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Netanyahu knows that Trump will let him do whatever the gently caress he wants, Trump has already said as much. He's got no interest in doing a single thing that benefits Biden.
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A.o.D. posted:Netanyahu knows that Trump will let him do whatever the gently caress he wants, Trump has already said as much. He's got no interest in doing a single thing that benefits Biden. Biden lets they do whatever they want too. Any american president will
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Elias_Maluco posted:Biden lets they do whatever they want too. Any american president will Yeah but one guy makes sad noises when the genocide happens and the other cheers it on.
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A drone struck Tel Aviv overnight, killing one. Houthis claimed responsibility. IDF staying true to form and not manning their warning systems. Hopefully the Israeli response focuses on the Houthis and they don't try to kick off another cycle of escalation with Iran directly.
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https://x.com/Ha_Matar/status/1817885626458337336quote:Right now: Israeli Military Police arrives at Sde Timan jail to arrest soldiers for rape and torture of Palestinian detainees. Soldiers on the scene are resisting the arrests, and several government ministers and MKs are on their way to support the soldiers against police https://x.com/ireallyhateyou/status/1817904053462196523 Content: Israeli politicians declaring that they're going on strike as long as their soldiers might ever be held responsible for any crimes they commit, in this case specifically: sexual abuse of prisoners. What a wretched piece of poo poo nation.
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It might be getting worse, if these accounts are accurate. https://twitter.com/briantashman/status/1817918813922299945
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Are there any even remotely normal people left in Israel? Place appears to be overflowing with deranged psychopaths.
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Jul 29, 2024 20:22
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Mustang posted:Are there any even remotely normal people left in Israel? As I recall it, it's roughly 5 to 10% of the population who vote for parties that support a two-state solution and no more war crimes.
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What is a Nukhba? Because it seems like the politician is insisting that the people being assaulted are not real people and thus not protected under the rule of law, thus reinforcing the fact that Israel is an Apartheid State and should be boycotted as such.
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Jul 29, 2024 20:26
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Per Wikipedia, 'Nukhba' (lit. 'elite') is the name of a Hamas special forces unit. Whether the prisoners actually fall under that category is unknown.
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Mustang posted:Are there any even remotely normal people left in Israel? War is a special human condition where anyone can become a psychopath. If Israelis weren't crazy before then Oct 7 made them so. In Palestine almost everybody thinks Hamas' attack was cool and good. Those on either side that even consider things like human rights come up with excuses as to why they don't apply. See now Hezbollah's attack in Golan that killed a bunch of kids. Now people are frothing at the mouth over that, with the government vowing a 'disproportionate' response. The people want blood, and I fear they're going to get it.
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"Okay, okay, I've got this one weird trick to get the ICJ off our back. Look, we can and do police our own genocidaires. You don't have jurisdiction because we are dealing with it ourselves." *Base gets stormed and overrun by fellow soldiers, civilians, and members of the cabinet* "...see? We are a nation of laws. Complementarity!"
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Count Roland posted:War is a special human condition where anyone can become a psychopath. Israelis were primarily voting for people that supported the war crimes against Palestinians even before the 7th of October, their military was committing these war crimes on an almost daily basis(albeit at a slightly slower rate), killings of civilians, random imprisonments, supporting Israeli civilians in casually murdering Palestinian civilians to steal their poo poo, etc.. Please don't try to excuse their deeply insane bullshit as "oh no, they're just horrified by war and the October 7th attacks! they're normal otherwise, honest!" Also trying to paint every Palestinian as a supporter of Hamas is legitimately a strange take as well, some truly bizarre attempt at moral equivalence between the people who have been murdered by an occupying power on a daily basis for close on a hundred years now, and the people of the occupying power doing said murdering.
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Yeah, among everything else, from the decades previous, Israelis were holding competitions to see who could shoot out the most knees of peaceful protesters in a day years before Oct. 7th. The winner got something like 50. It was reported in their press like The Hundred Man Killing Contest from WW2 Japan. Insanely evil cruelty is in no way a phenomenon that spontaneously appeared in Israeli society last year. It's what that country was founded on, and what it eats and drinks to sustain itself.
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PurpleXVI posted:Israelis were primarily voting for people that supported the war crimes against Palestinians even before the 7th of October, their military was committing these war crimes on an almost daily basis(albeit at a slightly slower rate), killings of civilians, random imprisonments, supporting Israeli civilians in casually murdering Palestinian civilians to steal their poo poo, etc.. Please don't try to excuse their deeply insane bullshit as "oh no, they're just horrified by war and the October 7th attacks! they're normal otherwise, honest!" Right, I'm not trying to summarize the good or badness of sides here. I was replying to a post that made Israel to be a nation of psychopaths. Which is pretty apt, really. I was stating that this is basically what war is, it's the condition where killing (or driving away) a people becomes normal. It was present before Oct 7, but was vastly increased since then. And yes it is of course present in Palestine too. Understandably so. This isn't a moral equivalency, I think Israel holds almost all the blame in this conflict. A majority of Palestinians approves of the slaughter on Oct 7 (this doesn't make them Hamas supporters). They also are a nation of psychopaths, simply because they've been in a state of war/occupation for a long time. I'm saying this is what war does, and what it feeds off of.
