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Greens (including Scot & NI Greens)	206	32.54%
Scottish National Party	33	5.21%
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Some Kind of Irish Unionist	0	0%
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OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

You are welcome to participate but I'm afraid I cannot enforce people wanting to listen or speak to you if you turn up just to complain about how much you don't like the thread. If you don't like the thread I encourage you to try one of the many other threads available on something awful dot com. I hope you are not being forced to read this one against your will.

An element of white noise posting is fine, it is a chatty thread, but if it is consistently unappealing to read and neither funny nor informative this may engender a similar response to complaints.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Jun 19, 2024

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Angepain posted:

looks like crispix has been de-IK'd - specifically for editing posts, which fair tbh it is explicitly against the ik rules

Flew too close to the sun, that lad

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:31

HopperUK: Apr 29, 2007; Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Editing posts for no good reason and a without saying what you did is a pretty serious forums faux-pas.

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:35

vanity slug: Jul 20, 2010

Guavanaut posted:

You're right, but it did seem to be the defining moment between the wider public reaction being a sense that it was about some things that happened in the US to "they're coming for our statues" and then (among anyone prepared to reflect on it) "wait, do we have any statues of racists, and if so what should we do with them?"

It took less than 20 days from the statue being toppled to Cambridge announcing the removal of the Sir Ronald Fisher window, and that definitely seemed a shift in tone from "we need to have a civilized debate about what things were acceptable in the past" to "poo poo someone's going to just put a brick through it if we don't take it out."

just checked in oxford and oriel college's statue of cecil rhodes is still standing, unfortunately too high to make it easy to tear down

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:35

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012

eleven extra elephants posted:

oh yeah, add this smug as poo poo 'locals only' attitude to the list too

You don't have to be a local to post here, we've got regulars from places as exotic as Finland and Ireland, but criticism of the "thread culture" for lack of a better term from people who rarely post in it just comes across more like concern trolling than anything worth paying attention to. If you do want to post here regularly, great, cool, more the merrier. But the thread shouldn't change to accommodate your particular peccadillos. And with the recent bizarre (to put it mildly) witch hunt against Fuctifino, yeah, think we're entirely within our rights to be suspicious of the motives of someone coming & saying "change this, this & this to be better".

But sure, it's a local thread for local people :shrug:

Anyway, the one part I agree on is there's too much forum drama, so moving on

https://x.com/mish_rahman/status/1803459465561203132

For those without Twitter, a post from Labour NEC member Mish Rahman: "This legal threat from the Labour Party to Mr Forde is consistent with the behaviour of Starmer�s Labour Party, which is intent on cracking down on any dissent or criticism rather than the actual perpetrators of racism" And here's the article linked

quote:

Labour attempted to gag a prominent Black barrister who authored a report which exposed a "hierarchy of racism" within the party, The Independent can reveal.

Martin Forde KC was warned he was "acting against the party's interest" in a letter sent by lawyers representing Labour after he gave an interview highlighting Labour�s failures around the report.

Mr Forde said the exchange had left him "irritated", telling The Independent the party "can't silence me".

The Forde Report, an independent inquiry into the Labour's culture in 2022, found it was an �unwelcoming place for people of colour� and had a �toxic� culture of factional disputes between the party�s right and left.

After publication in March 2023, the lawyer gave an interview to Al Jazeera in which he said no one from Labour had been willing to discuss the recommendations further and highlighted concerns raised by ethnic minority politicians within Labour about racism in the party.

In response, it has now emerged the Labour Party sent Mr Forde a robust legal letter, seen by The Independent, accusing him of acting against the party�s interests and advising him it was �considering all of its options�.

Lawyers accused Mr Forde of �extensive negative and highly prejudicial comments� and questioned his professional conduct.

Speaking to The Independent this week, the respected lawyer said: �I don�t know if it was an attempt to silence me.

