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I'm going to bed in a while, still going to give it a little consideration on where I'll leave my vote
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Johnny Keats posted:That wouldn't confirm Sandwolf Yes, that's why I added the "more or less" modifier there.
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May 19, 2024 22:28
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CubicalSucrose posted:FoS reacted very strongly to me then has seemed to fade a bit, not sure I like that much. I’m standing by my read of Cube here.
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May 19, 2024 22:37
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yuming posted:My preference is Illu >> FoS. what's your read of Cube again?
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May 19, 2024 22:42
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Nutsack Rangoon posted:He's also faking it here. My message clearly and concisely explained that I had set up a separate code for yuming and was now bringing Keats in with a separate code. And then you talked about a "channel" with Yuming right after that. Leaving aside how in no possible world can you describe the ciphers with Yuming as a "channel", it was the only time you talked about it like that so it was weird. But what's weirdest is you grandstanding about it right now saying I'm faking
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May 19, 2024 22:47
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You said, in my own words, "apart from my channel with Yuming I also am in a masonry with Hal." Someone who's not Nutsack tell me I'm wrong for asking about that
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May 19, 2024 22:48
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Not seeing it
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May 19, 2024 22:50
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Tired Moritz posted:dont care about codes chat and im more bothered that there are so many lurkers. feels like theres like only six players (sandwolf, cube, keats, space, illu, nutsack) That's funny because other people have also said I'm lurking
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May 19, 2024 22:50
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Opopanax posted:Not seeing it You wouldn't ask about it? Okay. Do you find Nutsack's response and attitude proportionate?
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May 19, 2024 22:52
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Johnny Keats posted:You said, in my own words, "apart from my channel with Yuming I also am in a masonry with Hal." Someone who's not Nutsack tell me I'm wrong for asking about that I can see why there would be a misunderstanding
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May 19, 2024 22:52
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Sandwolf posted:what's your read of Cube again?
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May 19, 2024 22:53
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Johnny Keats posted:And then you talked about a "channel" with Yuming right after that. Leaving aside how in no possible world can you describe the ciphers with Yuming as a "channel", it was the only time you talked about it like that so it was weird. But what's weirdest is you grandstanding about it right now saying I'm faking You're a squirmy little guy Again, he's bullshitting here. I explicitly told him that I had established the code w yuming the day previously and that it was in-thread communications.
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May 19, 2024 22:54
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Johnny Keats posted:You wouldn't ask about it? Okay. Do you find Nutsack's response and attitude proportionate? I mean asking is one thing, but "opening a channel" can mean sending a message. He's right that you're blowing the whole thing out of proportion.
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May 19, 2024 22:55
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I do think I nailed the Keats timeline and very obvious non-town POV. There's no reason I can think of that if he were town he would be trying to refute it by misrepresenting my prior messages w him.
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May 19, 2024 22:56
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Sandwolf posted:I think it’s extremely telling that Keats and Cube are desperate to delegitimize the eccocop result. Coming back to this because it's an interesting post. This isn't me disbelieving your claim or believing it necessarily but for the sake of argument I'll treat it as real. I understand being Cube's claim does already delegitimize your result. I didn't need to do anything. Whether or not Cube is scum, he would need to be lying town without a killing role for your result to really mean anything. It got Cube's claim on the table. Be satisfied with that effect of your results. Trying to milk more out of them then that is just clinging to results. You did fine, get more results tomorrow
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May 19, 2024 22:57
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Johnny Keats posted:Coming back to this because it's an interesting post. This isn't me disbelieving your claim or believing it necessarily but for the sake of argument I'll treat it as real. I understand being attached to your results, but Cube's claim does already delegitimize your result. I didn't need to do anything. Whether or not Cube is scum, he would need to be lying town without a killing role for your result to really mean anything. It got Cube's claim on the table. Be satisfied with that effect of your results. Trying to milk more out of them then that is just clinging to results. You did fine, get more results tomorrow Edit
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May 19, 2024 22:58
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I was explicitly told that I can't copy-paste messages. Every time Keats has claimed something about them, I've gone back and double checked and there's no room for the misunderstandings that he's trying to claim.
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May 19, 2024 23:00
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Why are you continuing to double down on this? It's like you turned on me the moment I suggested in my message reply that I suspected you. Now I actually am getting flashbacks to the Hambeet message fiasco
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May 19, 2024 23:01
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Johnny Keats posted:Why are you continuing to double down on this? It's like you turned on me the moment I suggested in my message reply that I suspected you. Now I actually am getting flashbacks to the Hambeet message fiasco He can't stop doing it lol My preference is very, very much Keats today
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May 19, 2024 23:05
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I can't stop doing what??
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May 19, 2024 23:07
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Opopanax posted:He's right that you're blowing the whole thing out of proportion. Hold on... which one of us is blowing it out of proportion?
