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PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

shwinnebego posted:

are there any popular movies or tv series that are secretly jane austen adaptations like how the lion king and a million other things are hamlet

Clueless

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PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.
At one point in Clueless, Cher says "Everything I think and everything I do is wrong." and I think of that every time I play one of these mafia games ❤️

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.
I watched Emma and the first third of Persuasion last night. Maybe Clueless can be next in queue for me :)

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

YOU DON'T EVEN GO HERE

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.
*stares off into distance with a pouty frown*

I think a ball is a perfectly irrational way to gain new acquaintance solve a murder. If would be better if conversation scum hunting, instead of dancing, were the order of the day.

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.
I must admit I submitted 8,9 because I knew that my recreational preferences lied not in which specific character to embody, but in the embodiment itself. I mistakenly believed 'twould not achieve high results. I was loathe to imagine robbing another of an opportunity they prized, so I opted to choose my favorite flavor of ice cream.

*resumes playing piano loudly and poorly*

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

CubicalSucrose posted:

Pretty sure we should all full-claim today because this setup is much more scum-favored vs prior WIFOAs (at least vs the one I referenced when I was trying to understand the vote/draft system).

I threw this spreadsheet together while I was deciding which numbers to submit.

NOTE: Discord-hosted image links (like this one) expire approximately 24hrs after they were copied from Discord.

I wanted to pick like 3rd or 4th but that didn't work.

Grandi is NOT the Gossiping Voyeur, someone else is. Someone (not me) is a Jailer but I can't narrow it down any more than that.

Pray tell, good Sir/Madam, what meaning is held by numbers in the "Town" and "Scum" columns?

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

Hal Incandenza posted:

Hark!

I blocked the scum from getting the PGO, so don't visit me townsfolk

Ah yes, a kindred spirit! One who enjoys pleasant alone time for quiet contemplation, and prefers it to boisterous interruptions of frivolity. I do hope you find enjoyment in reaching the end of this ball by the trust of your neighbors alone, thoroughly unexamined by any.

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

wologar posted:

If it isn't Lady Moth! I didn't know you could taste numbers.

Greetings, Fair Wolo! Might I interest you in some delightful pianoforte music? I can play most hymns and slow, drab songs.

*begins to sing loud enough that everyone has trouble hearing each other*

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

wologar posted:

There was a composition my nan used to love, Apple Bottom Jeans. Could I ask you to sing it?

*immediately strides to louder pianoforte and clears throat*

Fair maiden's garb did flatter her form,
particularly below her belt.
Her outfit was far from considered the norm,
her footwear bedecked with pelts.
The crowd did gasp and gaze upon her,
As she descended to the dance floor.
Her descent continued before their eyes,
Fair maiden could descend no more.

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

Tired Moritz posted:

someone stole the role I wanted ;-;

'Twas not I! For indeed that was the precise reaction I did not hope to elicit.

Some may call me plain, or say I smell of orchids or beans, but I am unperturbed by these musings. I do not concern myself highly with what others think of me. I am proud, but not vain.

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

birdstrike posted:

okay I admit it I’ve not read austen

Nor have I, though I do hear tell one of her works bears remarkable similarities to events in my own family. Though surely if someone were to write about our family they would not focus on my beautiful, clever, or charming sisters, but rather on me. The other one.

*pulls out a book and begins reading, stifling any further chances at interesting conversation*

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

Johnny Keats posted:

Anyway I think massclaiming picks is a bad idea but I would be down for a similar idea I saw players do in some Blood on the Clocktower videos I watched (which is an open setup game), where you trade lists of 3 roles where one of those roles is your actual claim.

The role which one might suitably refer to a lady of my standing would be amongst the following:

Bean, French, Extract

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

Johnny Keats posted:

I'm thinking about what information advantage scum can have on us right now. It exists, but is it enough that dumping town info in thread would make it closer to equal?

Assuming an equal distribution of scum in the list, but I don't think that factors in that much.