�I mean, they�ve couched it carefully along the lines of �we�re reminding you of your professional duties� which I found mildly irritating because I am a regulatory lawyer, and I don�t like my professionalism or ethics being questioned, so that but, but so I felt it was more.

�I�m a private individual, they can�t silence me.�

�I fundamentally object to people saying to me �you don�t know how to behave as a professional�. I�m afraid that Black professionals get it all the time.�

The Forde report made 165 recommendations including the use of blind CVs in recruitment and changes to the complaints procedure, many of which the party says it has now implemented.

However, during his interview with Al-Jazeera, the barrister claimed Labour�s lack of debate and engagement over his findings at the time indicated wider concerns. He described Labour�s antisemitism training as �largely didatic, top down and one dimensional�.

The barrister also told the news outlet that �quite a high proportion of Black and Asian councillors or prospective MPs felt they�d been subjected to disciplinary action which had been deliberately timed to exclude them from qualifying processes or selection�.

On receipt of the legal complaint, Mr Forde responded via his own lawyers in a letter seen by The Independent which dismissed the accusations as �baseless�. He said he did not hear from Labour on the issue again.

Mr Forde said he read their correspondence as an indication they may report him to his regulatory body.

�I was surprised to receive those letters, and was also surprised by the tone and content, because I thought I had a sufficiently good working relationship with the general secretary for him simply to ask me what I�d said... �All he had to do was pick up the phone.�

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer has been accused of purging the Labour left after selection rows over veteran MP Diane Abbott and Chingford and Woodford Green candidate Faiza Shaheen.

Ms Shaheen was dropped as a candidate over a series of likes on social media posts, while it was briefed that Ms Abbott, who had recently had the Labour whip restored after she suggested Jewish, Irish and Traveller people experience prejudice, but not racism, would be barred from standing for the party. She has now been allowed back in.

When asked what people might make of the correspondence from Labour in context of Ms Abbott and Ms Shaheen, Mr Forde added: �I am sure that people will definitely see it as a collateral attack on a Black professional.�

Mish Rahman, a member of Labour�s Nation Executive Committee (NEC), told The Independent he was disappointed by the letter to Mr Forde.

�This legal threat from the Labour Party to Mr Forde is consistent with the behaviour of Starmer�s Labour Party, which is intent on cracking down on any dissent or criticism rather than the actual perpetrators of racism,� he said.

�We also saw this in the party�s pursuit of those it believed had leaked evidence of racism and its defence of those who had made racist and bigoted comments.�

Mr Rahman claimed Mr Forde was invited to attend NEC meetings on several occasions, but Sir Keir and his general secretary refused to allow it: �As a member, I received countless correspondence from members about the delayed Forde Report into racism in the party.

�It is now clear as day that Forde was suppressed by Labour�s leadership and that they have attempted to cover up the reports disgraceful findings by stopping Forde from meeting the NEC.

�Under Keir�s leadership the party operates a hierarchy of racism where it doesn't take anti-Black racism and Islamophobia seriously and instead punishes those like Martin Forde KC and Faiza Shaheen who bring evidence of racism to light.

�The irony and double standards are astoundingly laid bare.�

A Labour Party spokesperson said: �The Labour Party is fully committed to tackling racist and discriminatory attitudes wherever they arise, within and outside the Party. Labour has apologised for the culture and attitudes expressed by senior staff that were examined by the Forde Report.

�We are proud the party has completed work on the recommendations made by Martin Forde and want to place on record, once again, our thanks to Martin for his hard work.

�Labour has introduced a new, independent complaints process, code of conduct on Afrophobia, anti-Black racism and Islamophobia and mandatory training for staff on Afrophobia and anti-Black racism.

�We are delighted that Labour has more Black candidates, and Black male candidates in particular, than ever before.�

The Independent also contacted Sir Keir Starmer�s office for comment.

These leaked documents were made available by Paul Holden, an investigative journalist whose book will be published at the end of this year.

