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Arson Daily posted:Hey Chuck, its Jeff and nope, not overreacting. If you can, take your money elsewhere since they've proven, in one preflight, that their maintenance isn't capable of maintaining the aircraft and don't seem to care that they're not either. I think, unfortunately, that small town aviation is gonna be pretty tricky since most flight instructors are going to want to be in the large college or pilot mill programs, because that is what's going to get them to the majors the fastest, while instructing the dad with a full time job at the local uncontrolled field isn't. If time and money allow it, I'd suggest looking at one of the larger pilot programs near you. West Michigan isn't too far from Chicago or even Detroit so those might be options. I trained back when you did, and the aviation landscape has changed so drastically it's hard to put into words. It's not even the pre 9/11 hiring boom, its bigger than that, and there is an absolute frenzy to get people through training and on to the regionals and majors, which is leaves people like you with a much harder task of finding a place where you can achieve more modest goals like instructing on the weekends or teaching your son. Good luck! Unbelievable. I've missed you, my friend. I absolutely read that in your voice.  You still using the same gmail address from the last time we talked? Mine hasn't changed. I'd really like to catch up with you.Glad I'm not entirely crazy then. I got the exact same vibes last night as I got from my days flying and working line at Brooks Aero. "You're fine, don't worry about it," drat near got me killed back when I was a teenager and didn't have the gumption to push back on the chief mechanic. Dead sticking a Maule into a downwind landing at the busiest uncontrolled airport in the state when the ink is still drying your PPL cert tends to make one squeamish about that dismissive maintenance attitude. I think that's at least part of why I posted - validation that I'm not just being a chickenshit based on past experiences. I don't know as the Chicago/Detroit schtick would be an option for me. I've got a full time gig at our alma mater these days and I don't want to be away from family for anything like an extended period. At this point, I've got a couple options. I'll see how the other aircraft looks this weekend, assuming weather doesn't hose me. If it's a bust, I may be able to look at a small operation in AZO. If that doesn't pan out, there are a couple flying clubs around here that are worth exploring. And lastly, I have a couple computer nerd friends that have also gotten into aviation and we've had some conversations around going partners on a plane. I wouldn't mind getting my A&P current to work on whatever airplane I owned; I think I still have enough connections to make that happen.
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Yeah same gmail and same number too if you've still got it. I thought you had stopped posting here so reading your post was like a bolt from the blue. Any way I'll stop the detail but feel free to call or email or PM!
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Oct 18, 2023 23:57
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Your instincts were 100% correct. That mechanic has normalized enough deviance that he’s absolutely gonna loving kill someone, it’s just a matter of when. Condolences on trying to find an alternate rental though. That part sucks real hard right now.
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Oct 19, 2023 14:31
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Maaaaan I thought getting an island trip in OE was a good thing cause I get my qualification ride out of the way. Now I’m the only junior guy qualified for these early rear end pop-up’s to NAS. I should be sleeping!!
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Oct 20, 2023 10:36
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Rookie airline pilot mistake. Ideally you want to be the least qualified pilot on the reserve list but dodging an LA qual on OE is pretty difficult. On the plus side long San Juan overnights are freaking awesome and half our pilots avoid them because they think it's a foreign country.
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https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/1716463941298323664?t=MZKLVvoVNtCjBa7KKnURIQ&s=19 I guess trying to ride the jump seat is going to be fun for a while, huh?
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CBJSprague24 posted:https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/1716463941298323664?t=MZKLVvoVNtCjBa7KKnURIQ&s=19  quote:The suspect, Alaska Airlines pilot Joseph D. Emerson, 44, was charged with 83 counts of attempted murder and endangering an aircraft, both felonies, according to the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office. Emerson was booked into the county jail early Monday. He also faces 83 counts of reckless endangerment, a misdemeanor. He was off-duty when he was in the cockpit. Just kill yourself, jesus. Do they teach pilots hand-to-hand?