If scum all got powers, they know that nobody else in the game has those powers (same as anybody else in the game, but they get the info x4). If any of them didn't get their first pick roles, or didn't get either of their picks, they have a small slice of players they know that power went to. I think scum can have the maximum possible info if they all got their 2nd picks so let's assume that. They'd know clumps of players with (if they coordinated) 4 unique roles.

I think for us to claim anything, even a couple players, would give this theoretical scum team even more of an advantage to analyze the draft, while town would not gain enough context to make sense of it

I would also be disinclined to encourage wanton sharing of privileged information. Such frivolity shall not be abided amongst civilized folk such as ourselves. Although I do recognize I have been uncharacteristically forthcoming with my own communications, it is only because I have hoped to adopt a more congenial tone here.

*badly plays a Christmas hymn in April and scowls at anyone who sings along*

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

CubicalSucrose posted:

This is a reasonable stance. One thing I have seen scum teams do though (Galaxy Space or whatever the Crab game recently was) is try and retrospectively align their fakeclaims and actions. This is always easier to do in a way that's consistent with the game state if they haven't claimed yet. By keeping town roles hidden longer, we keep the fakeclaim window longer. They already have better knowledge about which roles are "open" vs not. Locking them in early eliminates future wiggle-room late game. I think that's a worthwhile trade-off.

But do pray tell, is there not a single list, which has been distributed amongst all of us? So too do these nefarious folk of which you speak not simply have "fakeclaims" but professions which could suitably exist amongst the wicked and the just. Hence divulging this information may not conclusively provide us with actionable knowledge, but would indisputably do so for the wicked.

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.
Or select me for a duel, and I shall share a visual recording of me performing a song on the instrument I currently possess that is least dissimilar to a pianoforte (a melodica)

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

CubicalSucrose posted:

Duelist was confirmed to be a 1-shot this is a waste of a vig.

Alas, in my haste to share my remarkable talents I had forgotten this point

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

birdstrike posted:

ive turned into hal I’m on a plane

I am unfamiliar with this word, which is rare for me as I am extremely well-read.

*continues reading my very large book, but glances up occasionally to see if anyone is noticing how quickly I can read*

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.
*smiles, for the first time in memory. Then remembers she's serious and frowns aloofly*

Thank you kindly but I simply do not concern myself with the opinions of others.

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

Grandicap posted:

She does this every ball, don't give her the satisfaction of noticing.

Harumph.

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

CubicalSucrose posted:

There are (slightly) more roles than players. Plus the alternates.

Scum still have some reasonable viable options lategame. "Oh this was a backup role and it's useless and I didn't claim earlier because I wanted scum to WIFOM and maybe knock me out. I originally submitted (two roles that have flipped or already been conclusively proven)."

I still see little reason why a wicked person could not speak plainly and honestly about their identity, should the occasion to do so arise, for the identity alone is not inherently incriminating in most cases.

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.
Were I to receive correspondence, I would not publicly reveal anything which may be privileged. That is, assuming the messenging individual were as intellectual as myself, for I much prefer intelligent conversation above drivel about money and husbands.

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

birdstrike posted:

now I am a plane

oh no I’ve turned into busb

Which of your friends shall you be bussing?

*She laughs at her own remarkable wit. How she is not considered the clever sister is beyond her.*

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.
It seems as though conversation has dwindled, which is precisely what I predicted would happen during a ball. Is everyone off dancing? How very droll.

I suggest we have a game. But not a lively one, for I do abhor liveliness. Which of your fellow ball attendees would you wish to...

-know better, accomplished via nocturnal investigation?

-engage in a private discussion, separate from the distractions of the crowd?

-uninvite from these festivities?

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

shwinnebego posted:

I would sleuthily espy the sordid after-dark activities of Pmuzz

*She alerts, as someone is speaking about her for the first time in her life. So often overlooked, it is now time for her to shine as the INTERESTING SISTER!*

After dark, I daresay I truly come alive. I drink a lukewarm cup of milk, and recite my prayers loudly enough such that my younger sisters may overhear and consider their own behavior shameful. I sleep wearing a beige turtleneck.

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

birdstrike posted:

any gogol fans in the house?

Naturally I am familiar with his works, as I am extremely well-read, obviously.

