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Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.
can i play and may i please be town?

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Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.

Hal Incandenza posted:

Is Spacebanito actually Juanito? That would be like an amazing blast from the old days

vote tracker still running? that saved aliases.

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.

mycelia posted:

You may!!

Mod confirmed town. gg. :cool:

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.
Pretty skeptical of yuming's miller claim but I haven't played in a long time. Has she got more comfortable playing not-town?

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.

Mostly fueled by decade all memories:

She's a strong player that attracts NKs and actions. Feels like a way a to get ahead of not getting NK'd or investigated for a player that doesn't feel comfortable being scum.

Also, imo, the yuming play for flipping miller should be to play a good game and likely get NK'd.

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.

fool of sound posted:

I honestly don't think that yuming, who is WILDLY uncomfortable as scum to the point of barely playing, pulls a d1 gambit that puts attention on her tbh.

Idk still gets her ahead of everything and I do think it's easier to talk flavor/role bullshit as scum than play a fake town game

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.

Hal Incandenza posted:

Vig Sandwolf before he vigs me
Investigate no one because investigations are not cool man
Mason nutsack probably so we can talk about how people think he’s a new player

Nah, we'd be chatting Infinite Jest

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.

SporkChan posted:

Vig Nutsack Rangoon as a welcome back!

Cop Cube. He's a great player either town or scum, want to know which he is.

Mason yuming, to get a feel for the mason claim

Have we played before?

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.

yuming posted:

Okay so let’s talk Fancy.

When I made my claim this is his initial reaction ^^above

Next, a quick hit of calling Cube and I scum together.

Jokey response to getting voted.

Seems like he was floating a vote on me but then backed off and hasn’t really engaged with me directly. Scummy.

Any thoughts on them claiming an investigative role out the gate?

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.

Opopanax posted:

Ok Sonic (because you are hogging all the hedge, here)

I don't really see how you're reading this is as a hedge?

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.

yuming posted:

I took it with a grain of salt. While he was really specific, the meta these days is many players make claims early to gauge reactions.

I think his reaction to my claim stood out.

What's the play after? Just "haha it was to make things happen D1?"

Pains me to know the way I knew the game has changed.. please just don't tell me lumpenlists have fallen out of favor..

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.

yuming posted:

I took it with a grain of salt. While he was really specific, the meta these days is many players make claims early to gauge reactions.

I think his reaction to my claim stood out.

Also, I guess, do you do this too?

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.

Opopanax posted:

You don't see how "I think yuming claimed Miller because she is scum or because she's town but also I'm suspicious of the claim" is hedging?

Where ddi I say or if she's town? I think claiming miller from the rip is a bad look and everything in that post is about how it is.

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.

Tired Moritz posted:

Okay nutsack is town

I was just about to vote you. You got any other thoughts?

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.
##vote Tired Moritz

Was gonna vote just on inactivity. I don't like popping in to make a town call (unhelpful for the town, easy to do as maf), disappearing to reread the thread, and then coming back with that lame hunch. Reads uninterested maf to me.

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.
I'll be back an hour or two before deadline. I'd like to hear more from Hal (generally) and Opop (about something besides my post wrt yuming).

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.

Opopanax posted:

So what then, she's scum claiming miller so that she won't get NKed?

You have bad reading comprehension. Maf doesn't get NK'd so a miller claim would serve her interests as a reason she didn't die every night.

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.

Opopanax posted:

Ok rude, but fine

I do want to know what else you think about the wider game

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.

AFancyQuestionMark posted:

Speaking of garbage zero-reasoning votes

Idk I get it

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.

CubicalSucrose posted:

##vote Sporkchan

What results do you get?

This stinks. Please, expound.

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.
I like Moritz still for maf.

Opop, I like too. Couple joke phase posts and then tunneling on a misread post and nothing about the rest of the game.

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.
I like AFQM > Cubical

We got another vote for hammer? I'll be here til deadline

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.

AFancyQuestionMark posted:

Please explain why you think I am scum but FoS or cube are town

You'd be posting a lot of empty criticism, role speculation earlier. Reads incurious but trying to participate.

I don't really have a town read on Cube but don't agree with the reasoning of Spork. I don't think Hal necessarily reads town from his few posts here and I definitely didn't think of him as such pre-Spork's case.

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.
*You'd been

I don't know if that's proper English but that's what I was trying to say

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.
I'll hammer at like a minute to deadline. I want people to be able to talk til then.

