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fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Yeah so this ultimately comes down to what you think Baba has:

1: Jugg kill, passive ability to see all night actions [TPC]
2: Ability to both kill and roleblock every night (also Huma telling truth about redirect targets) [Me]
3: Ability to kill and a niche search action for, presumably, a bonus kill [Rwc]

In addition to a partner who is a Watcher/Ninjafier/Godfatherizer remember. I think 3 is by far the most likely.

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fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Or i guess hosed up PMuzz/NeverHelm results but we don't have any particular reason to believe that's the case so I'm discarding it for now.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
But yeah TPC does not require double actions if they're lying about their claimed power being active.

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

fool of sound posted:

But yeah TPC does not require double actions if they're lying about their claimed power being active.

Technically Josef would not need a double action if the potions were actually poison

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.





Grimey Drawer
"transform" is the killing action, if hum is to be believed

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

Genuine question: if I were actually Baba, why would I admit to being blocked by fool instead of lying and saying he didn't block me. Then I could post a fabricated list saying "there was a kill but no freeze", framing him and supporting my argument by using hum's claim that he was miscleared due to a misdirect. That seems like the path of least resistance were I actually Town hostile.

Plus in this scenario where I pull the kill but no freeze trick, like Cube has been saying, I could just use the partial list excuse as wiggle room when fool flips town

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

JosefStalinator posted:

"transform" is the killing action, if hum is to be believed

Oh that's right I forgot about the bulletproof testimony of scum

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

Tea Party Crasher posted:

Genuine question: if I were actually Baba, why would I admit to being blocked by fool instead of lying and saying he didn't block me. Then I could post a fabricated list saying "there was a kill but no freeze", framing him and supporting my argument by using hum's claim that he was miscleared due to a misdirect. That seems like the path of least resistance were I actually Town hostile.

Plus in this scenario where I pull the kill but no freeze trick, like Cube has been saying, I could just use the partial list excuse as wiggle room when fool flips town

This plan would have the additional benefit of not relying on "So and so has to have two actions for this to be possible"

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

what a cool dude

JosefStalinator posted:

YPM and RWC have I made TPC suffer enough yet

you've made me suffer

fool of sound posted:

Yeah so this ultimately comes down to what you think Baba has:

1: Jugg kill, passive ability to see all night actions [TPC]
2: Ability to both kill and roleblock every night (also Huma telling truth about redirect targets) [Me]
3: Ability to kill and a niche search action for, presumably, a bonus kill [Rwc]

In addition to a partner who is a Watcher/Ninjafier/Godfatherizer remember. I think 3 is by far the most likely.

I 100% believe the SK has a jugg kill due to the doctor and a passive ability.

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.





Grimey Drawer

Your Personal Muse posted:

you've made me suffer


good

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Tea Party Crasher posted:

Genuine question: if I were actually Baba, why would I admit to being blocked by fool instead of lying and saying he didn't block me. Then I could post a fabricated list saying "there was a kill but no freeze", framing him and supporting my argument by using hum's claim that he was miscleared due to a misdirect. That seems like the path of least resistance were I actually Town hostile.

Plus in this scenario where I pull the kill but no freeze trick, like Cube has been saying, I could just use the partial list excuse as wiggle room when fool flips town

Genuineish answer: You need at least two miselims, I think. So in the world where you do take that strategy and you're BY and FoS flips town, then...what next? You're cooked the next day. It's the path of least resistance but only for a day and doesn't win, probably.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Tea Party Crasher posted:

Technically Josef would not need a double action if the potions were actually poison

Yeah but to my great chagrin Josef is cleared by tracker

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage

JosefStalinator posted:

YPM and RWC have I made TPC suffer enough yet

Hey you're the doc. TPC claimed to be sick. You decide.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

fool of sound posted:

Yeah so this ultimately comes down to what you think Baba has:

1: Jugg kill, passive ability to see all night actions [TPC]
2: Ability to both kill and roleblock every night (also Huma telling truth about redirect targets) [Me]
3: Ability to kill and a niche search action for, presumably, a bonus kill [Rwc]

In addition to a partner who is a Watcher/Ninjafier/Godfatherizer remember. I think 3 is by far the most likely.

I think 1 is more likely. But sure, reasonable people can disagree.