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Blue Footed Booby posted:
He also got one count of tampering with an aircraft, which is another felony.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:
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^^^ FedEx also has IR countermeasures on some aircraft. CBJSprague24 posted:He also got one count of tampering with an aircraft, which is another felony. But he wasn’t charged with the coolest sounding crime hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Oct 23, 2023 |
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Blue Footed Booby posted:
Yes. They tell us to yell "judo chop!" and then comically slap someone's hand Real talk though it sounds like the poor guy has some real unfortunate poo poo going on in his head and maybe if the FAA and aviation in general didn't stigmatize mental health this person wouldn't have done what he did. 88 felony counts isn't going to help him and it drat sure isn't gonna get others that are having problems like that seek out help either. HIMS programs and the like work and seriously get in touch with them if you need to. Arson Daily fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Oct 24, 2023 |
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hobbesmaster posted:But he wasn’t charged with the coolest sounding crime I knew what this was gonna be before I clicked on it. Every time I do some kind of security paperwork I’m like “they should really clarify this as something less kickass sounding.”
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https://www.kgw.com/article/news/lo...9b-825c3d072312quote:Off-duty pilot who tried to cut off plane's engines midflight said it was his first time using psychedelic mushrooms, affidavit says Protip: don’t try and use mushrooms instead of
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Oct 24, 2023 19:43
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I did not have that on my bingo card
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Oct 24, 2023 19:49
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Related, is it possible to restart engines after pulling the fire handles? When I was in college, the PCATD lab course I took was taught by a line pilot at Comair. This was right after the Lexington crash and, when asked what he would do in that situation, his response was pull the fire handles. I guess my impression was it nuked the engines with retardant once they were deployed.
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Oct 24, 2023 20:01
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Aren’t the T-handles a fuel cut off and discharging a bottle a separate action? Though, I’ll believe anything you tell me about a CRJ.
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Dunno, but the fire buttons in the EC135 cuts off the fuel and discharges the extinguisher and I'm pretty sure the FADEC wont let you restart the engine.
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On my citation the fire buttons just close the shutoff valves and arm the fire bottles, and pretty sure hitting the button again opens the valves back up, so it’s possible but definitely aircraft dependent. No one really talks about it though because it’s assumed you’re hitting the fire button for a reason 
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On the 175 pulling the fire handle back into the aft detent shuts off fuel and hydraulic, turns off the fadec, shuts off the IDG and arms the fire bottles. To discharge the bottles the handle must be rotated either left or right (for A or B fire bottle, respectively). If the bottles haven't been discharged, stowing the fire handle back into the fwd detent will undo everything and the fadec will attempt to automatically relight the engine. If the bottles have been discharged, I honestly don't know. Not sure if we couldn't relight due to procedural limitations or if there's a system interlock to prevent it.
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hobbesmaster posted:Aren’t the T-handles a fuel cut off and discharging a bottle a separate action? Wasn’t it an ERJ-175? If it was a CRJ, the fire buttons and bottle buttons are separate. Assuming it’s the same design as the challenger I used to fly, which I think it is, pressing the fire button while the engines aren’t at idle/cutoff is super duper bad for the fuel system and can start fires that weren’t there before.
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Yep, it was a ERJ-175. Horizon doesn't operate CRJs.
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Rolo posted:Wasn’t it an ERJ-175? I meant to refer to the Comair comment.
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cigaw posted:
I asked one of our maintenance folks about that a while ago, and their best guess was that the engine would likely try and restart, since the FADEC doesn't seem to look for fire bottle status when it runs a start cycle. The person I talked to figured the bigger issue would be whether the extinguishing agent fouls the igniters or any of the various sensors the FADEC uses to schedule fuel and air to the engine, since erroneous readings from those could trigger the hot/hung start logic the system uses to decide when to abort a start.
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azflyboy posted:I asked one of our maintenance folks about that a while ago, and their best guess was that the engine would likely try and restart, since the FADEC doesn't seem to look for fire bottle status when it runs a start cycle. If was on fire and taking damage I'd think there is concern about trying to relight and not having any fire suppression available if it goes bad?
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yellowD posted:If was on fire and taking damage I'd think there is concern about trying to relight and not having any fire suppression available if it goes bad? If you have another healthy engine then yeah don't touch it but if you're choosing between zero engines and one that is getting hosed up while making thrust...
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Yeah, I think the design philosophy behind most jet engines is "if the pilot wants it on during flight it's probably for a reason" and it'll do it's darndest to get turning. Kinda how modern fadecs will auto shutdown an engine on the ground if on fire but not in the air.