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.
##vote Tired Moritz

Summoning him back to the thread

Is there a basis for interest in Keats beyond just low-substance participation?

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

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CubicalSucrose posted:

I kinda want to vote Hal or Spork. Yeah Hal volunteered for info role stuff, which turned out to be a little dud-ish and wasn't relevant because AFQM got yeeted. Even if AFQM were alive, scum could've plausibly roleblocked or redirected or just killed them. I don't think it's as town-cleary as Spork was suggesting.

I don't like this post.

Reasoning's off (since all that transpired was pre-AFQM getting voted off).

I agree that I don't think Spork's thinking justified the strong read on Hal. I do think the way Spork approached it read very townie and it's weird to be floating the two of them as a vote target.

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

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yuming posted:

Rangoon, I can't tell where we stand. I have a p neutral read of you but I want to trust you.

It seems like you were calling me scummy D1, is that the case? Can you explain a bit more?

I thought your miller claim was scummy for the reason I explained then. It seems like I'm the only player that wouldn't have claimed miller if given that role though.

Your play otherwise reads townie to me.

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

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SporkChan posted:

Wait, really? Why?

Didn't feel like anyone was listening to me yesterday.

I thnik we listened. I didn't agree with your case but you were one of my stronger town reads yesterday so I think if Opop saved you, we might be thinking parallel.

I like the case on Illu. I had what I thought was also a moment of parallel thinking with Sandwolf D1 that made me lean town but am more ambivalent today.

I'd like to know what people think about Moritz. He's super low participation and has only been coming in to chime on the weakest stuff. I think him weighing in on the validity of yuming's miller claim and not recognizing the context was ongoing town/maf vibes reads really bad too.

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

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Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

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Opopanax posted:

FLOWDNAS ETOV

drat.. when you're right you're right..

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

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CubicalSucrose posted:

Yeah let's do it, me vs. FoS vs. Spork. We still have over two full real days until deadline.

What do you mean by this?

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

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What's an ecco cop?

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

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Wtf is an ecco gunsmith

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

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Illusionis posted:

Targets 3 player, tells if the group contains scum/non-town or not, I think reading this as a softclaim of such is pretty drat reaching

Illusionis posted:

To note, people love to talk about ecco-cops, but they're drat rare to actually see and especially rare in small games because the role is really obscenely powerful when you have a smaller group to choose from

Illusionis posted:

I mean Sand can prove me wrong by actually claiming it, but before that I see no drat reason to suddenly take a random list of 3 players somebody finds scummy as a ecco-cop softclaim

I might be putting the cart before the horse on this:

This poo poo was bothering me before. Thought it was weird how hard he was pouring cold water on the potential for an ecco cop. At the time, I thought if Sandwolf was an ecco cop then Illu was probably town because it was too stupid and obvious to poo poo on this as maf.

With the gunsmith claim, I think that it could make wayyy more sense to poo poo on it as maf. Maf seeing the soft ecco cop would be able to (more or less) suspect it's truth or absolutely know it's wrong. Totally safe to poo poo on if the suspected ecco cop targets are three townies. Gunsmith thing obviously changes that and with Cube's vig-claim it's definitely possible he hit 3 townies.

Also, correct me if I'm getting something wrong in my thinking here. Ecco cop was loving w my head and I went and took a break to puzzle over ecco gunsmith poo poo.

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

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Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

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fool of sound posted:

That's self evident: Millers and ecco cops are not weird roles. Bulletproof isn't weird either. "Everyone might be bulletproof and their powers key of off expending that protection" is a wild, insane reach.

Do you think his claim is fake or just not well thought out?

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

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Sandwolf posted:

Tempted to kill Cube here, actually. I do not know if being a town vig that cannot kill yet would trigger a false positive. The wording I have for positives is “has a killing action.”

It makes sense to me that that would count as a killing action.

Regardless of that, do you think it makes sense to claim that role in that context? Thread seems generally more interested in FoS > Cube. Feel like the maf move would be to lay low and hopefully get voted out last.

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.
Weird tantrum

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Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.

CubicalSucrose posted:

I keep thinking "Space Bandito."

I'll probably give the decoding thing another attempt later tonight, since we still have over a day to go.

Also weird. Do you think that breaking the code is productive for the town? Do you not think if there was information worth sharing widely, it would be?

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