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Stereophile is amateur poo poo compared to The Absolute Sound (from their list of best music NAS/servers of 2023) 
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Sep 18, 2023 00:11
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A seven thousand five hundred dollar black box to make everything sound like T Pain.
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Sep 18, 2023 01:58
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DarkSol posted:Why is the website formatted so weirdly? It sounds better that way. 
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Sep 18, 2023 02:26
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Stereophile is amateur poo poo compared to The Absolute Sound Wait, what does it actually do (aside from nothing obviously)? Pitch correction without altering speed is not exactly simple stuff, and even then you'd need to know how much to correct, unless you just assume everything is in A440, which doesn't work for classical for dumb reasons and some classic rock for laziness reasons.
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Sep 18, 2023 07:05
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BonHair posted:Wait, what does it actually do (aside from nothing obviously)? Pitch correction without altering speed is not exactly simple stuff, and even then you'd need to know how much to correct, unless you just assume everything is in A440, which doesn't work for classical for dumb reasons and some classic rock for laziness reasons. Looking it up, seems like it does alter the speed, and just assumes everything is A440. You can't expect something fancy for a mere $7500
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Sep 18, 2023 08:34
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Qwertycoatl posted:Looking it up, seems like it does alter the speed, and just assumes everything is A440. You can't expect something fancy for a mere $7500 incredible also, lmao at "auditioning" music also also from their website: quote:• 2 TB full SSD storage on spring suspension system, with SATA noise filtering and SATA protocol tweaking for lower EMI. ah, yes, isolate your solid state storage from ambient vibrations.
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Sep 18, 2023 09:01
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Qwertycoatl posted:Looking it up, seems like it does alter the speed, and just assumes everything is A440. You can't expect something fancy for a mere $7500 That's incredible! And also, since it slows it down, that's technically reducing the amount of signal per second. Not to mention that you could get the same result by fiddling very slightly with your turntable. I'm a heathen streamer, but I think most of them have ways to slightly correct speed? And let's not even mention that half the point of A432 is the timbre of the instruments, which would not be affected by slowing.
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Sep 18, 2023 09:59
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death cob for cutie posted:also, lmao at "auditioning" music I believe in this case they're referring to listening to bits of kit rather than music? You 'audition' a set of speakers etc...
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Sep 18, 2023 19:28
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the best thing about that NAS is that the reviewer says the pitch adjustment sounds like poo poo but recommends the product anyway
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Sep 18, 2023 19:39
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I actually bothered to read the review. The guy clearly doesn't understand computers, and the manufacturer strikes me as a grifter (since he knows something presumably). But I'm the sort of nerd who finds tunings interesting, and this guy also clearly doesn't get how they work either. He seems to think that all music is performed at A440, in accordance with ISO 16. This is very much not the case for classical music. And even if there are a few options, who knows what tuning their music is played in?
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Sep 18, 2023 20:42
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Yeah but if you play your A432 music through the magic box it will be ~A420 
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Sep 18, 2023 21:21
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I believe in this case they're referring to listening to bits of kit rather than music? You 'audition' a set of speakers etc... There's a bit to unpack with the "auditioning music" statement. Audiophiles do mean "audition music" in the literal sense because what they're doing is trying out different pieces of music to see which specific tracks make their stereo systems sound best, vs which tracks are simply too primitive and unrefined to be permitted to reach their delicate and sophisticated aural palates that are obviously better than everyone else’s and therefore deserve to be protected from poor mixes resulting in harsh sibilants, flat muddy mids, tubby bass, and lifeless transients only fit for commoners and livestock. The kind of music they listen to doesn't actually matter to them because, again, these people don't actually care about music. All that matters to them is the experience of hearing a highly expensive system they have convinced themselves produces "very fine" sound, no matter what that sound might be specifically. As the saying goes, most people use gear to listen to music, but audiophiles use music to listen to gear. GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Sep 19, 2023 |
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Sep 18, 2023 21:37
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A weird server box is one thing but that's not why I come here. Give me a box of crystals or some kind of Floor Cube. What's the new stupid fad, thread
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Sep 19, 2023 11:37
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The Grumbles posted:What's the new stupid fad, thread Audiophile NAS, sorry this floor cube requires a bit of understanding to laugh at. Feels Villeneuve posted:Stereophile is amateur poo poo compared to The Absolute Sound
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Sep 19, 2023 15:38
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A432 is one of the best audiophile snake oil holes, lyndon larouche was a big proponent so you know it's good poo poo
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Sep 19, 2023 15:51
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Feels Villeneuve posted:A432 is one of the best audiophile snake oil holes, lyndon larouche was a big proponent so you know it's good poo poo It’s a healing frequency and LaRouche wanted to heal a nation
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Sep 19, 2023 16:00
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quote:What is it about electronic music that makes it impossible for some to stand still? https://www.binauralbeatsmeditation.com/432-hz-truth-behind-natures-frequency/
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Sep 19, 2023 16:00
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CIA locked up A432 in Guantanamo without a trial and the American people act like this is totally normal.
