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Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
Also I have given it some thought under the shower and I've come around to yeeting shwinn first.

My reasoning is the following:

Beet already has shown the ability to kill. As such he doesn't need to fear josef if he was scum, and with him not being roleblocked could have killed anyone else. Such as the multiple doc claims, or hum, who would be a much bigger issue for him.

As such, where tf did the kill go? Egalz didn't mention getting hit, nor do I expect them to be the target. Neither did hal.

I think shwinn is the best play.

Best case, we win, worst case, we confirm two townies.

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Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

EGalz18 posted:

Calm, calm, friends. I was catching up.

The ghost masonry is mine. Hal is just crashing on the couch.

N2 I loaned some me shaped body armor to RWC and was successful. I tried to do the same for Humalong last night and failed.

My third action is vote related, and I probably won't get to/choose to use it because we're too good at catching scum

how did you bodyguard hal exactly

EGalz18
Aug 5, 2023

I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Yami Fenrir posted:

how did you bodyguard hal exactly

We coordinated in ghost masonry. Hal said he was sewing protection for Josef, and I would have basically taken the bullet for Hal if he had been targeted.

Which is silly and not well thought through because he already has a BP.

I am still confused about his dress action failing if attacked when the attack should, in theory, be absorbed by the BP while it exists

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

EGalz18 posted:

We coordinated in ghost masonry. Hal said he was sewing protection for Josef, and I would have basically taken the bullet for Hal if he had been targeted.

Which is silly and not well thought through because he already has a BP.

I am still confused about his dress action failing if attacked when the attack should, in theory, be absorbed by the BP while it exists

My point is you claim to loan body armor to people, which doesn't sound like you're putting in Bodyguard work

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

Yami Fenrir posted:

My point is you claim to loan body armor to people, which doesn't sound like you're putting in Bodyguard work

she said the armor is "me-shaped" so I just kinda extrapolated it's a bodyguard

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage

Yami Fenrir posted:

My point is you claim to loan body armor to people, which doesn't sound like you're putting in Bodyguard work

It is definitely a bodyguard action. I think EGalz is just doing flavor.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Yami Fenrir posted:

Also I'm still paranoid of beet after he just sort of coasted his way to victory in rimworld

coasted to victory in rimworld?

i lied and posted my rear end off that game and effectively was solo scum for half of it.

i am highly offended.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Yami Fenrir posted:

Okay let's see here.

Going to leave egalz and moritz out because they've supposedly been copped. They're kind of null to me readwise. Egalz body armor has weird overlap with hal's dress making though.

Hal: I think the claim makes too much sense not to be town. Confirmed Doc (I copied it), mason crasher with a scum mason crasher having flipped.

Beet: Dayvig and masonizer have been confirmed (iirc). Mechanically it's... whatever. Content wise I'm not sold on them either way. The reason I'm somewhat sus of them is that basically nothing can be confirmed mechanically, especially with the missing kills.

Josef: I think the passive info thing is really weird, but the gunsmith stuff has been confirmed by keats drinking it and flipping as town. Leaning town, could maybe be a bounty hunter type? Miller/GF exists so plausible.

Humalong: While it's not technically confirmed that hum roleblocked meen two nights in a row, it's the basis of the push d3 so I'm just going to believe it. I think hum is responsible for the missing kills at hte very least. Town.

RWC: Used their sorta-rolecop to get wolo killed. Other abilities haven't been used which is odd. Ghost mason overlaps with egalz role? Not entirely sure. Not scum, could technically be a bounty hunter type.

shwinn: cop target choice is really townie. lead the charge on illu. Their flavor is really weird and so is the selfdoc/normal doc separation. Miller/GF exists so plausible, though.

beet: vig confirmed, mason confirmed, and josef confirmed my third ability messager.

unless i'm like, the odd one out and have four abilities.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

hambeet posted:

coasted to victory in rimworld?

i lied and posted my rear end off that game and effectively was solo scum for half of it.

i am highly offended.

Didn't feel like it was the right word but my point is, I know you bus and you end up occupying that "just there" space and end up in lylo as scum

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage
I am now in a masonry with Keats (and Hal, who crashes all of them).

I have not received any gifts whatsoever. No golden apples, no ugly coyotes--nothing.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

shwinn would have been lower on my list of who next after me.

i literally just woke up though so will need time to reflect.

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage
What is "bodyguard work" anyway?

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Yami Fenrir posted:

Didn't feel like it was the right word but my point is, I know you bus and you end up occupying that "just there" space and end up in lylo as scum

you'll be hearing from my lawyer with his outright slander, attack on my character and besmirching my good name.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Tired Moritz posted:

kinda just wanna kill beet, yeah

but what about this game?

