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CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

I am going to be the best cartoon of all, Shaq.

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CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Hello I am Dr. Shaq I like to play basketball and I have a doctorate.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Oppo is scum.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Tired Moritz posted:

Just a miller this game

This is a scum post maybe.

##vote: Tired Moritz

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Zoya posted:

i am a MASONIZER, but i can only mason you if you are not in any other masonries, any non-thread communications whatsoever. so speak up if you are completely without a masonry of any kind!



Does scum chat count as a masonry?

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Johnny Keats posted:

Oh yeah also I'm a cop.



Zoya posted:

i am a MASONIZER, but i can only mason you if you are not in any other masonries, any non-thread communications whatsoever. so speak up if you are completely without a masonry of any kind!



Although slightly different, this would be very powerful, taken as written. Hmm.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Johnny Keats posted:

It sounds like yes, which makes non-scum masons effectively millers, which sheds big doubt on TM's miller claim

Why do you say that?

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Sandwolf posted:

My vote on Moritz was legit because I don稚 think I buy that *they* got Mason again

I'd vote Moritz yeah.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Oh I already am, thanks past me.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

wologar posted:

Even assuming you meant miller, what line of thinking is this? Game rolls are unrelated. Why couldn't he be a miller again? Why couldn't you be scum again?

Scum players will frequently have fake claims or prepare claims based on levels of comfort - it's a dice roll based on what role somebody gets, but it's NOT a dice roll of what players claim.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Johnny Keats posted:

Because a normal miller would be redundant. I'm not really a cop, if that wasn't clear.

It wasn't very clear to me, no.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

shwinnebego posted:

i have covid and it is making me unusually grumpy and argumentative, probably a better headspace for forums mafia than i've been in for a while

##vote moritz u gotta get killd

Yeah but think about it this way, you'll be positive about any case you make.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Zoya posted:

i don't feel like waiting for hal to check in, sorry hal, but i would like to thank you all for officially participating in my experiment!

claims can be masoned:
  • hum
  • punk
  • sandwolf
  • maerlyn
  • idle amalgam

claims cannot be masoned:
  • cube

does not claim a masonizable state:
  • keats
  • wolo
  • cckeane
  • fool of sound
  • hambeet

has not posted, might not know he's in this game:
  • hal

with the conditions i listed, i don't think scum would risk speaking up to claim they can be masoned by me, unless they simply planned to kill me tonight so i couldn't report back. therefore,

humalong, punkreas, sandwolf, maerlyn, and idle amalgam are town, or at least are not scum.

i am not a masonizer at all! thank you for playing

This is quite the overstate, imo.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Hal Insandenza posted:

What do I have to do to get off this list

Why do you care?

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Hal Insandenza posted:

I知 not really sure but I guess I just don稚 like being on lists

:(

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CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Maerlyn posted:

I think I want to vote one of the TM voters or someone who said they would vote TM but weren't going to rush into anything. That last bit is especially scummy to me, so fool of sound or keane may be good choices there.

##vote Keane

So to be clear, you are voting me, because I said I would vote TM, but weren't going to rush into anything, even though I have the earliest vote on TM.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Sandwolf posted:

I知 listening!!!

I知 actually gonna go try and find at least 2-3 instances of Moritz claiming miller, if I find them I expect everyone to tell me how cool and impressive I am

I will agree to these terms yes.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Sandwolf posted:

alright I hit a wall with VF stuff but yeah I couldn't find Moritz claiming miller in the last ~8 months

You're still cool and impressive in my heart, Sandwolf.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Absolutely nowhere else and my heart is notoriously small but you have a little space in the universe.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

fool of sound posted:

I don't really think that jokeclaims early in day 1 are policy vote territory lol.

I don't think it was a particularly clear jokeclaim, tbh.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

I don't think it's worth a policy vote and I don't think it's a sign of anything either way, but I do think there's a difference between a clear joke claim and not - Keats could walk his claim either way he wants.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Maerlyn posted:

It's only day 1 so grain of salt and all that, but this feels a bit forced:

TM claims miller, response:



More so this part which is a reply to Sand saying his vote on TM was legit, possibly based on an inaccurate memory... Feels from you like just a light hop on with no real effort/meaning behind it.

You also dismissed Zoya's gambit post which I liked, shooting down what could be accurate (too soon to say):

This feels different from what you said, which was:

Maerlyn posted:

I think I want to vote one of the TM voters or someone who said they would vote TM but weren't going to rush into anything. That last bit is especially scummy to me, so fool of sound or keane may be good choices there.

