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Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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the evil step-son

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I feel vaguely fresh brained, time to fix that

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Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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shwinnebego posted:

i am gonna make you fish-brained by the end of this game

:coolfish:

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Hey me too

Dans Macabre posted:

I will kill the first person who votes for me.

Wait a second ...

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Dans Macabre posted:

I will kill the first person who votes for me.

Rhymes With Clue posted:

I will vote for the first person who says "who scum" unless they have threatened to kill me for voting for them.

fool of sound posted:

I have received insider information that Cube, who doesn't know that I'm their best friend, is a third-party doctor.

Rhymes With Clue posted:

Also I have information that it is MARCH and somebody has not yet taken down their Xmas lights!

Get on with it man.

Look at all this scum coordination

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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wins32767 posted:

Are you scum? It feels like you're scum.

No because I didn't talk about who I'm going to kill nor do I have insider info

Obviously

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Also you don't have to take down Christmas lights if you never put them up

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Opopanax posted:

Ah, so you're going to kill someone? Aha! ##vote maer

Hey buddy, why don't you close your Xmas game in votefinder? :cheeky:



hope the distraction works 🤞

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Okay serious question, what is everyone's favorite kitchen utensil?

I like things that enable my laziness, so a pineapple corer/slicer or mango corer did all the hard work for me

(Juiciness was also an issue)

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Dans Macabre posted:

I'm a man of my word

## vote shwinnificent

TM voted for you first though

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Tired Moritz posted:

Oh boy I hope Maerlyn isn't a flavor hunter

This is a weird statement to make

AFancyQuestionMark posted:

What is a kitchen really?

A room where food is prepared/cooked

So if you make pringle water in your dorm room it's technically a kitchen

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Oh weird you're right (I did sincerely think you had skipped voting TM and even wondered why votefinder had it backwards)

I think I need to go back to bed

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Rhymes With Clue posted:

Cube lookng a bit suss for his hedgy reply to best kitchen implement. Why not a knife?

I could see Maerlyn and Opop as scum together, because of Opop's quick joke vote and then pulling off.

For now: ##vote Cube

This is a scummy post/vote. It's a fakey reasoning for voting someone.

Cube's hedgy post that RWC refers to:

CubicalSucrose posted:

Probably knife. If that's unacceptable, then I think ladel.

##vote RWC

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Grandicap posted:

I am suspicious of Maer, which is why I am suspicious of TM.
Reasonable people are sus on Maer today. But TM jumped to a 3p accusation. He knows Maer isn't on the scum team, so the only reason she has to be playing like that is 3p (in TM's mind).

Vote Tired for great justice!

I'd also vote TM for his weird hand wringy post

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Grandicap posted:

That would be a good scum team that I would be happy to be a member of.

Ditto!

I do hope Grandi is town, too early to say but the callout on TM was a +1 in the town column

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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CubicalSucrose posted:

My doublevote plan has been an abject failure.

What makes you so special?

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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I last used a melon baller to ball cantaloupe or watermelon I think

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Votecount for Day 1

CubicalSucrose (2): yuming, Rhymes With Clue
shwinnebego (2): Dans Macabre, wins32767
Dans Macabre (2): shwinnebego, Tired Moritz, shwinnebego, CubicalSucrose
Rhymes With Clue (2): shwinnebego, Maerlyn
Johnny Keats (1): Opopanax
Tired Moritz (1): Grandicap
wins32767 (0): CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose
Maerlyn (0): Opopanax, wins32767, Opopanax, wins32767

Not Voting (5): AFancyQuestionMark, fool of sound, Johnny Keats, Sandwolf, sharkmafia

With 15 alive, it's 8 votes to execute. The current deadline is March 09th, 2024 at 9 p.m. EST -- that's in about 1 day, 12 hours.

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Johnny Keats posted:

Why are we talking about not the game

Who should we talk about?

"Be the change you wish to see in the world" etc

Tired Moritz posted:

Hi, what's your flavor

##vote TM

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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third vote scum vote

That's the common trope but I DO think RWC could be scum. Initially she mentions how Opop and I could be aligned but then votes Cube saying he was being hedgy...about a knife. It feels like reluctance to vote me until wins does, and her rationale doesn't make sense


Rhymes With Clue posted:

I wasn't joking about Maer and Opop. The common denominator here is Maer though.

Maer and Grandi both votng Tired Moritz right now. Both for TM's flavor-hunting though, seems legit for D1 and also ...hmm. I could see Grandi's vote as a light defense of Maer, and Maer's as a pile-on vote. It just seems too obvious.

So I'm right to get after TM for flavor hunting but that makes me scummy because "it's too obvious"? It's a pretty odd reason for voting me...an OMGUS would make more sense.

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Dans Macabre posted:

I'm not a utensil :smug:

I am a utensil so this is weird

I just want it noted for later

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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I'm going to dinner but I'll catch up after

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Rhymes With Clue posted:

What can happen in 20 minutes?

wins was not on my radar but I think dans is town so just gonna sheep that vote and hope.