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Hell, my last plane had a built in delay for shutting an engine down in flight just to give you time to put the switch back in case you moved it on accident, something like 5 or 7 seconds before actually shutting down.
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When I worked at FSI we had an instructor that, during recurrent, liked to give you a flock of birds on takeoff that would kill an engine and light the other on fire. Every so often a guy would grab the glowing handle without thinking and whelp here comes the red screen.
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Rolo posted:When I worked at FSI we had an instructor that, during recurrent, liked to give you a flock of birds on takeoff that would kill an engine and light the other on fire. Every so often a guy would grab the glowing handle without thinking and whelp here comes the red screen. “I can’t believe everyone has trouble with this,” says instructor Sully Sullenberger.
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Rolo posted:When I worked at FSI we had an instructor that, during recurrent, liked to give you a flock of birds on takeoff that would kill an engine and light the other on fire. Every so often a guy would grab the glowing handle without thinking and whelp here comes the red screen. I once had a really contrived scenario where one engine has an IDG fail and then at some point the other engine started on fire in flight. uh oh better pull that fire handle! *cockpit goes dark* Oh gently caress! Plausible? Not really, but it gets you to think a little before blindly following the QRH.
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Those error conditions remind me of MYX-9001 which is ridiculous from start to finish. https://avherald.com/h?article=4b57c3dd Basically they were doing touch and go’s in an A320 training a group of FOs and there was a flight control computer error that needed a reset each time they landed. This reset was allowed in procedures, but that was probably written with the implicit assumption that you wouldn’t be doing touch and go’s. Eventually this resulted in a crazy edge case where they lose both flight control computers: quote:
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Oct 26, 2023 04:37
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Whelp, after 13 years of service my A20’s aren’t working on most of the busses I plug them into. Rather than spend 300 on a new cable assembly for an old headset I ordered a Proflight 2. Forgive me, bank account, for I have sinned.
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There’s a couple Airbuses at UA that require an adapter for the A20s to work. But a lot of people have also just switched to the Proflights too. https://www.sportys.com/headphone-extension-cord-mono.html
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Oh good to know. I'll probably keep my order, I've been on and off looking for something lighter but I appreciate the lookout. My plan is to keep them for when I finally get back into GA. Any day now.
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Yo if we're talking about pilot gear it's new shoes time for me so what do yinz like for footwear that is Comfortable and breathable (obvs) TSA compliant because I can't stop getting randomed at KCM and won't fall apart in a year 300 dollars or less. Although if they're s tier I could go higher Danke arigato
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CBJSprague24 posted:Related, is it possible to restart engines after pulling the fire handles? As others have said above, it's aircraft-specific. The Hawker 800 has a mechanical lock to prevent the t-handle from accidentally being pushed back in, and the deploy fire bottle button runs the squib current through a fuse in the fire handle that disables the engine control circuit. So on that aircraft, after you pull the handle, the engine is physically starved of fuel and hydraulics, and popping the bottle removes all power to the nacelle entirely. I think the Learjets just have a fuel/hydraulic cutoff in the t-handle and you can discharge bottles at your whim, then push everything back in. None of the ones I worked on were FADEC, though. The FADEC Gulfstreams would allow in-air restart and didn't have any circuitry to monitor the fire system. I think it was some model of Falcon that would pay attention to the engine heat/fire detection system and derate the throttle which (according to the book) wouldn't allow enough fuel for an engine start. I would like to point out that in most planes, the fire bottles discharge onto the outside of the engine. The inside of the engine is designed to have fire in it, so they don't worry about it. The outside of the engine is where it's bad to have fire; the extinguishing agent sprays onto the fuel control, fuel/oil heat exchangers, oil pumps/filters, generators, etc..
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Arson Daily posted:Yo if we're talking about pilot gear it's new shoes time for me so what do yinz like for footwear that is https://us.ecco.com/ecco-mens-citytray-chelsea-boot-512804.html?dwvar_512804_color=01001#start=1 I have these and ariat roper boots. These are way more comfortable than the ropers. They’re pretty fashionable as well.
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My rockports look like Frankenstein shoes but they’re comfy and cost like 80 bucks!
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