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Jun 19, 2024

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Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

It does seem a strange rule particularly when I've had problems with say, Vitamin P and occasionally others essentially using the probation system to evade threadbans at a rate of one post per six hours. A threadban means you are not allowed to post here, not "you have to wait six hours between posts and we still have to read them"

TBF vitamin P's case is a bit different, since he's explicitly told "you're no longer allowed to post here because of your cruel and harassing behaviour" and then goes back to doing it, and editing out harassment is the kind of thing IKs are allowed to edit, to my understanding?

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:37

mfcrocker: Jan 31, 2004; Hot Rope Guy

We've had a bunch of lurkers out of the woodwork recently to pay tribute to our fallen comrade and they've generally been encouraged to stick around. Folks aren't daft though, and it's pretty obvious when someone's here just to poo poo things up

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Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

oh yeah and I believe you absolutely have to sign saying you did it and why

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:37

HopperUK: Apr 29, 2007; Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

I was a bit distressed by the thread reaction to the fuctifino situation to be honest. I haven't spoken up before because I don't want people here to decide I don't belong here. But I saw some of the PMs he sent and they were beyond just angry, they were well into territory that gets people shown the door.

Call me a liar if you like but I've been a regular poster in here for years.

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:39

Mesopotamia: Apr 12, 2010

forkboy84 posted:

You don't have to be a local to post here, we've got regulars from places as exotic as Finland and Ireland, but criticism of the "thread culture" for lack of a better term from people who rarely post in it just comes across more like concern trolling than anything worth paying attention to. If you do want to post here regularly, great, cool, more the merrier. But the thread shouldn't change to accommodate your particular peccadillos. And with the recent bizarre (to put it mildly) witch hunt against Fuctifino, yeah, think we're entirely within our rights to be suspicious of the motives of someone coming & saying "change this, this & this to be better".

But sure, it's a local thread for local people

I used to post in here a lot, but do have to agree I have been turned away by the insular nature. I enjoyed it being something of an island, but don�t enjoy it being an island that actively tries to block new people coming in.

If they�re a prick, tell them or ignore them. Do not just erase their posts on a whim so nobody else can judge. Basic rule.

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Tai: Mar 8, 2006

Tbh, the whole Fuctifino incident could of had a lot more clarity about it rather than a permaban, some words in their LC probe and peaced out.

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bessantj: Jul 27, 2004

sinky posted:

Even funnier than Jo Swinson of Jo Swinsons Liberal Democrats losing her seat

More time for her to go after squirrels.

People of this thread who have ADHD, what is your opinion of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4-I4nmNAHE

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:41

Rarity: Oct 21, 2010; ~*4 LIFE*~

Re: Colston, the removal of the statue also had an ongoing impact within Bristol where a bunch of major buildings with Colston's name attached got rebranded. It definitely initiated an important reflection in the city of its history with the slave trade.

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:42

HopperUK: Apr 29, 2007; Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Tai posted:

Tbh, the whole Fuctifino incident could of had a lot more clarity about it rather than a permaban, some words in their LC probe and peaced out.

Maybe. The admins were trying to walk a line and not break anyone's privacy including fuct's.

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:43

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

Mesopotamia posted:

I used to post in here a lot, but do have to agree I have been turned away by the insular nature. I enjoyed it being something of an island, but don�t enjoy it being an island that actively tries to block new people coming in.

If they�re a prick, tell them or ignore them. Do not just erase their posts on a whim so nobody else can judge. Basic rule.

This is a shame btw as I've seen you around and know you're a good poster. For what that's worth coming from me... all well and good me saying "I was saying Boo-urns"

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:43

Rarity: Oct 21, 2010; ~*4 LIFE*~

bessantj posted:

More time for her to go after squirrels.