##vote wins

I know I'm riding RWC a lot this game but this is a terrible excuse for a vote/hammer on a townie (sluffing off responsibility onto dans). RWC is still in my scum column but I'll look at some of the others

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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fool you focused on grandi quite a bit D1, do you have any other thoughts on who might be scum?

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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I agree with Grandi's thoughts on the vote; I don't see Cube starting a known mis-ex as scum but I think there's a scum or two in the middle

TM looks worse to me for this that Cube pointed out:

CubicalSucrose posted:

Yeah I'd rather vote wins too but there wasn't really anyone else on board with that. Except...TMor? Who didn't even vote wins.

##vote wins


Earlier TM said he wanted to kill wins as a vibe check (what does that even mean?) but didn't vote him until closer to deadline which looks like distancing from a bad vote

##vote TM

His behavior yesterday was also weird, I want to flip him

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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I could see voting for Opop or Sand, both give me light scum pings (Sand is lurking, Opop feels kinda disengaged vaguely.... It's hard to define)

I'm not opposed to a Fancy vote but I feel like that's less likely to result in scum, the last game I played in Fancy got booted D1 because of just their behavior/lurking and were town

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Grandi is town, I feel like I've got a good read on him in this game
Cube and dans - lean town

Yuming - null, rereading her and Opop tomorrow to see if that changes my read of them
Null on fool and shark too atm

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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fool of sound posted:

I do no think that opop is clear because they survived a shot. One scum with bulletproof in a game with a vig isn't an uncommon counter.

This is a fair point, especially considering Opop claims to not know why

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Grandi acting as though I have a too strong read of him as town is weird. If you did this as scum then :golfclap: (Even if you don't think you came to any sort of conclusion the analysis itself doesn't come from a scum mindset imho)

Grandicap posted:

First vote on wins happened via shark at 7:47. An hour 10 before deadline. Shark had voted here a bit earlier, along with Cube, and Keats at various points, but at this point, he was first on board.
Nothing happens until Cube, then TM, then Dans, then shwinn vote him between 8:27 and 8:33, taking this from a single vote to 5. And it doesn't slow. Yuming and fool vote at 8:35 & 8:36, and RWC hammers at 8:36.
It goes from 1 vote to 8 votes in 9 minutes. It was such a groundswell for literally no case from any of the voters.
Shark's earlier post is

Which is the closest thing to a case.
Everything else is an empty vote.

So, was this scum trying to derail an execution on someone else? I don't see it there because Maer ended with 2 votes, RWC and Cube hopped off of her to go to wins.
Opop ended with 1, but was derailed by the failed vig... was this the hopeful scumsecution and they had to scramble when the vig blew the wind the other way.
If Maer was scum, there had been talk about her all day in some aspect or another, when wins gained traction did they just hop on to save her? If so, why wasn't Maer on the train too? And Cube and RWC hopped off of her too, and those are 2 names that I would throw in the vaguely scumbucket.

The whole way the execution went down is confusing to me. I'm looking for a pattern but am not seeing it.
I refuse to believe that scum wasn't involved, but I can't see them as a driver, that kind of groundswell can only happen by accident. I can see a scum or 2 getting caught up in it, but I don't feel like it was engineered. Especially since there is not really a clear picture of who they were trying to save.
I think shark's vote looks the best. I think RWC looks the worst, but she voted at the same time as Fool, so she might not have known it was going to be hammer, and burrito problems.
I was hoping this analysis was going to provide clarity, but it didn't.

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Opopanax posted:

https://imgur.com/a/hiVczR6

Imgur sucks now this is all I can do

I still do discord image hosting, I just know it'll die eventually

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Grandi what are your thoughts on TM?

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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To be honest I feel pretty lost in this game, most of my reads are null except the ones I've already mentioned.

I don't see Fancy as scum which is where most of the attention seems to be directed. I haven't played with them much but their posts don't give me scum vibes.

I'm gonna reread a bit more but this has been a pretty low energy D2 so nothing has jumped out at me too much.

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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fool of sound posted:

Meanwhile, Maer pointed ignoring my sus on them is very "scum playing it cool" behavior.

Dude, I've played enough to not fall into this particular trap... If I try to argue in my favor I'm "defensive" but I haven't seen anything from you worth arguing with. Most of your case seems to be how Grandi and I are linked which you'll soon find out isn't the case, I am "boosting" Grandi because I said I have a town read on him, also your vote for me is based on hypothetical scenarios instead of fact, anything else you want me to address?

fool of sound posted:

My thoughts on the end of day vote rush are that EITHER
1) scum were afraid that a deadline panic would land on you/opop, in which case scum would be in the first couple wins votes to try to push them ahead for those last minute nolunch avoidance
OR
2) the wins votes happened organically from town because of the general lack of consensus and dwindling time, in which case scum would prefer to not join the vote if they weren't already part of it. considering how fast the momentum built at the end

so, to that end: in scenario 1 shark cube mortiz, in scenario 2 opop, keats, sand, grandi, and you.