##vote Keane

I already had a vote on Moritz! Before Sandwolf discussed! I can find things suspicious or scummy independently of cases that come after my vote, in fact, I am compelled to because I am a normal human and not a 4 dimensional collection of energy signatures that constantly oscillates in the space between this moment and next.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Oh no. Hal, are you scum?????

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

RIP Hal, he died like he lived: As a sexy ALF.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Idle Amalgam posted:

TM claims a miller.
Keane thinks TMs miller claim is likely to be a scum post. On what grounds, Keane? On what grounds...
Hum seems to be lamenting a rather basic role, from his BORING remark. Is it performative scum behavior or town Hum behavior? I'm leaning town based on meta, but I wouldn't commit any one way at this point.
FoS's overly analytical introductory post seems suspicious to me. It pings me.
Wolo and beets immediate follow up posts to FoS's post are pretty
FoS makes a good retort point though. Day 1 posts usually are not the most sincere. Jokephase, lurking, regular new game hoopla.
Zoya claims masonizer.
Keats claims cop.

The whole masonlet thing seems like a distraction by Big Scum. An attempt to direct the narrative.

However, my eyes are open.



##vote wolo

Would also vote beet and maybe Sexy Alf Hal

It's like a 90s Nickelodeon show. Guts.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

CubicalSucrose posted:

I'm imagining a world where Zoya is still playing but doing it through av changes. Due to a loophole in The Rules, this doesn't count as editing POSTS, so everyone is okay with it.

Later, after a Zoya win, the Maf powers-that-be discuss the situation on Discord and consider amending the rules. Someone realizes "Zoya spend HOW MUCH? Surely, no one else would be so silly as to do this gimmick again. No rule changes necessary!"

Six months later, the next avatar war begins.

Famously, years ago, somebody bought a player the avatar of "This player is scum, signed the cop"

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Hmm.

##vote Cube

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Sandwolf posted:

This feels like a bandwagon vote FoS :/ I kinda feel like I知 bullying you and I知 really trying not to but this feels very scummy.

It felt scummy to me too, but it's voting for somebody who had only one vote on them, albeit with a lot of discussion. I don't know if it's actually a scummy vote! I'd think Cube or me would be easier targets.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Johnny Keats posted:

Cube would be an easy target if he's town. Alternately, maybe scum is not active very much at all. This hasn't been a fast moving game so I am not super wanting to draw conclusions from patterns of voting yet. Maerlyn is someone I see as less active scum if this is the case.

You know, I could see it.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

I'm not scum and it'd be a bad idea to vote me.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Punkreas posted:

Bedtime, jumping on the lead before deadline: ##vote Keane

I'll check one last time after finishing pre-work prep for the morning, in case anything wildly changes in the next 10 minutes or so

This is a scum post.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Anyway, I'm not going to claim because the script would be "No he's lying!", so I'm going to go with the script of "Ugh why didn't Keane claim I wouldn't have voted him".

Maerlyn and Punkreas' votes are bad - I do think they're scum.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Zoya posted:

hi again folks!!! gentle zoya reminder that keane and fool are scumbuds!! (i am immediately dragged offscreen by a comically large shepherds crook)

I liked your first account better.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Zoyas posts are actually a pretty good indicator of what I find very frustrating about this situation - Zoya mostly just been repeating that I am scum with little substantial argument, as have most of the votes on me. It's all incredibly opportunistic all around. It's not fun! I'm not enjoying it! Make an argument or at least have the intestinal fortitude to cop to it being gut calls!

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

I'd vote Keats, the fake claims was bad and confusing, and his response to Sandwolf was pretty self conscious.

##vote: Keats

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Johnny Keats posted:

This is soft shade on me based on Cube's randomly incorrect statement.... could be Scumwolf.

This is a weird post!

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Ugh.

##vote: cube

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

fool of sound posted:

Keats why would you sincerely claim doctor day 1 before any serious pressure was even on you?

I think it's a reasonable claim and time to make it.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Hmm

##vote: fool of sound

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CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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fool of sound posted:

I'm happier voting keats than I am keane but I'll be more or less around for another couple hours. Tbh I wouldn't be adverse to a big swing to zoya to test how sincere their masonizer gambit actually was.

##vote keats


Late days posts are strange and feel more geared toward figuring out town zeitgeist than finding scum - the zoya post here is strange, especially since I'm not sure where the sincerity of the masonizer Gambit comes in?

That plus the reaction to Keats feel bad.

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