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Rogue AI Goddess posted:Which means that both you and Obi-Wan Kenobi are equally suspicious. However, only one of you was present on the night of murder. Obi-Wan was present at an awful lot of murders, tbh.
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Feb 10, 2024 00:18
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Feb 10, 2024 03:36
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PlasticAutomaton posted:Hey Keats are you a cop this game? Sandwolf posted:the hesitation to respond to this is basically a scumclaim Keats did respond though? Not sure what else to expect from Keats.
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Feb 10, 2024 04:10
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CirclMastr posted:I don't know why I read mafia threads when I first wake up, I didn't retain anything of those 50ish new posts. Same. My old man brain needs a while to boot up properly. Especially on a weekend.
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Feb 10, 2024 15:20
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Rhymes With Clue posted:Also it's only a good turbo if you do it before the poster in question has appeared, so tha works. While true, I have enjoyed Toal in recent games, so I don't wish to turbo. Even though turbo's are funny.
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Feb 10, 2024 22:27
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wologar posted:Toal and her Plastic Spork, scum. Pack it and send it. Psh, you wish it was that. One day you and I will actually be on opposite teams, but I doubt today is that day.
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Feb 10, 2024 23:36
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But yeah, I still want to let Toal play before voting them.
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Feb 10, 2024 23:37
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To the kind person who gave me an item last night: Thank you very much, I shall use it well. To the evil villain who stole my only item last night: You are a calous monster who shall be consigned to the deepest levels of hell. Also my results were stolen last night, possibly related.
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Feb 11, 2024 20:51
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Looks like Rogue AI Goddess has been renamed. They were on the list at end of D1, but aren't now.
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Feb 11, 2024 22:45
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My opinion before the Cube flip was that there were probably scum in the middle there, but they were less likely to be at the beginning or the end. I also felt there would be scum in the faction holding back avoiding the turbo. They would know she's flip town, or at least not flip scum. No counting Plastic, who ended up hammering, there were three who were outspoken against the Toal Turbo. The Toalbo. SporkChan posted:While true, I have enjoyed Toal in recent games, so I don't wish to turbo. Even though turbo's are funny. Sandwolf posted:I’m not gonna vote Toal but always good to see a turbo in the wild CirclMastr posted:I'd like to see at least one Toal post before the turbo goes through. Of the two who aren't me, I was more suspicious of Sand, which is why I targeted him last night. My suspicions haven't yet changed. ##vote Sandwolf
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Feb 12, 2024 01:08
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Is that still in reference to this:CapitalistPig posted:I got a night 0 cop and it says that sandwolf is scum. CapitalistPig posted:You have fallen into my clever and cunning trap. I am not a night 0 cop at all! If so, then most of our mafia games start with an extended 'joke phase' where most of what is said shouldn't be taken seriously. I, personally, didn't believe CPig's initial claim, nor the claim that it was a trap and you fell for it. I suspect most of the other players didn't think much of it either.
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Feb 12, 2024 01:33
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I'm still doing some research on all of this, but wanted to get some thoughts out because I welcome the help. Three books have been revealed as references for our characters so far: Frankenstein, by Mary Shelly [1818] The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, by Robert Louis Stevenson [1886] Gone with the Wind, by Margaret Mitchell [1936] My character is also from a book published during that time period. So we have a estimated time period from 1818 to 1936 for what the mods would consider 'classical' literature. Other literature from that time period which have notable villains: The Hunchback of Notre-Dame, by Victor Hugo (Archdeacon Frollo) [1831] The Three Musketeers, by Alexander Dumas (Richelieu, Rochefort, Milady) [1844] The Count of Monte Cristo, by Alexander Dumas (Mondego, Danglars, Villefort) [1846] Moby Dick, by Herman Melville (The whale, Captain Ahab) [1851] Les Miserables, by Victor Hugo (Javert, The Thenardiers) [1862] Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea, by Jules Verne (Captain Nemo) [1870] -Other Jules Verne stories don't really have any villain, so this would be my most likely pick. Treasure Island, by Robert Louis Stevenson (Long John Silver) [1883] -Unlikely the mods would pick two books by the same author, but Silver/Mr. Hyde might have both inspired great ideas. Sherlock Holmes Novels, by Arthur Conan Doyle (Moriarty, Irene Adler) [1887 - 1927] Dracula, by Bram Stoker (Dracula, Renfield) [1897] ...and many more I haven't gotten around to including on my list. In addition I would personally consider Shakespeare and Dante Alighieri to be classical literature, despite not being in that time period. Which would give far too many villain options to list.
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Feb 12, 2024 02:03
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Sandwolf posted:I get the logic but idk maybe we should start with the group that actually killed the town? Yeah, but one group was much smaller, so that's the one I chose to focus on first.
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Feb 12, 2024 02:03
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My view is that I am town, so the things that I do are good and righteous. The things other people do (even when those are the exact same thing I did) are inherently suspect.
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Feb 12, 2024 02:11
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wologar posted:Spork, this quote is from early D1. What made you townread me so soon? wologar posted:Some days I awake mid-scream, wondering if I have turned into Keats. wologar posted:are scum heroes in disguise wologar posted:What does your cubical eye tell you? Mostly vibes.
