another. If they knew they could drain folks of ki and use that to power other duels they could have been overspending on D1. My first thought would be a 3p that needs some number of duels either fought or won in order to achieve victory. But then opening D3 by announcing they will refuse all duels today doesn't make sense for that.

Maybe since Plastic died the drain didn't get any ki?

Regardless, I don't think drain is a town power.

##vote Cube

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

Zoya posted:

anyway speaking of never doubting myself again ##CHALLENGE SPORK

YOUR TYRANNY ENDS TODAY, COMBINATION CUTLERY. NOT EVEN MY WOUND WILL STOP ME FROM DEFEATING EVIL

##accept

Also, Zoya. Did anything happen to you last night?

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

Tired Moritz posted:

i can confirm that nothing happened to me at least

hmmm

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

wologar posted:

People who never voted for PMom: Spork and Somber.

##vote Spork

This isn't much of a 'gotcha', I was pretty adamantly not going to vote for PMom.

Do you really think I would be like in this in thread to protect a doomed scumbud?

##vote Wologar

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.
I am really not liking wolo's progression.

##challenge wolo

Also, I'm a little offended by people who think that as scum I will loudly and repeatedly defend scum no matter how it goes. Pmom all but admitted she gave up, why would a fellow scum still be arguing about the case at that point?

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

wologar posted:

Dude, this is what you've done all game:

1. Defend flipped scum.
2. Tunnel one of the two pushers of said flipped scum.

And now you challenge me again, knowing that you could kill me because I'm already wounded. That goes beyond spite.

I refuse.

I challenged you hoping it would kill you. Because I believe your scum.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

wologar posted:

So you think I pushed PMom two days from the start for no reason? This is Rhymes' Zoya argument all over again.

I think Zoya pushed PMom for two days. I think you wanted to start a turbo on your bud and it got out of hand and you had to follow, hoping to eke out some town cred.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.
I see the writing on the wall at this point.

I'm a town watcher.

Both nights I watched Zoya, figuring the loudest voice in the room would attract attention.

N1 - No one visited.

N2 - At least one non-me person visited, but Zoya seems to have suffered no ill effects, so for now I think that person was a town and I don't want to out them.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

Zoya posted:

unrelated but bringing it up now that we have a dead scumbo flip (and before i die to my next duel or a nightkill)

i was wrong about cube obviously but i still think HCT probably seeded scum into each clan, fwiw

pmom was unicorn

i'd expect a scum scorpion, a scum crab, a scum uhhhh goddamnit i checked the OP and there's like 7 or 8 clans so this isn't the recipe for victory i thought it was when i started typing, i sincerely doubt the scumteam is 7 players

anyway the other unicorns are probably not scum, at a guess

You and wologar already both claimed crab, didn't you?

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.
I am also of the noble Crane Clan.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

Deadmeat5150 posted:

Cranes believes themselves to be honorable, but in many ways are even more underhanded than Scorpions.

Sir, I would challenge you for this slight on my clan, were I able!

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.
I had a crap day at work and am about to have a 1st DnD session, so I'll keep this short.

I've moved Zoya to my town reads.

Wolo I still have suspicions on, but slightly molified. I plan to actually make a form of case on this tonight/tomorrow, just to get my thoughts out there. Still leaving my vote for now, but I will probably move it by end of game day.

Everyone else is a big blank for me right now. I've read the thread, but nothing's sticking in my brain.

I'll be back tomorrow morning and get some rereads in at that time.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.
If we trust Josef's results we know that both Kill and Drain were actions used on N1.

Kill for sure was a scum action, Drain sure sounded like one. And no one has come forward to claim being the drainer (Except Cube who needed votes for his last ring), I think we can assume those are both scum actions.

Cube claimed to have been the target of the N1 kill.
We know for sure that he had protection from kills via his role. We also know from his role he must have been the target of a night action at some point.
No one from town has come forward to claim targeting him with anything N1 since his flip, so I feel like him actually being the N1 kill target is reasonable.

Josef and AFQM both have provided soft clearance on the other in terms of the flavor they got when being drained.

I feel confident both Josef and AFQM are town.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.
Looking at duel results for Night 1:

Josef lost a duel.
Deadmeat lost a duel
mycelia lost a duel
Moritz lost a duel
Punk lost a duel (Then was yeeted)

Unless scum have ways of avoiding the roleblock consequences of losing a duel none of these 5 did either the Kill or Drain actions on N1.

This doesn't town-clear them, there would probably have been at least 3 scum in this game.

We know Pmom couldn't drain, but she could have done the night kill.

So people who could have performed action on N1.

AFancyQuestionMark (Target of the Drain N1)
CirclMastr
CubicalSucrose (Absconded 3P. Had no night actions)
Maugrim (Flipped town)
Pinterest Mom (Flipped scum, no Drain power)
PlasticAutomaton (Janitored flip, presumed town)
Rhymes With Clue
Snooze Cruise
Somberbrero
SporkChan (Claimed watch on N1)
wologar
Zoya


For my money this means that the Drain capable scum is for sure in the list of:

Circl
Rhymes
Snooze
Somber
wolo
Zoya

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SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

SporkChan posted:


For my money this means that the Drain capable scum is for sure in the list of:

Circl
Rhymes
Snooze
Somber
wolo
Zoya

I suppose I belong on that list for the rest of you as well. My claiming watcher might not be enough to get excluded at least.

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