People of this thread who have ADHD, what is your opinion of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4-I4nmNAHE

Yeah that's a pretty accurate assessment. ADHD means having your dopamine levels all hosed up and instant gratification is about the only way to get them to where they should be

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:44

josh04: Oct 19, 2008; "THE FLASH IS THE REASON
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vanity slug posted:

just checked in oxford and oriel college's statue of cecil rhodes is still standing, unfortunately too high to make it easy to tear down

Announcing they were going to remove it then doing an immediate u-turn when various alumni threatened to pull funding was one of the most craven things I've ever seen. Probably mentioned it itt before but it's literally constructed so as to place Rhodes above Kings and Priest, looking down his nose at them. Tacky as poo poo.

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:44

mfcrocker: Jan 31, 2004; Hot Rope Guy

bessantj posted:

More time for her to go after squirrels.

People of this thread who have ADHD, what is your opinion of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4-I4nmNAHE

Yep, like with pretty much everything he puts out PirateSoftware is dead on with this. It's not always easy to put these structures in place for yourself though.

HopperUK posted:

Maybe. The admins were trying to walk a line and not break anyone's privacy including fuct's.

Sure, but with an information vacuum we're likely to fill it ourselves and what we saw was a dude get harassed by chat thread IKs and to a lesser degree a GBS mod and get perma'd for his reaction

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:44

Lt. Danger: Dec 22, 2006; jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

HopperUK posted:

I was a bit distressed by the thread reaction to the fuctifino situation to be honest. I haven't spoken up before because I don't want people here to decide I don't belong here. But I saw some of the PMs he sent and they were beyond just angry, they were well into territory that gets people shown the door.

Call me a liar if you like but I've been a regular poster in here for years.

I think people are reacting less to a single incident and more to the perceived ongoing animosity from the other thread

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:46

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HopperUK posted:

I was a bit distressed by the thread reaction to the fuctifino situation to be honest. I haven't spoken up before because I don't want people here to decide I don't belong here. But I saw some of the PMs he sent and they were beyond just angry, they were well into territory that gets people shown the door.

Call me a liar if you like but I've been a regular poster in here for years.

The whole thing was a bit like walking into your local pub and some lad is on the ground being booted by 8 other bigger boys. Maybe he was in there doing mad poo poo and provoking people, maybe they just didn't like the look of him. But overall you're probably not gonna recommend that pub to your mates who are coming into town the following weekend.

In theory it should be easy to say who started what, but there seems to be a lot of grudge-bearing and obfuscation and weird PMs being thrown around everywhere.

Also, yes I'm aware that spectacularly bad posting is not the same as physically having a go at someone, I'm just using the power of analogy which has made me such a high-impact, high-volume poster.

E: vvvvv tend to agree with this, as someone who has been banned multiple times over the decades for making really lovely posts, but never perma'd . I like to think I got a bit better at not being a complete dickhead

Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Jun 19, 2024

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mfcrocker: Jan 31, 2004; Hot Rope Guy

I will say, unless the content was properly vile I think a perma was an overreaction - I'm not really sure why this couldn't have been handled with a Ban+30 or something.

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:48

Ragnar Gunvald: May 13, 2015; Cool and good.

History Comes Inside! posted:

If it gets to the point that we have to consider retaliating for something with loving nuclear weapons then we’re already tremendously hosed

I entirely agree, like I said, I would much rather nobody had them.

However, if we do disarm, someone has to go first and someone has to go last. Would you honestly trust the US or Russia if they go last? Would you want either one of them to be the final country on the planet that only has them? I'm not sure how I feel about that

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:49

Falcorum: Oct 21, 2010

Tesseraction posted:

From the Graun:

Figures a guy called Seldon would talk about the fall of empire :v:

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:50

Crab Battle: Jan 16, 2010; Haha! Yeah!

HopperUK posted:

I was a bit distressed by the thread reaction to the fuctifino situation to be honest. I haven't spoken up before because I don't want people here to decide I don't belong here. But I saw some of the PMs he sent and they were beyond just angry, they were well into territory that gets people shown the door.

Call me a liar if you like but I've been a regular poster in here for years.