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Mustang posted:Are there any even remotely normal people left in Israel? at present there's a fair number of recent russian draft dodger emigres who maybe aren't fully subsumed into israel's political landscape. on the other hand... yeah okay probably not a bunch of peace and reconciliation activists in that cohort
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Having not seen this thread I had some hope that Israeli peace protesters had pulled something off. Headline: Israeli protesters enter army base after soldiers held over Gaza detainee abuse  Article: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2q07kd3ld6o quote:Israeli far-right protesters broke into an army base in a show of support for soldiers accused of severely mistreating a Palestinian prisoner there. 
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Looks like Israel just exploded something/someone in Beirut Israel says it targets senior Hezbollah commander in strike on Beirut https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/loud-blast-heard-lebanese-capital-beirut-reuters-witness-says-2024-07-30/ quote:The Israeli military said it carried out a targeted strike in Beirut on Tuesday against the Hezbollah commander it said was responsible for a strike in the Golan Heights that killed 12 children and teenagers at the weekend.
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Farking Bastage posted:Looks like Israel just exploded something/someone in Beirut https://twitter.com/Seamus_Malek/status/1818341564076134569
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I heard on the radio the other day that the Pentagon's acceptable collateral damage for a strike that would kill Saddam Hussein was 30 civilians. Israel doesn't seem to have an upper limit on civilian deaths or a lower limit on target value.
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Jul 30, 2024 19:21
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I read a number somewhere that quoted that same stat. It said Israel did have a number, 50, 100? I forget but it wasn't infinity.
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This photo must be from an odd angle. There's several photos up on Al Jazeera and the building is definitely still standing. Looks like a few apartments totally destroyed near the top or middle. One confirmed dead so far.
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The IRGC are saying he's dead as well. Not sure if they've said an air strike yet though. After the last stand off I can't see how allowing Israel to do an air strike in their territory without retaliation could be an option.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:The IRGC are saying he's dead as well. Not sure if they've said an air strike yet though. After the last stand off I can't see how allowing Israel to do an air strike in their territory without retaliation could be an option. The UK was able to ignore a Russian WMD strike inside their borders that killed UK citizens, I'm sure Lebanon could get past this if they really wanted to.
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Midjack posted:The UK was able to ignore a Russian WMD strike inside their borders that killed UK citizens, I'm sure Lebanon could get past this if they really wanted to. You mean the poisoning? It's hardly the same thing. Hezbollah will indeed respond but it could be just for show. The Hezbollah attack that killed those kids was probably an accident. I didn't think either side really wants escalation.
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Count Roland posted:I didn't think either side really wants escalation. The chief negotiator for Hamas has been assassinated at the Iranian Presidential Inauguration. I remember when "nuclear war in the holy land" was pure weirdo sci-fi.
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bloody ghost titty posted:The chief negotiator for Hamas has been assassinated at the Iranian Presidential Inauguration. Ok yeah I didn't realize an attack had happened inside Iran. I think Israel's right wing nuts definitively want to escalate with Iran in the hopes that the US joins in, smites their big enemy and turns a blind eye to expelling Palestinians. I don't think Hezbollah or Israel particularly want to go toe to toe with each other.
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Count Roland posted:Ok yeah I didn't realize an attack had happened inside Iran. There's got to be some story in the old testament about big bro telling little bro to cut it out with the bullshit but I fear it ends with family trumps all and big bro coming in to clean up little bro's mess
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Hey, boss? Let's meet at Starbucks next time instead.
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So apparently the guy killed was one of the ceasefire negotiators. Almost feels like this was on purpose.
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CommieGIR posted:So apparently the guy killed was one of the ceasefire negotiators. Almost feels like this was on purpose. A leader will be involved in both war and peace, yes. But yes the attack on Tehran seems gratuitous. Guaranteed to provoke a response while of questionable strategic value.
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Count Roland posted:A leader will be involved in both war and peace, yes. Well, questionable strategic value if your strategic aim is to end the fighting to prevent suffering and death. On the other hand if your goal is genocide it seems pretty straightforward.
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The US has said it would defend Israel if it ends up in a war with Iran. It feels like Israel can basically strike with impunity as long as that’s the case. I don’t think that the US made that commitment thinking that Israel would deliberately provoke Iran into a war, but, well…
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