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Hi friends, I am back from a terrible day and I am looking forward to going to the ball with my best beau shwinn... so we cannot kill him today, sorry.
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# ? May 19, 2025 06:54 |
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Wologar sent me a message right before the day ended yesterday asking how I felt about grandi and sandwolf, I think he was starting to think they were maybe scummy. I replied that Sandwolf seemed to be laying pretty low as far as being vocal about cases and grandi was even more so, so I can see either of them being scum
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I am having a hard time figuring out why shwinn would have lied about hiding, but I am not sure that claim-state at the time he did so , and if there was anyone outside of RWC who could have potentially tried to visit and blow up the claim. If you think he's lying than it would seem RWC would have to be scum with him and I am just having a hard time seeing why they feel the need to go all-in fake-claiming together there. Seems too risky to me
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I appreciate the humor in cube shooting keats for sure, but in every way that just seems like a scum move. Buuuuuuut there is the YPM thing, that would be a weird spot to blow up a scumbro unless the scumteam was in disarray from the meen hammer and YPM was like bus me for super town cred and ride it to the end. I dunno, I won't rule cube out as scum entirely but probably better places to look today
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I really dislike the TMor vote by the end of that day and I bet scum were happy to get on that. I think it was Sandwolf who was like "NO WAY WOULD YOU WANT VANILLA AS BACKUP ROLE" but doesn't blink an eye when Pmuzz basically claims the same thing. (I consider the backup choice of "just give me whoever has cool flavor" on the same level as saying just give me vanilla)
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Hal Incandenza posted:I think it was Sandwolf who was like "NO WAY WOULD YOU WANT VANILLA AS BACKUP ROLE" but doesn't blink an eye when Pmuzz basically claims the same thing. (I consider the backup choice of "just give me whoever has cool flavor" on the same level as saying just give me vanilla) TMor chose vanilla for his second choice. That is what I found extremely suspicious. I chose Messenger for my second choice, not vanilla. I merely said that if the esteemed hosts prefers, they could choose humor over randomness if I ended up with a backup.
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PhantomMuzzles posted:TMor chose vanilla for his second choice. That is what I found extremely suspicious. I chose Messenger for my second choice, not vanilla. I merely said that if the esteemed hosts prefers, they could choose humor over randomness if I ended up with a backup. ohhh well ok then!
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I still don't like it though! I think Keane had first pick in a WIFOA and took vanilla one time. Did anyone murder him??? (probably)
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Rhymes With Clue posted:I thought you got redirected/had your results messed with N1 My results got stolen by Wol yeah but no redirection or anything like that, best I can tell.
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Sorry about your bad day Hal, but at least you have a dance partner. I guess I will just stay home with my knitting, as usual! Now let's just think for a minute here that perhaps as some have suggested the setup here is fire & ice. I mean, of course that would be ridiculouslly overcomplicated but hear me out. In such a case, both scum teams would know it from the outset. In such a case, Iggy might not have been partners with Muse and therefore might not have known Muse was a bomb; Cube could be partnered with Iggy and not with Muse, and therefore is free to go after Muse. And everybody has to scumhunt--which could explain a lot. Cube shot without particularly caring who he was shooting, as long as it wasn't someone on his team. Day 1 Cube votes EGalz (town), Hal (??), wologar (town), and ends on birdstrike (town) Day 2 Cube votes Muse (scum) Day 3 Cube votes wologar (town, again) and Tired Moritz (town) Day 4 Cube votes shwinn, shoots Keats Cube has not voted for me, Grandicap, Phantom, Iggy, or Sandwolf Okay this is ridiculously overcomplicated, yes--but where are we again?
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Rhymes With Clue posted:Sorry about your bad day Hal, but at least you have a dance partner. I guess I will just stay home with my knitting, as usual! I mean I guess it isn't THAT complicated, I don't know if I have ever seen two teams just called "SCUM" before but doesn't mean it couldn't happen.
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Sandwolf posted:I will explain this after game (I didn’t) What?
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CubicalSucrose posted:Okay catching up after work but I don't see how Mycelia has a Hide when they supposedly targeted me N1. Okay maybe this is me going galaxy-brain. But doing some endgame math. 7 alive now, 5 / 2 mis-elim is 4 / 2 NK is 3 / 2 If it's shwinn+RwC and they DO have a vig, they win. So we're possibly in mis-elim-and-lose territory right now. Unless Shwinn actually got a Hide somehow, which I don't see. Sand's posts about their role are pinging me.
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CubicalSucrose posted:Okay maybe this is me going galaxy-brain. But doing some endgame math. Did we decide it was impossible to get from Mycella?
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Hal Incandenza posted:Did we decide it was impossible to get from Mycella? I think it's most likely that Mycelia visited me on N1, based on their D2 post. I think it's almost definitely true that Mycelia did NOT visit Sand (the actual Hider) on N1, given Keats/Sand N1 interaction, strongly suggesting that Sand actually Hid on N1.
