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I should be in bed. You ever just have something nagging at the back of your brain all day? Something didn't sit right with me about Hal's claim. It felt too familiar. So I went back thru some of Hal's old games that we were both in. (Side note: Hal you play too many games. Sheesh.) Folx, this is Hal's role from Thanksgiving Mafia PhantomMuzzles posted:Hal Incandenza, TOWN-Aligned bringer of Frozen Peas In that game Hal could form unconfirmed masonries, and then kill his partners. The pea thing was just something to limit his choices, unlike this game where he could apparently mason anyone. I do not believe in coincidences like this. Hal gets the same role in two different games? Masonizers that can kill is not common, which is what pinged me in the first place. Hal is lying about his power and I can only think it was to hide his ability to kill from the gunsmith. ##vote Hal
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I'm also highly suspicious of TMor, who should have remembered that Hal role as well, considered TMor is the one Hal killed in that game.
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May 25, 2024 05:30
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Sorry I flatout delete games that I lose in from my mond
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May 25, 2024 05:31
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SporkChan posted:I should be in bed. Nope. If you think for a minute that I remember any specific old role that wasn't some extraordinary role or a fake claim I made then you give me too much credit. Also I've been in so many games that unless it's a super complex role I've probably had it before. Did I live long in that game? I am almost certain I never used that actual power.
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May 25, 2024 06:40
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SporkChan posted:I'm also highly suspicious of TMor, who should have remembered that Hal role as well, considered TMor is the one Hal killed in that game. Oh I guess I did use it!
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May 25, 2024 06:40
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I am sure obschat is loving this though
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May 25, 2024 06:40
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Oh geez seems like I not only used it but it lost the game, dang. Retroactive apologies TM
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May 25, 2024 06:42
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Anyway, it's exhausting dealing with yet another thing in this game, so do what you are going to do. Seems like you should have another day but you'll have to go 3 for 3 going forward so it will be tough. Fwiw I have never fake claimed a role I previously had in... 700+ games, and I sure didn't do that here. Feels kinda cheap and making up fake claims is the whole fun of fake claims. I'm going to go enjoy my vacation now, scum I'm sure this is just amazing for you and I look forward to reading the scumchat later.
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My flavor (not that it probably matters) is I'm a foot washing mansion which is gross but maybe that means something to someone who knows more about the game
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Lol Mycelia was in that thanksgiving game, I bet THATS who remembered the role
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May 25, 2024 07:15
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SporkChan posted:What? Why wouldn't you? It's you or FoS today, you should be arguing for why it's not you a little. I trust that enough people will vote FoS. If the vote is a sweep with his scumbuds bussing, that's less helpful. If they believe they have a chance to get me voted out, that will make FoS's vote-out much more information rich
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fool of sound posted:Keats why did you choose yuming to be the perma-beneficiary of your bodyguard protection despite the miller claim? I didn't claim anything of the sort but I thought she was townie
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SporkChan posted:I should be in bed. Is this actually the vote you prefer for today?
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May 25, 2024 13:20
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Today I went to a real life mafia game meetup but I got spooked and ended playing with a bunch of board games with other peeps I played Modern Art, Finding Planet X and some terrible game called Photosynthesis. It was fun
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Sounds like fun  I’d like to try playing mafia with my gaming group but I worry I’m not a good enough in person mod. I am going to see the azaleas in bloom!
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May 25, 2024 13:47
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Johnny Keats posted:I trust that enough people will vote FoS. If the vote is a sweep with his scumbuds bussing, that's less helpful. If they believe they have a chance to get me voted out, that will make FoS's vote-out much more information rich So to be clear, you think FoS should and will be voted out today. But you aren't going to offer a defense of yourself, or even much of a case for FoS. You aren't going to give other scum reads, because that would somehow be helpful to scum. Like, I get why you would be voting for Fool in this situation, but you seem very apathetic to playing the rest of the game. Just telling us we will all figure it out after Fool flips isn't really helpful to the rest of us.
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Nutsack Rangoon posted:Is this actually the vote you prefer for today? Yes? That's why I voted for Hal. I think Hal is lying about his role, and I gave my evidence for that. I think he is scum because of lying about his role at this point in the game. I also didn't like Hal's series of posts overnight about this issue, I don't think I've seen Hal make a series of posts all by himself like that before. Felt like scrambling to come up with an explanation.
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May 25, 2024 15:16
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SporkChan posted:Yes? That's why I voted for Hal. I think that's weird then. We have guaranteed maf between FoS/Keats and presumably only one more misvote available. Voting outside of those two is a recipe for fumbling this game as town right now imo.
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My preference over all is for Keats today. In the event that FoS is town, he could at least provide us a tracker result tomorrow. Keats as town provides nothing tomorrow. Also, like Keats says today and I said previously, his flip would provide more information to solving N2 kill (Hal/ninja/poisoner).