I mean, fair enough if it got bad behind the scenes - no reason to doubt you there. But it wasn't exactly the first step of the conversation, y'know? The original chain-probing and the harassment around it weren't in good faith and shouldn't have happened.

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OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Tesseraction posted:

TBF vitamin P's case is a bit different, since he's explicitly told "you're no longer allowed to post here because of your cruel and harassing behaviour" and then goes back to doing it, and editing out harassment is the kind of thing IKs are allowed to edit, to my understanding?

Mostly he just keeps trying to weigh in on the subject of discussion, which I don't object to in and of itself but he was ejected by common acclaim for being a real dickhead and he hasn't apologised for that and I don't have any indication he wouldn't do it again if it came to it. And he doesn't listen to being told not to post because he specifically seems content to post whatever and then immediately get probated as long as people have to read it, like some sort of posting flasher in a trenchcoat.

So I started just editing them out and he stopped posting. Seems like a desirable outcome. Hopefully he's doing something else with his life.

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:51

Ragnar Gunvald: May 13, 2015; Cool and good.

Mega Comrade posted:

What changed my mind on Trident was discovering that we are completely beholden on the US to maintain it. So if ever US pulled the plug on support it would fall apart within months.

So if ever the US decided they didn't have our back, we would be hosed regardless.

Well, poo poo. I didn't know that and that is actually a great point you've made.

I don't like us being as close to the US as we are considering how loving mental their country has got over the last 20 years. I worry we get dragged into far too much of their poo poo tbh.

I'm going to have a think on this but you may have managed to change my mind with that fact.

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:52

HopperUK: Apr 29, 2007; Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

The content was properly vile. I don't think the perma was an overreaction. I don't know how much weight that carries with anyone here. I like fuct and I was shocked to see it.

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:53

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

So I started just editing them out and he stopped posting. Seems like a desirable outcome. Hopefully he's doing something else with his life.

Hopefully not flashing people from a trenchcoat...

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:54

mfcrocker: Jan 31, 2004; Hot Rope Guy

HopperUK posted:

The content was properly vile. I don't think the perma was an overreaction. I don't know how much weight that carries with anyone here. I like fuct and I was shocked to see it.

Fair enough, I have no reason to not believe you on that.

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:55

feedmegin: Jul 30, 2008

Mega Comrade posted:

What changed my mind on Trident was discovering that we are completely beholden on the US to maintain it. So if ever US pulled the plug on support it would fall apart within months.

I suspect if that even looked like happening a) we'd be geopolitically hosed but b) we would be tooling up to be able to maintain it ourselves real fast. The warheads are ours, it's the rockets that are theirs, and while maintaining them is, well, rocket science, we are not North Korea (who can in any case make perfectly viable rockets) and could do it if we had to.

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:57

Ragnar Gunvald: May 13, 2015; Cool and good.

Angepain posted:

looks like crispix has been de-IK'd - specifically for editing posts, which fair tbh it is explicitly against the ik rules

He shouldn't be the only person de-ID'd for bending the rules or taking the piss if that's the case. They should all be held to a higher standard of posting than us idiots.

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:57

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

feedmegin posted:

I suspect if that even looked like happening a) we'd be geopolitically hosed but b) we would be tooling up to be able to maintain it ourselves real fast. The warheads are ours, it's the rockets that are theirs, and while maintaining them is, well, rocket science, we are not North Korea (who can in any case make perfectly viable rockets) and could do it if we had to.

I enjoy the notion of a nuclear deterrant that says if you declare war on us we will fire rockets indiscrimiately towards eurasia.

# ? Jun 19, 2024 16:59

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

I enjoy the notion of a nuclear deterrant that says if you declare war on us we will fire rockets indiscrimiately towards eurasia.

The US turns on us so we just send people to suicide bomb the US carrying warheads in old spitfires.

# ? Jun 19, 2024 17:01

Ragnar Gunvald: May 13, 2015; Cool and good.