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Hal Incandenza posted:Did we decide it was impossible to get from Mycella? I am almost certain that mycelia robbed sand n1, and I was given their hide upon their death
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CubicalSucrose posted:I think it's most likely that Mycelia visited me on N1, based on their D2 post. Could they not have visited Sand N2 and got a hider and then died right after? I mean I’d love to think it’s shwinn and RWC and it’s that easy but it seems rather misplayed if it was to tie themselves together like that. Unless it’s the vig thing you mentioned and they just have to survive the day. But when Keats was still alive that would have meant two days even with the extra vig
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Feeling good about Hal I’m definitely still sand -> grandi -> rwc Cube is an outside chance
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Hal Incandenza posted:I still don't like it though! Keane also made a point to announce he was doing that and has done so in every WIFOA since
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That vig shot. With 8 players, do you risk shooting a teammate? If you are town, and don't know your teammates? I don't care how much they're needling you. ##vote Cube
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shwinnebego posted:I am almost certain that mycelia robbed sand n1, and I was given their hide upon their death No I should have been untargetable on n1
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Alright turning brain off ##vote Shwin if it’s Grandi or Hal I’ll be fuckin’ rustled
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Hal Incandenza posted:Could they not have visited Sand N2 and got a hider and then died right after? Oh, Hider from Sand N2 is a good thought actually. Resolution order assumptions, but fair. Survive 2 days unless I mis-shoot. It's probably not unlikely that I shoot today. But with the Myc N2 thing, the Shwinn case isn't as good as it looked earlier today.
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Rhymes With Clue posted:I tried to voyeur Shwinn but he was hiding so it failed. Who did you try and share your gossip to? Would the whiffed action stop the gossip as well?
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CubicalSucrose posted:Who did you try and share your gossip to? Would the whiffed action stop the gossip as well? the whiffed action stopped the gossip. It would have been shared with you.
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Rhymes With Clue posted:##vote shwinn Rhymes With Clue posted:##unvote I dunno this still looks bad. Like trying to avoid being linked together. Then once a cleaner explanation for Shwinn + RwC comes out, starts to flail. I guess there's a chance it's RwC but not Shwinn? That seems less likely to me, but could explain the hesitation in revealing results today.
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CubicalSucrose posted:I dunno this still looks bad. Like trying to avoid being linked together. I doubted shwinn's hider claim, first because my results were worded differently than when I tried to target Sandwolf (who said he was hiding, and the result sure sounded that way). And then because, you know, where did shwinn get hider? But yeah, a cleaner explanation appeared. I don't 100% buy it but I also don't completely reject it.
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Results in first case were basically that I couldn't find him, in the second case (shwinn) that my action just failed.
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Rhymes With Clue posted:I doubted shwinn's hider claim, first because my results were worded differently than when I tried to target Sandwolf (who said he was hiding, and the result sure sounded that way). And then because, you know, where did shwinn get hider? This doesn’t really line up with what you’ve done in thread The very first thing you said was that you couldn’t visit shwinn because he was hiding, nothing about weird results or even suspicion. At another point you even said well the hide could be from mycella When there was more heat on shwinn you voted there just saying you doubted the claim but no reason given why, and then you unvote again in your next post. You then tried to generate suspicion a few other places without much traction before coming back around to shwinn and only now do you mention the different result Maybe it is you as scum without shwinn
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Oh I was slightly off, you agreed with the pirate possibility after you unvoted. It’s still suspicious to me you didn’t reveal the result language discrepancy before now though
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I find it somewhat suspect that, though this is a Ball and we are here primarily to dance, some attendees were rather lax in attempting to secure partners. After my original dance partner Keats was dragged away from me while we waited by the dance floor, I had assumed that all other partners had been spoken for. However, my mother impressed upon me the importance of participating in the dancing, so I set about to find a new partner. As an intelligent person, I did so systematically, alphabetically. And to my surprise, there was still one available! I began by asking Cube to dance, and was informed they already had a partner. Next I asked Grandicap, and to my great delight they accepted! Now what gives me pause: it would appear that very early in the day, Keats and I became dance partners, and Hal and Shwinn became dance partners. Assuming RWC is telling the truth about being single, that means that at some point, Cube and Sandwolf became partners. So why, I ask myself, did Grandicap and RWC not ask each other to dance? They had plentiful time to do so. Could it be they did not see a point in doing so, because perhaps they already have a secret wicked dalliance? Furthermore, I asked Grandicap to dance less than ten minutes before RWC first posted about being still single. Could it be that Grandicap informed RWC of my invitation in their secret wicked conversation? Despite my suspicions, I would still prefer not to vote for Grandicap because I am excited to dance with them. However, I am becoming more and more suspicious of RWC.
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Votecount for Day 4![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() With 7 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is November 03rd, 2023 at 10 p.m. CET -- that's in about 5 hours, 29 minutes.
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Sandwolf posted:No I should have been untargetable on n1 *n2
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Where the heck is grandi
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I’m gonna go with my heart ##vote RWC I’d be ok with grandi probably or Sandwolf, would vote shwinn if I had to
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I keep forgetting phantom, but I get mostly town vibes there right now
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Hal Incandenza posted:I’m gonna go with my heart ##vote RWC I think I'm either RwC or Shwinn today.
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No. I should have been untargetable on N1. I can’t hide every night.
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I exist, just dealing with life stuff at the moment. I don't think id lurk this badly as scum, but maybe if my team wasn't really in danger. I still think it's shwinn. Pmuzz and rwc are the only other two id consider voting at this time.
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# ? May 19, 2025 06:54 |
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Hal Incandenza posted:I keep forgetting phantom 💔
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