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Feb 12, 2024 05:48
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Rhymes With Clue posted:But in that vein: This makes me a little sus on Spork, who has provided a whole list. Why? I have to ask. Last night I was given an item. I also had an item stolen. And even though my action succeeded, I didn't get my results. So I dove down a wiki hole trying to figure out what literary villain could have done/would have done something like that. And I came up blank, but I wasn't going to leave that whole rear end list just in a notepad when I'd put the work in. Also Cube seems to be wary of BH's every game. I didn't read anything into it.
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Feb 12, 2024 06:35
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CapitalistPig posted:Playing open world coop survival crafting games with friends is a valid excuse for not posting. Do you see something in her posts I don't? Zoya is a null read for me at the moment, not a lot to go on.
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Feb 12, 2024 15:06
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PlasticAutomaton posted:I feel like Spork's tangent is completely pointless at best right now and does not help with anything involving actual scum hunting. I mean, whoever stole my results hasn't claimed it and I believe most of the game has checked in at this point? So I'm operating under the assumption they are scum. If I can figure out which villain they likely are I can look to see if anyone dropped any hints or soft claims. Or a rolecop could use the info to call someone scum if they find someone who's villain is a thief.
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Feb 12, 2024 18:17
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It wasn't that odd though. Scum likely used their factional night kill ability to kill Iggy. Iggy likely used his odd nights killing ability on Cube, to kill Cube. And Iggy didn't show up as scum in any regard.
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Feb 12, 2024 18:28
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SporkChan posted:It wasn't that odd though. Actually, I suppose they would have shown up as SCUM on investigations last night. But the flip today revealed they actually were town all along.
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Feb 12, 2024 18:30
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Rogue AI Goddess posted:Speaking of horror, I just realized that the Whizzard was likely killed because the pisstape is real. The Whizzard was killed because no one likes him. wologar posted:The Whizzard is true literature. False
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Feb 12, 2024 21:09
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Johnny Keats posted:After pondering the differences between Doctor Frankenstein, and any potential thematic connections between Doctor Jekyll and my own (town) flavor, this is where I'm at in regard to flavor setup-spec. Wouldn't Scarlet O'Hara have counted then? She sucks, but I wouldn't have called her the villain in that book. (Other than racism and the Confederacy I'm not sure there is a villain in that book.) I dunno, I don't think scum will be linked by theme.
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Feb 13, 2024 06:12
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wologar posted:lol, deadline in 15 hours And 8 different people who have all only received one vote.
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Feb 13, 2024 06:13
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wologar posted:Space Opera Mafia had scum-scum bounty hunters, town-town bounty hunters and town-scum bounty hunters. That game was modded by HCT, who is one of the mods here, btw. So this made me think of something, since I'd forgotten about this game. In Space Opera the bounty hunter pairs each knew they were hunting someone, AND that someone was hunting them. So as I recall we were told something like, "You are hunting Joe the BrainSlug, but be warned! Joe is also seeking you out and will kill you first!" Rhymes With Clue posted:Cube mentioned bounty hunters, which seemed like an odd thing to mention as according to his flip he wasn't one. I am sensing the potential of a BH wincon and possibly among scum. In fact it's possible that Meen was chosen as NK for this reason. He was pretty transparently Jekyll/Hyde, I'm thinking if I could get there a BH could too. So anyone looking for possible roles is a little suspect to me right now and we should probably not even breadcrumb our flavor here. At the time I thought RWC was correct that Cube's comment about BH's meant that scum had a BH on their team. Maybe someone who powers up if they kill their book rival? Paired villains in a novel who are against the protagonist and each other? Two rival protagonists in a story who ruin everyone's lives around them and are basically villains in the story? But now that wolo reminded me of Space Opera, I'm wondering. What if the BH victim(s?) are scum? Maybe someone on the scum team knows that there is a 3P BH who is hunting them?
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Feb 13, 2024 06:28
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CapitalistPig posted:This day 2 feels like day 1. Zoya posted:well, we turbo'd through D1, so despite having a couple of flips and some night results... it's still sort of D1! it's D1, with higher stakes Yeah, this is the risk of turbo's. If they go too fast there's no real info gained during D1. Unless town gets crazy lucky and turbo's a scum.
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Feb 13, 2024 06:29
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PlasticAutomaton posted:I feel like everyone who's obsessed with this flavor stuff right now is wasting our time. Well what else do we have to talk about? This is a role madness game and it was apparently light on the madness last night. Zoya was Redirected. Some loudified Zoya or Keats as well. (Possibly related to the redirect.) I was given an item/had that item stolen, and my results were stolen. D1 there was talk (From Cube, so suspect) or a messenger. No one else has claimed or hinted at anything else. And because there was a D1 turbo we've mostly been talking about our feelings on turbo's in general, not the votes as they occurred yesterday.