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Mr. Humalong posted:

like why would we want shwinn to doc tmor? he's been copped as town, he's confessed he has no night actions, and he's already used up his day actions from what I can see. he's cast one vote all game so he's not exactly a strong town voice. what benefit do we have from keeping him alive? having him flip could help confirm the cop...

make it make sense, please

yeah this seems awkward actually

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Would be annoying if this turns to another 3P win after town murdered all the scum game again

Why did we vote off Keats again

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.





Grimey Drawer

Tired Moritz posted:

Would be annoying if this turns to another 3P win after town murdered all the scum game again

Why did we vote off Keats again

Very anemic responses, and absolutely absurd role/flavor claim (which turned out to be true)

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage

Tired Moritz posted:

Imo why do we have this arsonist theory anyway

Johnny Keats posted:

Somebody look up if there's an opera that features arson

Apparently there is a connecton between Norse gods, Wagner, and arson, I believe that's why.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Tired Moritz posted:

Would be annoying if this turns to another 3P win after town murdered all the scum game again

Why did we vote off Keats again

Because he wasn’t playing a town game. He wasn’t acting like town Keats. He refused to provide reads day 2, case at all anytime in game, his role claim was suss.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Though come to think of it I don’t think Keats posting, lack of reading or lack of cases is any worse than tired moritz this game. So good question imo.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

hmmm invoking rimworld has made me reflect on how I’d have played this game as scum.

If I was scum this game I would have caught wologar when he leapt from the roof to give a chance of being mis-cleared if he flips.

I would have argued with my colleagues that having a pretty much cleared scum was more important than that third town role card.

I’d probably have suggested meen do it as godfather in this particular circumstance, unless he was very strongly against it, confidence or busy or whatever.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

hambeet posted:

shwinn would have been lower on my list of who next after me.

i literally just woke up though so will need time to reflect.

Who else then?

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Yami Fenrir posted:

Who else then?

reflecting!

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

i know germans are efficient but it's only been 25 minutes since i posted i needed to wake up!

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

shwinnebego posted:

hal you said in our masonry that you were pretty positive i was town for catching wologar

but i didn't catch wologar

i wasn't even awake when he got rush-dunked

what were you talking about

Hal Incandenza posted:

Presumably scum would ideally want town to be the catchers so it certainly makes anyone who did it look more townie



is this a case of shwin really wanting to make sure that something said in masonry is brought up again in thread?

although is follow up is pretty natural i think

shwinnebego posted:

oh

wait

does that imply that yami and i should just fullclaim

shwinnebego posted:

because at present scum knows our cards but town does not

it would be better for town to know everything

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

are we only clearing yami because of the catch? or was there some other reason we are all feeling comfortable with papa yami?

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

egalz claiming things in thread always appears to be slightly obfuscated? the language i mean. apple of my eye, me-shaped armour or whatever, not being clear about third action at first when was asked for claims.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

i think still, we're catching a 3p not a scum because numbers of scum would have been high for a 15 player game, no?

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

so the pushing of illu / wolo doesn't really clear people then, it just means they're less likely to be scum

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

i think i need to walk the dog and then do some work. i'm skimming through the player list and looking for things i think are dodgy, but all that means is i'm picking at little things and casting a lot of light shade than finding anything egregious.

EGalz18
Aug 5, 2023

I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Yami Fenrir posted:

My point is you claim to loan body armor to people, which doesn't sound like you're putting in Bodyguard work

Mr. Humalong posted:

she said the armor is "me-shaped" so I just kinda extrapolated it's a bodyguard

Rhymes With Clue posted:

It is definitely a bodyguard action. I think EGalz is just doing flavor.

It's this. I was just trying to be all zesty about it

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Walking the dog and he said you’d have to be feeling pretty confident to withhold the night kill if last scum or sk.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

EGalz18 posted:

It's this. I was just trying to be all zesty about it

I assume your apple didn't trigger tonight?

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

hambeet posted:

are we only clearing yami because of the catch? or was there some other reason we are all feeling comfortable with papa yami?

As weird as self-casing is, I actually had the same thought yesterday

shwinnebego
Jul 11, 2002


it's not clear from my rolecard whether the apple automatically deflects death or only on a night where the apple-holder chooses to use the apple

EGalz18
Aug 5, 2023

I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Yami Fenrir posted:

I assume your apple didn't trigger tonight?

I believe I have to use it in place of a standard action

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

hambeet posted:

are we only clearing yami because of the catch? or was there some other reason we are all feeling comfortable with papa yami?

yami was probably my 3rd or 4th pick if somehow you and shwinn both flip town

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

so is jenny lind norse themed because she's from sweden?

because i can't find a history of her singing any norse opera? though maybe my google-fu sucks.

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

hambeet posted:

so is jenny lind norse themed because she's from sweden?

because i can't find a history of her singing any norse opera? though maybe my google-fu sucks.

I couldn't either.

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shwinnebego
Jul 11, 2002


it might be a deep cut opera-head thing

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