I have an uneasy feeling about your boosting of grandi today alongside of both being candidates in scenario 2, plus my lasting suspicion from day 1 on grandi. I think it's pretty possible that you and grandi are scumbuds.

As a matter of fact you argued AGAINST the cases on me as being weak D1, I actually thought you were one of the ones pushing my vote yesterday but I was mistaken:

fool of sound posted:

I really am not a fan of the nominal case on Maer at all; my meta read on their play is town and they are an easy target. I'd buy RwC in particular as scum joining momentum early.

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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fool of sound posted:

Talk me through your day 1 thought process and especially your thought process in say, the last 6 hours of the day.

My thought process about what? I wasn't even around for deadline, I went to dinner and when I was headed home saw wins had already been hammered.

I was surprised he had been voted out and I would have argued against that wagon had I been around, alas

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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If Opop is scum that would explain that swerve although I think it started organically enough, and scum just capitalized on it

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Opop's votes are based on paper thin reasoning

Opopanax posted:

Ah, so you're going to kill someone? Aha! ##vote maer

Opopanax posted:

##vote keats a Keats who doesn't cop claim? A scumful keats

He does say the keats vote was a joke but shwinn called him out for backpedaling:

Opopanax posted:

Oh I'm legit still suspicious of Maer, I just can't think of the last time I didn't see Keats cop claim so it feels better to me

shwinnebego posted:

Hm actually this is a scum post. ##vote opop

Joke vote, pull off, called out, insinuates the fake sus was real as an awkward backpedal

This is true regardless of maer’s alignment

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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##vote Opop

I think he's scum/he feels off compared to other games I've played with him and might be an informative vote considering he was on the cutting board D1 too until it changed.

fool of sound posted:

Who would you have voted for if you were present, knowing that we needed to execute SOMEBODY?

RWC or TM, the people I said looked scummy?

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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sharkmafia posted:

explain this please

are you referring to the wins swerve? because the top votes at that point were you and grandicap. opop largely wasn't under threat because several people switched off after he was shot and failed to die

At first I thought you were right but at one point the top votes were me and Opop:

CubicalSucrose posted:

Two hours left, need a lot more people to vote wins.

Votecount for Day 1

Opopanax (3): yuming, shwinnebego, shwinnebego, shwinnebego, yuming, shwinnebego, shwinnebego, sharkmafia, Johnny Keats
Maerlyn (3): Opopanax, wins32767, Opopanax, wins32767, Opopanax, wins32767, Rhymes With Clue
CubicalSucrose (1): yuming, Rhymes With Clue, yuming, Rhymes With Clue, yuming
Grandicap (1): fool of sound
shwinnebego (1): Dans Macabre, wins32767, wins32767
wins32767 (1): CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose, shwinnebego, shwinnebego, Johnny Keats, Johnny Keats, CubicalSucrose
sharkmafia (1): yuming, Sandwolf, yuming
yuming (1): Grandicap, CubicalSucrose, sharkmafia, shwinnebego, sharkmafia, shwinnebego, CubicalSucrose
Dans Macabre (1): shwinnebego, Tired Moritz, shwinnebego, CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose
Tired Moritz (1): Grandicap, Maerlyn, Grandicap
Johnny Keats (0): Opopanax, Opopanax
AFancyQuestionMark (0): yuming, yuming
Rhymes With Clue (0): shwinnebego, Maerlyn, Maerlyn, shwinnebego
Sandwolf (0): CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose

Not Voting (1): AFancyQuestionMark

With 15 alive, it's 8 votes to execute. The current deadline is March 09th, 2024 at 9 p.m. EST -- that's in about 1 hour, 59 minutes.

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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the evil step-son

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I don't care if I get voted out but Opop dodging the vote two days in a row would be worth exploring further D3.

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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Votecount for Day 2

Opopanax (4): Johnny Keats, yuming, AFancyQuestionMark, yuming, CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose, Maerlyn, Rhymes With Clue
AFancyQuestionMark (4): yuming, yuming, Dans Macabre, yuming, Sandwolf, CubicalSucrose
Maerlyn (2): Grandicap, CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose, fool of sound
Rhymes With Clue (1): sharkmafia
Johnny Keats (0): Dans Macabre, Opopanax, Dans Macabre, Opopanax
Dans Macabre (0): CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose
Tired Moritz (0): Maerlyn, Maerlyn
Sandwolf (0): Opopanax, Opopanax

Not Voting (2): Opopanax, Tired Moritz

With 13 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is March 12th, 2024 at 9 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 1 hour, 7 minutes.

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Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

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about an hour left, I'll be around

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