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Feb 13, 2024 06:50
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To that end. This is the first mention of Toal in the game:Rhymes With Clue posted:Okay, I'm gonna take a nap because it's Saturday and the current weather is favorable for mini hibernation. Before I go I will provide thoughts. Rhymes suggests that Toal is scum. Toal hadn't posted anything since signing up (and in the end wouldn't post while alive) so I kinda read this is jokephase stuff. And her later vote on Toal was claimed to be just because of the fun turbo, not because of any read. CubicalSucrose posted:Turbo Toal? A few hours later Cube votes for Toal explicitly calling for a turbo. This was after some discussion around Cube, specifically multiple people claiming to be the 'Cube whisperer', but Cube never accumulated many votes or felt in danger to me. (Side note: this is Cube's last post. Never came back to discuss the turbo he'd started.) We know this was scum starting a turbo. Did Cube pick Toal because she hadn't posted yet? Or was RWC seeding the idea of Toal earlier to make the Cube vote seem more palatable? I can't see any linking between Cube and Rhymes. Or between Cube and anyone really. Cube called Iggy town at one point, then said he'd kill Iggy. That's it though, feel like Cube was coasting a bit. Not surprising I feel like he's rolled scum a lot lately, and may be getting tired.
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Feb 13, 2024 07:04
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CirclMastr posted:Anyway I'm not too plussed about Cube's claim and don't see the need to lunch them for it. This doesn't look great in retrospect. CirclMastr posted:I've once again not really retained anything I read of the thread upon first waking up, but this time I actually got caffeine and re-read some things. Amazing, I know. And I'm curious about this now too. What was it about my posts you didn't like Circl?
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Feb 13, 2024 17:17
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Rogue AI Goddess posted:I will stop tracking my target if they die (or if I do). Even Javert eventually gave up the chase. Yeah, but he canonically does that by throwing himself in the Seine, which I'm hoping won't be the case for you as well.
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Feb 13, 2024 17:18
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Also per my earlier thoughts about one or multiple scum being the targets of BH's, I'm side eyeing everyone who was so against flavor claims. To that end I will reveal myself. Tosses red velvet cape off in a dramatic fashion! It is I! Cardinal Richelieu!  I have a targeted investigation action, but I'm not going to full claim just yet. However one player can confirm it if they so choose. Though they will be admitting to being a cowardly thief!
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Feb 13, 2024 17:36
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Rogue AI Goddess posted:Same, especially since I'd have to get a visa to get there. Glad to know improvements can be made. And personally I think it's better for you to make the decision yourself about night actions. Publicly announcing what you are doing just lets scum work around that. For example: If Sandwolf is scum, he and his teammates now know that he shouldn't do the kill or take any negative action.
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Feb 13, 2024 17:38
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CirclMastr posted:True but I was nonplussed mostly because I didn't understand the purpose of the claim, I didn't necessarily believe it. I don't think that that pool MUST include scum. Just that it's more likely to, and it gives me a way to narrow my focus. Especially after a D1 turbo which didn't provide a lot of information to town.
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Feb 13, 2024 17:40
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Sandwolf posted:Feels weird to have a real villain amongst fictional villains, I know it’s a flavor argument so I’m not pushing it, but that definitely feels weird I mean, I suspect more people hear of Richelieu thru the story rather than thru history studies. It's a popular book, and has been many popular movies. I'll grant you it is odd that he's both a historical figure and a fictional character, but blame Dumas for that.
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Feb 13, 2024 19:10
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##vote CirclMastr I agree with YPM that having a one-shot doublevote feels low powered. And I doubt you'd use it just to prove the existence of it. If it was a 1-shot you could claimed first. And the suspicion towards me for looking at the non-turbo players feels like caught scum to me.
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Feb 13, 2024 19:13
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PlasticAutomaton posted:I'm just kinda back on the lurker theory because I have basically zero town reads at this point. Ya'll scummy as poo poo to me in different ways. ...I don't have any claimed results. I have been upfront since this day began that my results were stolen. Between that and the way you've been against talking about flavor from the beginning... ##vote Plastic
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Feb 13, 2024 20:01
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PlasticAutomaton posted:The item poo poo? Have I been reading this wrong the entire time? I guess I can see how you'd call that my results if I squint. To my mind my 'results' were the thing that was stolen from me. And the item stuff is just what happened to me. Also since no one has claimed to have given me an item last night, I'm pretty sure the whole thing is just one action. Ie. Someone's action is to A.)Give target player an item. B.)Take the item back from target player. C.)Take anything else the target player has laying around as well, like action results.
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Feb 13, 2024 20:53
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Johnny Keats posted:How likely is a Sandwolf swerve? Less likely than a Keats swerve at this point.
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Feb 13, 2024 21:28
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Johnny Keats posted:Well what is your read on Sandwolf? Had a lot of posts around/about Cube on D1, refused to vote for Toal. I scum read him at that point. That read has mellowed some over the day. The confusion about my fictional/historical character felt genuine though. Right now I'd put Sand on the town side of the line, but only barely.
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PlasticAutomaton posted:It is weird how the votes on Circl basically evaporated over nothing. Yeah, I dislike that the votes on Circl spread about between you and Keats as well.
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