*Immediately continues "reading" her book, hoping to avoid any follow-up questions, as she definitely hasn't read anything from Gogol*

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

Grandicap posted:

Speaking openly about what your sleepwear! So uncouth. And you try and present yourself as a respectable young woman... It's no wonder you lack suitors.

*Sits up straighter and looks ashamed*

I daresay I lack suitors because I have not yet met my match for intellect and skill. And no less due to men's baffling preference for women with beauty, grace, or congeniality. One would think 'twould not be so difficult to seek a man who prefers unsalted potatoes, staring off into the distance, and silence (interrupted only by extremely loud unasked-for music).

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

CubicalSucrose posted:

*checks post counts*

Is EGalz here?

##vote EGalz

OOC: EGalz has had an incredibly busy last couple days because we're opening the bar/cafe part of the funeral home escape room today and opening another new room next week. But I know she was excited about this game and should have time in the next day or so

*slumps head down suddenly, then raises it again*

My heavens, I don't know what came over me just then. What was I saying? Ah yes I like books.

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

Grandicap posted:

wologar seems to have excess if you are in to that type of thing.

Salacious!

*Does not react in any way because she does not get the joke. Continues staring straight forward at a blank wall.*

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

wologar posted:

Keats needs you in more games.

Indeed, Sir Keats was uncharacteristically against the terrible plan in this instance.

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

mycelia posted:

hey I heard there's a cask of Amon-whatever in the basement, anyone wanna come spelunking with me while everyone else is distracted with the dead body?

It is concerning to me that one would so brazenly attempt to lure someone into what would appear to be a trap...

*sips on the Amontillado that's literally right here*

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

Sandwolf posted:

Funeral home escape room???

OOC: yeah that's where EGalz and I work. It's a bar/cafe and a bunch of escape rooms in an old mortuary. She manages the location and does awesome marketing stuff, while I just build some dumb poo poo

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

Grandicap posted:

That is super cool, I hope we both die so we can talk about it in spec chat.

I daresay I hope for the latter but not the former...

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

wologar posted:

I decline all declarations of archnemesishood. The only thing that fills my heart is love.

Love is for simpletons.

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

Hal Incandenza posted:

Where is this located? I’m totally checking it out

OOC: St. Paul, Minnesota! If you visited we'd have so much fun showing you around and also we could play games in person!!!

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

CubicalSucrose posted:

I threw this spreadsheet together while I was deciding which numbers to submit.

NOTE: Discord-hosted image links (like this one) expire approximately 24hrs after they were copied from Discord.

I wanted to pick like 3rd or 4th but that didn't work.

birdstrike posted:

I say this from a place of fun and respect but hal I don’t think you or most people put that much thought into picking a role ##vote hal


I believe the level of forethought exhibited by various attendees may vary significantly.

I also might suggest that Hal's defense makes logical sense to me. Birdstrike's antagonism toward Hal feels like a wicked person recognizing a public vote is their only opportunity to rid themselves of one so paranoid as Hal.

##vote Birdstrike

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

Johnny Keats posted:

I think this is scum Cube as well for staying robotic with his votes so late into the game

Late?

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

Johnny Keats posted:

Leaving aside the meta of it all because that's just where the vibes were found, Cube's vote on Hal is overexplained and he has weird tunnel-vision on that without even calling Hal scum or analyzing his alignment

In my first foray into playing mafia attending balls, there was a paranoid attendee, who acknowledged as such. The other attendees said we had no choice but to vote to uninvite them from the ball, since the only way for them to exit was during daylight. I am not suggesting we uninvite Hal (...yet?), but if we have other suspicions of him later, it does seem like a reasonable course of action. However, since the invitations to this ball were publicly known, I do surmise that affects our actions.

PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.

Johnny Keats posted:

There might be a charging vig in the game (wink wink) so

*Tries to wink but just blinks intead*

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PhantomMuzzles
Jun 23, 2022

It's a puzzle.
It surprises me that someone might enlist for a "ridiculously overcomplicated" strategy game, and then leave important decisions up to random chance without thought. But I am an intellectual, you see.

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