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May 25, 2024 16:34
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Nutsack Rangoon posted:I think that's weird then. We have guaranteed maf between FoS/Keats and presumably only one more misvote available. Voting outside of those two is a recipe for fumbling this game as town right now imo. So? I already said that I think Keats is the worse of the pair, and I'll vote there to secure an elimination later if needed. But I'm finding Hal more suspicious right now and I'd be happy with voting him as well. Even knowing there is a scum in the Keats/FoS pair shouldn't limit us to only thinking about them. There is at least one scum, probably two outside that pair left to find.
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SporkChan posted:So? I wasn't saying we shouldn't talk about other players. I was asking if you preferred Hal > FoS/Keats and that's what I thought was weird.
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Tbh I think I've cooled on Hal overnight. After my review last night I'm very convinced that we're looking at a keat/yuming team and I'm not sure that Hal fits into that compared to TMor. TMor being unable to LR killing actions feels like a very pro-scum role; an LR that can't protect is really just a "gently caress with investigative powers" role.
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I'm not completely ruling out Hal cause we do have a result of course, but I think he's no higher than 4th on my list after re-examining.
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I use a vote as a capstone or punctuation on an argument. Right now I feel more certain Hal is scum than either of Keats or FoS. I know there is a scum in that pairing, but I have more confidence in my Hal case than I do on any case for either of the other two. As you said, a misyeet today would be bad for us, and I think voting out Hal is the more sure thing.
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SporkChan posted:So to be clear, you think FoS should and will be voted out today. But you aren't going to offer a defense of yourself, or even much of a case for FoS. You aren't going to give other scum reads, because that would somehow be helpful to scum. I have said I think Hal is caught and given suspicions on others too like Nutsack. I do not see a reason to push those today even to leave thoughts on the record in the event I die? I definitely don't think I'll be nightkilled but even so, I want FoS to die today, so I don't want people switching to my other scumreads.
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Again, we have three real loving weird rear end claims running around: ---Keats: "crazy mod might say I can kill", sounds like bodyguard but rejects categorization as a bodyguard, no claimed night action since N1, "doesn't want to disclose how their action recharges", no evidence whatsoever that their claimed action exists or does anything. ---Yuming: does have a confirmed non-lethal action BUT miller claim (specifically claims to have asked the mod and been told that she investigates as scum) in a game with no apparently alignment investigation, no evidence that the action actually gives those visited an item/passive effect. no solid indication that any of these items have done anything. ---TMor: confirmed LR ability on an investigative role N2 but later claims that their LR can't affect kills, which makes it functionally just negative utility as a town role.
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Johnny Keats posted:I have said I think Hal is caught and given suspicions on others too like Nutsack. I do not see a reason to push those today even to leave thoughts on the record in the event I die? I definitely don't think I'll be nightkilled but even so, I want FoS to die today, so I don't want people switching to my other scumreads. No you're just lying about having those reads/believing that Hal is scum lol.
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Don't forget the unbelievable claim of BP that becomes a vig after getting targeted.
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fool of sound posted:No you're just lying about having those reads/believing that Hal is scum lol. Oh okay.
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Can we please, please just end this day. It’s a holiday weekend, and this conversation became cyclical, yesterday. I’ll kill Keats or FoS I do not care anymore.
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Sandwolf posted:Can we please, please just end this day. It’s a holiday weekend, and this conversation became cyclical, yesterday. Then let's kill the guy who won't participate in the conversation and pinky promises that his role is real and he has real reads that he'll share tomorrow.
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Keats' content has been fake as gently caress content lurking all game. Just smug tangential nonsense that's non-responsive to actual play.
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fool of sound posted:Then let's kill the guy who won't participate in the conversation and pinky promises that his role is real and he has real reads that he'll share tomorrow. Sure, I’m down
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Like how can anyone look at Keats' posting and say "yeah this is a dude who's trying to solve this game"?
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May 25, 2024 17:26
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omg deadline is more than 24 hours away
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vooooooote keeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaats
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fool of sound posted:Like how can anyone look at Keats' posting and say "yeah this is a dude who's trying to solve this game"? Because he has irony poisoned his own behavior, this is how he plays anytime he gets any heat. He just muddies the waters to the nth degree, feigns some emotional poo poo, and then everyone feels bad. It’s fully disconnected from actual persuasive argument. But then he flips town.
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I mean, you're not wrong as such but town keats isn't evasive like he has been on prior days, spending most of his postcount complaining about ciphers or having some loving bizarre hair-splitting go-nowhere feud with rangoon that keats clearly never actually believed since he never bothered pushing for a vote.
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Town keats has reads and theories of the game. This keats has been pretending to play all game.
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##vote Keats
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