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Sep 19, 2023 18:27
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The true secret to audio bliss is a system that can play 15-60hz real fuckin' loud.
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Sep 19, 2023 18:32
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Double post for terrible news: lossy DRM garbage codec MQA was in administration [British for bankruptcy] but got purchased by Lenbrook, owners of Bluesound, NAD and PSBquote:Lenbrook Corp., a diversified, privately-owned Canadian enterprise with activities in brand development, technology, and distribution in both residential and commercial audio and the communication sectors, has acquired the assets of MQA, a UK-based industry leader in high-resolution audio encoding.
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Sep 19, 2023 19:04
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GreatGreen posted:There's a bit to unpack with the "auditioning music" statement. In practice, I have found that this means that audiophiles love to listen to the most boring and generic white people music of the 1950s to 1980s. Buy our $9000 box to make your smooth jazz elevator music sound like nothing you've ever heard before!
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Sep 24, 2023 20:15
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well you have to be responsible with such high-end equipment, if you put some actual good poo poo through there you might die of sonic ecstasy or something
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Sep 24, 2023 21:05
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I always wonder if these schmucks have opinions on concert halls, and instrument makers, and musicians, but then I remember that they don't generally give a poo poo about the music itself.
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Sep 24, 2023 22:51
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I like sine waves generally, maybe some triangle if I'm feeling spicy
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Sep 25, 2023 00:58
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The last thread has a baller post about this. Basically, the “audiophile genre” seems to be smooth vocal jazz with a female vocalist. It’s about chasing the “classy” image of having a woman entertain you. The other post was better written.
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Sep 25, 2023 01:21
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stealie72 posted:I always wonder if these schmucks have opinions on concert halls, and instrument makers, and musicians, but then I remember that they don't generally give a poo poo about the music itself. I frequently wonder how much they know about how music is recorded. Breathlessly gushing over the accurate soundstage reproduction while the original artists were just plugged into the board and sitting wherever looked comfy. Or maybe in separate tracking rooms. Or even not in the studio together at all! well why not posted:The last thread has a baller post about this. Basically, the “audiophile genre” seems to be smooth vocal jazz with a female vocalist. It’s about chasing the “classy” image of having a woman entertain you. The other post was better written. This is Steely Dan erasure
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Sep 25, 2023 01:46
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gently caress you, don’t diss the Dan
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Sep 25, 2023 01:49
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Discussion Quorum posted:I frequently wonder how much they know about how music is recorded. Breathlessly gushing over the accurate soundstage reproduction while the original artists were just plugged into the board and sitting wherever looked comfy. Or maybe in separate tracking rooms. Or even not in the studio together at all! Isn’t there video from some documentary of Billie Eilish literally recording vocals in a hotel room on a bean bag?
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Sep 25, 2023 02:00
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Probably, she and Finneas (sp?) are pretty infamously literal bedroom producers I've also read many times that most artists will just listen to the final mix on their phone and engineers will check their work on lovely car stereos. So if you want the true studio experience, buy some airpods and a 2010 Nissan Sentra lol
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Sep 25, 2023 02:09
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stealie72 posted:I always wonder if these schmucks have opinions on concert halls, and instrument makers, and musicians, but then I remember that they don't generally give a poo poo about the music itself. I do but I'm not a fuckin clown that shells out piles of  for huge cables. I've just got a reasonable setup for around $1000 all in, and I get pretty stoked when I find a record that is so well recorded and engineered that you can hear the reverberations in the concert hall or hear quieter counterpoint melodies or subtle flourishes from the drummer/bassist and poo poo that you never noticed on dogshit setups.