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May 19, 2024 23:08
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Johnny Keats posted:Hold on... which one of us is blowing it out of proportion? You, just like with the message stuff in general. Nutsack kind of is too, but he's just returning your level of energy
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May 19, 2024 23:09
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That said I'm not really interested in voting keats today
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May 19, 2024 23:10
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Well this is interesting now, there is some chance for a misunderstanding with the having to paraphrase out of thread communications, but given that Nutsack and Keats are explicitly claiming different contents of messages it seems like one of them is scum. The one thing that does give me pause there is why would a scum player lie to place themselves in such a blatant one-to-one situation, but well the Hambeet stuff did happen too
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May 19, 2024 23:12
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Opopanax posted:You, just like with the message stuff in general. Nutsack kind of is too, but he's just returning your level of energy You have the order of events backward and that's the last I'll argue about it until you actually check what you're talking about before posting. This is a really pointless argument and the fact that I'm even typing these words about it is going to make it look like I'm mad about it in proportion to the amount of words I type, but you will just have to be wise enough to see past that fallacy and read me neutrally because I don't feel like ignoring it and letting a bad narrative take root in thread. I asked an innocent question that, you will notice, Yuming gave a completely civilized response to which ended my concern with the matter. That is, until Nutsack brought it back
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May 19, 2024 23:13
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Johnny Keats posted:Coming back to this because it's an interesting post. This isn't me disbelieving your claim or believing it necessarily but for the sake of argument I'll treat it as real. I understand being Cube's claim does already delegitimize your result. I didn't need to do anything. Whether or not Cube is scum, he would need to be lying town without a killing role for your result to really mean anything. It got Cube's claim on the table. Be satisfied with that effect of your results. Trying to milk more out of them then that is just clinging to results. You did fine, get more results tomorrow This is a weird rear end post though
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May 19, 2024 23:13
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Illusionis posted:This is a weird rear end post though Not really. Why does Sandwilf care about his result on me and FoS? Have you thought about that?
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May 19, 2024 23:15
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imo a ecco cop isnt that important until at least you have two batches of results to do a venn diagram with
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May 19, 2024 23:17
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Illusionis posted:This is a weird rear end post though I was trying to parse that one as well. Keats can you rephrase?
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May 19, 2024 23:19
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Johnny Keats posted:I asked him if he was scum Johnny Keats posted:Why are you continuing to double down on this? It's like you turned on me the moment I suggested in my message reply that I suspected you. Now I actually am getting flashbacks to the Hambeet message fiasco Here's Keats contradicting his own drat self (Let the record show the first post is where he was telling the truth)
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May 19, 2024 23:20
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SporkChan posted:I was trying to parse that one as well. I really don't understand which part is confusing. We do not have any information about me or FoS based on Sandwolf's results, so long as Cube has a killing role like he claims
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May 19, 2024 23:20
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Johnny Keats posted:Not really. Why does Sandwilf care about his result on me and FoS? Have you thought about that? Ah I guess I see the perspective you're coming from with it, still it does feel a bit odd in the sense that it's almost coming from a place where you know Cube is town
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May 19, 2024 23:20
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Nutsack Rangoon posted:Here's Keats contradicting his own drat self Asking if you're scum = suggesting I'm suspicious of you
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May 19, 2024 23:20
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Johnny Keats posted:Not really. Why does Sandwilf care about his result on me and FoS? Have you thought about that? I mean, even if Cube does flip scum, you or FoS can still be scum. Or hell, both. Maybe Sand got all three with his first test. So it makes sense to me for Sand to be paying attention to all three of his eccocopped targets, even if one has claimed a role that would explain the result.
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May 19, 2024 23:21
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Johnny Keats posted:You have the order of events backward and that's the last I'll argue about it until you actually check what you're talking about before posting. Keats are you sending your own coded messages with these?
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May 19, 2024 23:21
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Illusionis posted:that it's almost coming from a place where you know Cube is town No? It's a place of thinking if he's town he has a killing role like he claims
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May 19, 2024 23:21
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yuming posted:Him thinking about NL D1 just doesn’t feel like something scumCube does. It’s shows a town POV in line with the role he’s claimed. Hrm, not something I recalled happening
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May 19, 2024 23:22
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SporkChan posted:I mean, even if Cube does flip scum, you or FoS can still be scum. Or hell, both. Maybe Sand got all three with his first test. Um, yes but it makes exactly equal sense for him to pay attention to us as it makes sense for him to pay attention to any other player he has 0 information about. Hence it does not make sense to pay attention to exactly only us
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May 19, 2024 23:24
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Sand is voting Cube already. I do see what you mean Keats where his results can be explained away by Cube. But I also don't think it means anything one way or another that Sand's thoughts have stayed on you and FoS even after Cubes claim.
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Johnny Keats posted:No? It's a place of thinking if he's town he has a killing role like he claims I mean yes, but I feel like to get there and to word it like that you have to have no interest in flipping Cube at all, which taking a look back I suppose you did say he was on your town list
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