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H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006
Looks like enough apps are going to stop working for me soon that I will be forced to update my phone. I'm currently on a Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra which hasn't updated since it forced an update while I was trying to use my phone in November 2020.

How can I backup my phone before doing this update? Is there a way to take an image of it these days which I could actually roll back to? Everything seems to be about uploading my files to google drive or whatever which I already do for photos and such.

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H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

Quixzlizx posted:

Why does the Play Store have a search button at the bottom of the screen, which just brings up the search bar at the top of the screen where I was expecting it to be in the first place?

A product manager needed a promotion.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006
Bingo. Don't prevent me from using my device and don't force updates.

I just went and counted, I have ~72 apps permanently disabled including 4 facebook ones. I do not have facebook installed. Plus another 10 or so that I use once a month-ish each but wakeup regularly to check for ??? with no way to disable it, or insist on having the notification permission to function. I use a sketchy £4/year app that has device management permissions to even uncover half this crap to disable it. No, I don't want Bixby, or AR, or a Samsung account. Thanks.

Do the latest versions of android still force push updates? I presume yes, so I will continue to leave it disabled. If I could do it at my leisure, and have the option to only instal security updates, I would continue to let the application run and check for updates.

H110Hawk fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Jan 20, 2025

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006
I'm a big dumb dumb I'm OK with that. Regardless, how do folks do backups of their phones (apps and all)? Is "Smart Switch" the way to go or is there a better way?

https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS10002780/

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006
It's basically the same process as long as you can login to something as I recall. You just need to tell them your new imei or whatever. (*#06# info) if you can't login to a portal because it's a work plan that's going to be hard.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

bull3964 posted:

Not always and it's something they can change from a policy perspective at any time, including levying a charge to do so.

For awhile (they might still be doing this) T-Mobile required a phone call and sometimes even a store visit before they will transfer an eSIM to a new phone. They said it was due to "security".

No thanks.

I agree with you on the meat of this, it should be one of those easy to do things. T-mobile is exceptionally sensitive to it because they were hit the hardest by sim swap attacks. Enrolling an iphone with Verizon was painless. I imagine there is some fixed but low cost for them issuing the esim credentials, and they're extremely warry of sim swapping so they need to be drat sure who you are before allowing the digital key to move over. Especially if you can't authenticate on the old device first.

I have a physical sim and I like it, but I won't be super worried about changing to esim because I switch devices at most the frequency of a "typical" person.

Now if someone tried to charge me $30 to continue being a customer with them like ATT does I would make them waive it, hopefully costing them more than $30 in support costs in the process.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006
Two updates later it's downloading 2.1gb of Android 11.

(the following morning) I lost count but I think I'm up to 10 updates and it's doing android 12 now. :v:

H110Hawk fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Jan 29, 2025

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

WattsvilleBlues posted:

Please never do this to the thread again :cheersdoge:

Made it to android 13 and the next update has a mandatory arbitration clause. So far the annoying thing is it deleted my keyboard app without prompting, losing all the predictions etc.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

explosivo posted:

Yeah I know, it's all anyone in tech's keynotes are this year, it's just something you have to see to believe I guess lol. The S22 was juuuust before everyone started hyping AI like crazy so the worst I had to deal with then was ignoring Bixby.

That was back when "AR" was the hottest thing imagined. Thankfully Bixby is easy to disable entirely.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:

i dont have household internet, so the ability to search things is nice and im paying a fraction of what i would for household internet.

sadly im on a 5 or six year old samsung, s21 i think?

You can buy a router which accepts a sim card as its internet source.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

TITTIEKISSER69 posted:

So I've mentioned that I got my dad (75) to switch from an S21 to a Pixel 7 Pro. He let me know today that he's having a problem.

When his phone rings, he'll try to answer but a bunch of queued up notifications start appearing. By the time he's pushed them aside, he's missed the call.

What the hell? There isn't a always on top phone call screen when it's ringing?