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Sep 25, 2023 02:28
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well why not posted:The last thread has a baller post about this. Basically, the “audiophile genre” seems to be smooth vocal jazz with a female vocalist. It’s about chasing the “classy” image of having a woman entertain you. The other post was better written. Mederlock posted:I've just got a reasonable setup for around $1000 all in stealie72 fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Sep 25, 2023 |
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Sep 25, 2023 02:29
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Mederlock posted:I do but I'm not a fuckin clown that shells out piles of i don't like my music enough to get a pair of KH120 II even when i can easily afford it Palladium fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Sep 25, 2023 |
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Sep 25, 2023 03:36
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Discussion Quorum posted:Probably, she and Finneas (sp?) are pretty infamously literal bedroom producers If you're mastering a track, you want to hear how it's supposed to sound, but also how the typical use case sounds, which means car stereo, Bluetooth speakers and headphones. It makes sense to hear your work on both the studio monitors and the user gear to make sure it actually performs reasonably for most audiences. Also with technology nowadays, it's common to just record guitars and keyboards as just the raw signal played to either a click or a dummy live recording and then apply effects in post and smush all the bits together. Vocals mostly just need a good mic and a room with low reverb, which incidentally could be a bedroom.
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Sep 25, 2023 12:46
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I think I remember the Youtuber DMS at one point saying in a video if your studio didn't have a pair of Apple Earpods to check mixes on you're not doing your job properly.
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Sep 25, 2023 12:52
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well why not posted:The last thread has a baller post about this. Basically, the “audiophile genre” seems to be smooth vocal jazz with a female vocalist. It’s about chasing the “classy” image of having a woman entertain you. The other post was better written. One of the funnier rooms at an audio show I went to took this idea to an extreme level by having scented candles, and being lit only by candlelight. Later in the day I realized the scented candles were a good idea when I walked into the Andrew Jones MoFi room, and had to immediately exit because it smelled crazy in there. The white female jazz vocalists that dealers love to use for demo music don't reveal anything useful about how a speaker can reproduce frequencies. All that exists in that genre is "detail."
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Sep 25, 2023 18:41
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I once put on a not-particularly-high bitrate MP3 of "Nasty Ways" in a hifi shop because I wanted to see what sibilance sounded like on their speakers and the snares are way too hot on that track. The staff was not amused [but also the speakers were too bright]. They loved the long mix of Orbital's "The Box" I brought, though, it's my go-to new gear track because it has pretty much everything in it. I've found a few acts I like from reading audio gear reviews, Anna von Hausswolff in particular. But yeah, most of it is dadrock/granddadrock, breathy female vocalists, some specific Mahler recording and occasionally Random Access Memories by Daft Punk.
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Sep 25, 2023 18:55
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qirex posted:I once put on a not-particularly-high bitrate MP3 of "Nasty Ways" in a hifi shop because I wanted to see what sibilance sounded like on their speakers and the snares are way too hot on that track. The staff was not amused [but also the speakers were too bright]. They loved the long mix of Orbital's "The Box" I brought, though, it's my go-to new gear track because it has pretty much everything in it. This song is my new favourite track to demo gear on, it's produced really well, it's got lots going on across the frequency range, lots of little details and some diversity in style and mood within the track. https://twrp.bandcamp.com/track/black-swan-feat-dan-avidan Plus it gets the hifi shop staff looking over with confusion at first, and then they're usually digging it by the end. E: switched to the Bandcamp as it sounds better without the YouTube compression and whatever Mederlock fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Sep 25, 2023 |
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Sep 25, 2023 20:22
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qirex posted:I once put on a not-particularly-high bitrate MP3 of "Nasty Ways" in a hifi shop because I wanted to see what sibilance sounded like on their speakers and the snares are way too hot on that track. The staff was not amused [but also the speakers were too bright]. They loved the long mix of Orbital's "The Box" I brought, though, it's my go-to new gear track because it has pretty much everything in it. lol if you don’t test your transients and dynamic range with Death Grips, E40, and the Tron Legacy soundtrack
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Sep 25, 2023 20:51
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I test with third-generation bootlegs of 1980s hardcore punk shows
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Sep 25, 2023 21:58
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So that’s what I need to be doing with that CD of St. Anger I have somewhere.
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