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Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
The A54 5G is still the go-to midranger when esim support is one of the must haves?

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Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Looked into it a bit since I like the idea of a small powerful phone with a big battery but only two years of OS updates seems really poor, when google is about to move to 5 and even other manufacturers are offering double that.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
I phrased that poorly, I meant double the two years that Asus offers, like Samsung and OnePlus do.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Do they usually have reviews up right after the announcement or are reviewers only getting their devices in the coming days? I'm curious to read a deep dive on the 8, since I could probably upgrade for 200-300 Euro between trade-ins and selling the Pixel Watch 2 but from just the spec sheet I don't see the value over the 7.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

bull3964 posted:

It's probably only going to be hands on today with initial impressions and unboxings and I wouldn't expect the full embargo to drop until next week sometime. You see that pretty much with all tech stuff.

What's your take based on the specs so far? More of a refresh than a substantial upgrade?

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
If these upgrades are enough to allow for smooth scrolling of the Google Now feed for the first time, hell, I might even upgrade myself.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Support page is up and confirms that 7 years of support is for security *and* OS updates.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Update check just found the OTA for Android 14 on my international Pixel 7 Pro.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Is this not just Google not wanting to deal with self imposed deadlines? Instead of stories about updates being delayed from the usual schedule, they're saying the schedule is just "when it's done", which really just means there is no schedule.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

bull3964 posted:

Google has managed to do Level 3 Biometrics with a simple front facing camera.

I may be missing something obvious but that stuff isn't regulated, is it? Isn't it just Google deciding whatever level of security they can achieve with a single cam is good enough? It's not independently verified or whatever, is what I'm trying to say.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

bull3964 posted:

I will laugh like CRAZY though if the S24U ends up having a Samsung LSI SD8 Gen 3 in it because of all the collective head implosions.

Do you expect a fully custom Google chip by the Pixel 10 or later?

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

bull3964 posted:

One could argue that its moot now since the major hurdle is surmounted (long term update plan.)

Hmm, complex subject, thanks for laying it out tho.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Learned with some surprise this morning that, after updating to Android 14, my alarm was blocked by having DND on. I assume, since I've not seen any posts about this, this is some weird bug that happened to only me tho?

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

ShoogaSlim posted:

assuming you've checked these settings and allowed alarms to interrupt dnd?

I had everything set up correctly and after updating to Android 14 alarms weren't allowed through DND anymore, I've since set it up again but worth looking in your settings just to make sure is what I'm saying.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

Rap Game Goku posted:

Its set to show everything. At least all the places I've found to look. All I get is:

If you use face unlock with the skip Lockscreen option, you don't get Lockscreen widgets. It sucks but iiwii.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
I noticed since upgrading my P7P to Android 14 those automated texts with a one time use code arrive quicker than before, used to I often had to wait over 30 seconds to a minute, now they always arrive within 10 seconds. Has anyone else noticed something similar? I feel like it must be a phone side change, since it started happening right after the 14 update.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

bull3964 posted:

Just wanted to point out that the 7a is super repairable (even moreso than the 6a).

If this holds true, or is maybe even improved, for the 8a, that should make that a great value proposition.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Google has recently implemented a change where, when paying with Google Pay at an NFC terminal, I have to confirm payment via fingerprint which I find quite annoying. I remember that the facial unlock on the Pixel 8 is considered fingerprint equivalent, can anyone confirm that and that you don't need the fingerprint to pay at a NFC terminal? I'm in Europe, in case region matters at all.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

With those numbers it's no surprise Google extended their update support to make people keep their phones for longer.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

bull3964 posted:

Apple obsoleted 75% their current phone lineup.

I've not watched the apple show, what do you mean by this?

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

sirbeefalot posted:

Sorry Google, now all I want is a Pixel X.

First generation Google chip seems a lil scary, at least with Tensor you already know how lackluster it is.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

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Pretentiousness
Yea, was interesting to read.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Bull do you reckon the 9 Pro and 9 Pro XL will have equal battery life? I think the 9 Pro is the most interesting to me personally but a worse battery life than the XL, if significant, would be tough to swallow.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Yes.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

quote:

With the Pixel 9, Google is finally making the switch to an ultrasonic fingerprint scanner. The specific unit used is Qualcomm’s 3D Sonic Gen 2 (QFS4008) — the same exact model as the Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra. The fingerprint scanners on Samsung devices have been excellent for a while now, so this is good news.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
The new gizmo buzz never lasts long but you only got one life so gently caress it.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
https://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_9_pixel_9_pro_pixel_9_pro_xl_and_pixel_9_pro_fold_prices_leak-news-63684.php

Some price increases between the 8 and the 9 series but nothing crazy.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
How does yubikey work in practice? A site, PayPal for example, pops up a 2FA code window and instead of entering a code you have to press a button on this plugged in USB stick?

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Some details on the Tensor G4: https://www.androidauthority.com/exclusive-tensor-g4-small-upgrade-3466398/

Very minor upgrades to the CPU cluster, same NPU as the G3, more efficient modem, same process as the G3

Incessant Excess fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Jul 31, 2024

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Pixel 9 will support 45w chargers and not launch with a new android version: https://m.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_9_pixel_9_pro_pixel_9_pro_xl_software_storage_charging_details_leak-news-63933.php

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Any information on the review embargo?

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

bull3964 posted:

FYI, the 9 and 9 Pro are literally the exact same external size and configuration. Their cases are interchangeable.

This has a good comparison, looks like cameras and ram are the big differences:

https://www.androidfaithful.com/google-pixel-9-vs-pixel-9-pro/

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

bull3964 posted:

Yeah, internally they are different, I was only talking about the exterior dimensions.

I was a bit surprised by the screen being the same size too, thought they might differentiate it via the bezels but no. I'll still go for the Pro I think, mainly for the better screen and cooling, hopefully that'll translate into better battery life.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

Magic City Monday posted:

I haven't put a case on my phone in years, but am thinking about it for the P9P I pre-ordered (I had been thinking about just getting a screen protector and leaving it at that but am now thinking a case might be good since it's a reasonable size now).

What are generally good (thin) cases? Just get the standard Google one?

I'm using a magnetic car mount, so I'll be getting a Mous thin case with magsafe support from the official Google Store.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Review embargo is up: https://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_9_pro_xl-review-2738p6.php

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

bull3964 posted:

"Camera hardware could use an upgrade"

I mean, they upgraded 3 out of the 4 sensors on the phone, but ok.

Guess those upgrades didn't translate into meaningful improvements in picture quality :shrug:

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Is there a cheaper than the official charger that supports the maximum speed of the Pixel 9 Pro?

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

bull3964 posted:

For RIGHT NOW, I would say your best bet at broad compatibility is the Google charger. $29.99 is a bit overpriced, but it's not horribly out of this world as far as pricing goes. That said, it's not going to make a huge difference in total charge times as the battery has to be pretty low for it to hit max charge rates and it doesn't stay at them long (like pretty much all fast charging).

You could have said trust me on this and I would have, appreciate the detailed response tho!

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

bull3964 posted:

Anker Ace 313 45w

This one seems like the way to go, since its, at least in Europe, 20 Euro compared to the 35 Google is asking for the official one. Thanks for the rec, won't be getting my 9 Pro till sometime in September but I'll pick this up once I do.

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Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Bull do you know of a multiport charger that supports PPS and Supervooc? I have a Pixel and a OnePlus Pad and I can only fast charge the pad on the charger it came with, which is mildly annoying.

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