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We got a name for this conflict yet? Yom Kippur 2 is a pretty good thematic fit.
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V glad we got that cleared up. Seems pretty cut and dry now.
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What’s hamas’s current reputation amongst the people of Gaza? Are they upset that they triggered an invasion? https://www.washingtoninstitute.org...port%20Fatah%20(64%25). (I half assed verifying this) Says that in July 70% of Gazans polled favored the PA taking administrative control. I wonder what has happened since then.
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What are the war goals of Israel? Are they attempting to grab Gaza city and hold it? I don’t think this would be that sustainable unless they expel or kill everyone there. Or are they just punching the drywall because of all the mass murder?
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Oct 13, 2023 13:56
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West Bank is still there and an ENTIRE Lebanon. https://youtu.be/rJBmKQpZ02k?si=l_cbujxw0gpaIvkJ
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Oct 14, 2023 01:36
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The amount of propaganda flooding every single media outlet is unreal. I've never seen it this bad before except maybe post 9-11. I don't feel like I can trust anything right now.
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Oct 14, 2023 14:36
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This may be the hottest take of the thread but I love YouTube premium. It’s the only streaming service I have.
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Oct 14, 2023 15:25
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drat. The us is insisting again that they earned Israel days before the attack. Someone hates Bibi over there
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Oct 14, 2023 22:40
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https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1714377828131553446 This is worth about as much as any other piece of info right now. (only a 85% chance it's disinfo)
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Oct 18, 2023 01:41
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That 500 dead number might be a bit inflated.
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Oct 18, 2023 11:40
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Yeah, propaganda houses have discovered it as a communications channel with the air of credibility.
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A (former) director at the state department posted:
They hated (and fired) him because he spoke the truth.
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Oct 19, 2023 16:37
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:Not that it's on the same level as all the civilians they've been murdering, but Israel also destroyed a 1400 year old mosque in Gaza yesterday. Im just impressed they built the thing before Muhammad was even dead.
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Oct 21, 2023 10:54
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Count Roland posted:I guess one way to get around citing sources is to just omit the image and tell people to use their imaginations. They showed a bunch of reporters unedited body cam footage from the terrorists chock full of horrors and gore to shock them into being okie-dokie with the upcoming horrors and gore of the ground campaign. Isn’t Abrahamic religion just the loving coolest? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:There's also that whole thing of cutting water, power, food and fuel. Focusing on the hospital is missing the forest for the trees. Right on. Isn’t food water and medicine interference prohibited by the Geneva convention? Why can’t we apply international law to hamas as well? Apart from the terrorist attack, they’re still yeeting rockets toward civilians which has to violate targeting rules. Aren’t these guys just chilling in Qatar? I’d just like to see everyone in jail, please.
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Thank you. In that case, how should Israel be proceeding in this war? Just to be abundantly clear, I’m not trying to play devils advocate; their actions are monstrous. I’m just curious what the “right way” would look like. Just better targeting for the sources of the rocket attacks?
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quote:All it takes is a willingness to neither purge Palestinians from their homeland nor legally treat them as second class citizens. It's functionally free. I agree with you on first steps but I think you’re underestimating how deep the hatred of Jews goes in the Levant. This same story has played itself out thousands of times already but with swords and sticks instead of precision guided munitions and ultralights. The solution to this has to come from both sides just like the blame lies on both sides. There’s just too much generational violence to have it any other way.
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Oct 27, 2023 11:10
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PurpleXVI posted:I'm going to vehemently disagree here. Even if you ignore the actual history of the conflict, when there's this huge a power disparity and the Palestinians have absolutely tried every peaceful way to resolve things, the responsibility for ceasing the violence is entirely with the Israelis. Now, if Israel gave all the stolen land back, put some IDF personnel, politicians and settlers in war crimes courts for what they've done, paid some reparations to get the Palestinians back on their feet, and the Palestinians still lobbed rockets at them? Yes, I'd agree, equal blame on both sides. But that's not where things stand. That’s a pretty assured position you have on a improbable hypothetical. I just don’t see how it would reverse 4000 years of religious violence. I don’t have any better ideas, though. So it’s probably the right way to proceed.
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Thanks, I just want the problem fixed and have no clue on how to achieve it.
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Oct 27, 2023 15:02
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Maybe we could convince everyone to convert to Baha’i?