The only thing giving me pause about the jugg kill was Hum's unkillability, which seems like an awkward mod situation. Definitely ways to work around it.

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.





Grimey Drawer

Rhymes With Clue posted:

Hey you're the doc. TPC claimed to be sick. You decide.

okay fine lets put them down

inshallah it ends the game

##vote TeaPartyCrasher

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

RWC if I flip town, who would be your next best bet for Baba yaga. Feel free to scummily dodge the question by saying it's definitely you

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.





Grimey Drawer
:redhammer:

shwinnebego
Jul 11, 2002


TPC was removed Day 7

TPC was...



You are Davy, a gypsy from the community outside town. Your people are reviled by the bigoted townsfolk, who suspect you of being shapeshifters and werewolves. Still, considering the greater evils that plague the valley, you are TOWN-aligned.

The truth is...you ARE a shapeshifter and a werewolf! At night, you can attempt to ##stalk the grounds and receive a partial list of actions taken tonight


24 hours for night actions

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.





Grimey Drawer
lol

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

I think it's FoS then. But also...gently caress.

YPM hasn't flavorclaimed, I think.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

I'm going to assume no mod errors.

Hypothesis: FoS charged up "Kill" actions N1 and N2.

Mr. Humalong posted:


is this correct?

real gamers know I'm humble town

N5: freeze, transform, track, seer, give healing potion, charm and search
No Kill on N5, even though Hum was still alive.

Santa with a BP doesn't make sense. Santa roleblocking doesn't really make sense. I should've stuck with the flavorclaim being off.

Baba Yaga with a BP does make sense as a 3P SK.

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

what a cool dude
I'm Domovoi get off my back

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

what a cool dude
no i don't know who Domovoi is

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.





Grimey Drawer

Your Personal Muse posted:

I'm Domovoi get off my back

which one

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

what a cool dude

the town one

but to actually answer the question, i'm just "a" spirit.

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.





Grimey Drawer
what color is your character, I ask, racistly

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage
Well poo poo. Town is hosed, right?

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.





Grimey Drawer

Rhymes With Clue posted:

Well poo poo. Town is hosed, right?

eh not yet

though if they do have a jugg and kill me tonight, thats not great

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

JosefStalinator posted:

eh not yet

though if they do have a jugg and kill me tonight, thats not great

Buddy stop loving telling scum who you’re going to protect

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

what a cool dude

fool of sound posted:

Buddy stop loving telling scum who you’re going to protect

It’s fine I got us covered

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

fool of sound posted:

Buddy stop loving telling scum who you’re going to protect

WIFOM much? It's not even clear if JS can self-doc.

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.





Grimey Drawer

fool of sound posted:

Buddy stop loving telling scum who you’re going to protect

:wink:

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Your Personal Muse posted:

It’s fine I got us covered

Baba will just kill you or cube (or burn my BP) instead. Josef literally get a die and roll randomly for who you protect.

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.





Grimey Drawer

fool of sound posted:

Baba will just kill you or cube (or burn my BP) instead. Josef literally get a die and roll randomly for who you protect.

no

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

CubicalSucrose posted:

WIFOM much? It's not even clear if JS can self-doc.

Josef already told scum exactly when they should kill the seer and tracker by overclaiming

shwinnebego
Jul 11, 2002


Josef Stalinator was removed from play in the night

He was...



You are Dr. Cranium, TOWN-aligned Doctor. Yep, you're a crazed Dr. Brain style intellectual property inside spoof. Anachronistic and fuera de plazo, in mafia terms you're a regular old doctor! Choose at target (other than yourself) to protect at night. You may not protect the same player twice in a row. your night action command is ##give healing potion to [player], since that's how the guy works in the game

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
Votecount for Day 8



Not Voting (4): CubicalSucrose, fool of sound, Rhymes With Clue, Your Personal Muse

With 4 alive, it's 3 votes to execute. The current deadline is January 06th, 2024 at 4:18 p.m. EST -- that's in about 1 day, 23 hours.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Lmao goddamn it joe

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

With exactly 4 left, assuming a single anti-town left, I think it's right to no-elim, correct?

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fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
I froze cube just in case the day 2 tracker results were incorrect, since I assume that a tracker redirected to Beet would show no result. So it's

##vote rwc

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