HopperUK posted:

I was a bit distressed by the thread reaction to the fuctifino situation to be honest. I haven't spoken up before because I don't want people here to decide I don't belong here. But I saw some of the PMs he sent and they were beyond just angry, they were well into territory that gets people shown the door.

Call me a liar if you like but I've been a regular poster in here for years.

My opinion, while not seeing the PMs etc is that what he said must have been awful... But he could have had PMd turned off, given a ban, a serious slap on the wrists etc. it's known he had some issues but generally he seemed like a good egg for the most part minus his issues.

I'm prob more sympathetic because I can relate to having a tough time with some of those things etc etc but I think he at least deserved a chance based on how long he had been here etc etc and he most certainly was somewhat provoked by that probe in the other thread for just paying his respects. That was uncalled for IMO

# ? Jun 19, 2024 17:03

EvilHawk: Sep 15, 2009; LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

Ragnar Gunvald posted:

He shouldn't be the only person de-ID'd for bending the rules or taking the piss if that's the case. They should all be held to a higher standard of posting than us idiots.

It appears the dickhead was also IK'd (unless their icons suddenly don't appear outside of their threads).

# ? Jun 19, 2024 17:04

feedmegin: Jul 30, 2008

OwlFancier posted:

I enjoy the notion of a nuclear deterrant that says if you declare war on us we will fire rockets indiscrimiately towards eurasia.

Well I'm not saying we would develop our own from scratch, more figure out how to maintain the US ones, but that probably would work as a deterrent in the sense that if we accidentally glass Paris or Moscow there's likely to be a global escalation.

# ? Jun 19, 2024 17:04

Mega Comrade: Apr 22, 2004; Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Ragnar Gunvald posted:

Well, poo poo. I didn't know that and that is actually a great point you've made.

I don't like us being as close to the US as we are considering how loving mental their country has got over the last 20 years. I worry we get dragged into far too much of their poo poo tbh.

I'm going to have a think on this but you may have managed to change my mind with that fact.

The extent of the reliance is nuts.
British subs have to visit the US base in Georgia for maintenance and rearming. We have no test site so that's all carried out under US supervision off the Florida coast.

The generators, gas reservoirs, missile body shells, GPS, guidance and targeting systems, gravitational information and navigation systems are all provided by the US.

What's even funnier. Is we don't even own the nukes on them, they are leased to us by the US.

Trident is US foreign policy.

# ? Jun 19, 2024 17:06

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

feedmegin posted:

I suspect if that even looked like happening a) we'd be geopolitically hosed but b) we would be tooling up to be able to maintain it ourselves real fast. The warheads are ours, it's the rockets that are theirs, and while maintaining them is, well, rocket science, we are not North Korea (who can in any case make perfectly viable rockets) and could do it if we had to.

They manage navigation and targeting too, so I still say even going back to the V Bomber fleet and Blue Steel would be a better deterrent than one that Donald Trump can retarget towards Nambia or that is functionally useless in the event that it needs to deter certain areas.

# ? Jun 19, 2024 17:07

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

What I will say, as I don't think I've spelled it out. If anyone else ITT has problems with people harassing you, in or out of the thread, I would greatly prefer it if you would contact me about it rather than trying to annihilate them via retaliatory PM. I will try to help if I can.

EvilHawk posted:

It appears the dickhead was also IK'd (unless their icons suddenly don't appear outside of their threads).

IKs only have the star inside their relevant thread.

# ? Jun 19, 2024 17:08

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bessantj: Jul 27, 2004

Rarity posted:

Yeah that's a pretty accurate assessment. ADHD means having your dopamine levels all hosed up and instant gratification is about the only way to get them to where they should be

mfcrocker posted:

Yep, like with pretty much everything he puts out PirateSoftware is dead on with this. It's not always easy to put these structures in place for yourself though.

Thank you, I have a friend with ADHD and while I don't think I can say "do this to cure yourself" I would like to suggest anything that may even help a bit.

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