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Oct 27, 2023 15:21
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:gently caress this.
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Nov 3, 2023 08:56
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Apparently a ceasefire is contingent on the return of hostages. That’s coming from Bibi so take it with a grain of salt. I’m no Hamas expert but that’s not going to happen, is it?
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Hamas taking a page out of the trump handbook: “nuh-uh” Hamas leader refuses to acknowledge killing of civilians in Israel https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67321241 Unrelated, but if Israel offered a ceasefire, would they even take it? A strategic victory is basically impossible and they seem totally ok with producing as many martyrs as possible. Why even cease fire at all? At least Hamas and the IDF can agree on one thing: gently caress civilians.
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Beefeater1980 posted:I have never seen anything to suggest that either Hamas or Israel care so much about international opinion that they would sacrifice tangible, real world things in Gaza or the West Bank to affect it. I just don’t believe the PR tail is wagging the dog. Instead I think they do what they do for reasons that make sense to them - not us - that are rooted in their daily lives and local conditions and them try and spin whatever happens in whatever way is most advantageous. Iran cares a lot. And if Iran cares, Hamas cares. It’s their whole strategy. E:I’m gonna walk that back some. I think that Iran is an important force in Hamas decision making and I suspect they are providing the bulk of their propaganda channels. Borscht fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Nov 11, 2023 |
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Platystemon posted:Isn’t intermittent flow like this a nightmare for water treatment? Like, separately from the sanitation issues of having limited amounts of water stored for days in jury rigged tanks in each home, if there isn’t consistently enough water flowing through the mains, the chlorine cannot do its job. This is the norm for huge portions of the world. It’s not great but cities have operated for decades in see these exact conditions without constant cholera outbreaks. The expectation of anything but constant running water being unacceptably dangerous is a very western idea to me and I’ve personally lived in two different countries where it’s not only the norm but somewhat of a luxury to get anything more than 2 hours of “pipe” a day.
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mlmp08 posted:There is a difference between lack of clean water due to decades long infrastructure problems in undeveloped areas and Israel’s deliberate cutting of supplies like food and water to Gaza as a policy. Not sure what you’re responding to in my post but yeah I agree with you.
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McNally posted:This argument only works if that was the norm in Palestine before Israel cut them off. Not at all the point I was trying to make. I’m just trying to say that from a public health and technical perspective, intermittent plumbing isn’t catastrophic, it’s just not ideal. In no way was I attempting to justify the targeting of civilian infrastructure like water systems. The 1 million displaced civilians were presumably unable to bring their water tanks or buckets or whatever with them so they’re in some real trouble regardless of if the system is working even intermittently.
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So is the ceasefire and hostage swap Biden's work? That's pretty impressive if he managed to pull it off.
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What’s the bottom line on bibi’s popularity right now at home? Is he turbo hosed now or have they gone all post 9/11 on us?
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“Double deuce”
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Why the gently caress is America financing this poo poo?
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Dance Officer posted:You must be new here It’s just that usually America expects some quid pro its quo. Israel just seems like a hole for >$3.8 billion a year and all Americans seem to get in return is terrorism, refugees, and bad press.
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As oppressed as the Houthi’s are, they put their desire to commit genocide right on their flag.
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“I dunno guys, I mean the antisemitism of ‘a curse on the Jews’ is a little ambiguous. It could mean like: dang or shoot.”
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A guy just committed perfidy in a wheelchair and all you people want to talk about is boats.
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Even if they’re right about the territory being occupied, then the International Human Rights Law would apply there and the assassination itself would be illegal.
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I bet it’s Phillip Morris. Sales of Marlboros have tanked since canal traffic had dried up.
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That’s a slow boat that takes three weeks to get to the Gaza Strip from Cyprus and the pier has been up for like, two weeks now. This article says the first load was 200 tons. https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-news-03-15-2024-d4e2f9ed525914233e4cf16c217f5248 Isreal is helping by rapidly decreasing the civilian population so that what aide gets through can go further.
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Gotcha. I’m surprised that they were allowed to do that. I wonder why that one charity has permission and not others. According to that ship tracker website, the vessel is sitting at port in Cyprus since it returned so it’s definitely not going to be making the trip with any regularity.
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drat Israel, just because you Quds, doesn’t mean you should(s).
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