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

TITTIEKISSER69 posted:

Knowing my old pop, it's more likely he's getting distracted and hyper-focusing on everything but the call.

Still, I would also like to unlock my phone and see all notifications already there, instead of having them all blow up my phone at once a couple seconds after unlock.

But the notifications shouldn't be popping up over the "incoming call" screen should they? You don't even have to unlock to answer a call unless things have changed dramatically in the latest few versions of android.

That's battery optimization - your phone is putting apps into deep sleep because of how poorly that infrastructure is made for notifications. You can tweak this in your settings, on mine it's under like "device health" -> "Battery." How many notifications could you possibly be getting though? Why not turn them off instead? Maybe help dad cull apps which shouldn't be spamming him, odds are he doesn't know how to turn them off.

One nice thing from upgrading - apps have to ask to send notifications now which is nice. One annoying thing is Authy asks me every time I open it if it can send me notifications and frankly gently caress off.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

Blue Footed Booby posted:

Doesn't this mean you told it to ask every time?

No, it's the app giving me a prompt whining about not having notification permissions.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

bull3964 posted:

Apps can only request permissions and get denied 3 times before the system swallows the request and doesn't prompt you anymore.

At least, that's how it is for AOSP and Pixel. I don't know if Samsung has futzed with that.

This isn't an android prompt. It's the app itself bitching. Like how WhatsApp pretends it needs your address book to function - a thing notably absent on iPhones.

H110Hawk fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Feb 3, 2025

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

bull3964 posted:

The app shouldn't be able know if they are disabled at the system level. Go ahead and enable them in the app and then disable them at the system level.

It knows. :shrug: There are literally no configurable "notifications" inside the app itself but 6 categories or so inside the notification permission screen. If I toggle on the android permission it stops complaining, if I toggle it off it starts again. If I toggle off every category but leave their permission it stops complaining. Apps can request to know if they have a certain permission or not, but they can only force the android permission request two or three times. Instagram knows it doesn't have camera access, WhatsApp knows it can't read an address book, Authy knows it can't send me notifications.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

Soul Glo posted:

First weird Pixel 9 problem showed up where I had my phone plugged into a charger (Anker charger, Anker cable), and randomly the phone's screen would turn on and make the charging sound again, like I had just plugged in the cable. The screen would go back dark, and it would take several minutes before repeating. I swapped the charger over to a different outlet on the surge protector, and it was able to finish the charge without incident.

It's just weird, because I had fully charged an iPad using that exact same cable/charger/outlet combination literally moments before without issue. I had just removed the cable from the iPad and swapped it over to my phone. Googling nets multiple results from Reddit from between 2-5 months ago with people having similar issues on the P9 line, with people recommending to turn off adaptive charging and restarting the phone to fix it.

Anybody ITT have problems charging their P9 phones? Did turning off adaptive charging fix it?

I'm suddenly having this problem on Android 13 using my stock samsung or a newish Anker 100W on my S20U. I think I've narrowed it down to a AmazonBasics USB-C cable. Never an issue on Android 10. I thought my usb-c port was giving up the ghost.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

Skarsnik posted:

I didn't read any of it as it looked extremely dull

bull3964 posted:

google has standards

I got to this and couldn't stop laughing.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

bull3964 posted:

Do you really think you are the best person to chime into a conversation about Samsung phones and updates?

I have as many standards as Google. :v:

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006
Somewhere between 10 and 13 they made 3/4 of my chargers not work which is nice. That's a feature, right?

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H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

Quixzlizx posted:

This isn't the perfect thread for this, but I'm not sure which one it would go into. Can anyone point me to a reputable brand of adjustable power adapter? I recently had an issue with my cable modem, and I didn't have any other 12V/1.5A power supplies lying around to test to see if the adapter was the issue. And I don't want to buy a random one off Amazon and burn down my house with it.

Buy a whole cable modem off Amazon. Return it once done testing. Consider putting the bad power brick back in the box.

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