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fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
ok

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fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Totally unfamiliar with this game but it def feels very mafia lol

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

CubicalSucrose posted:

I'm going to try my best to actually post townie this game

Really think you've already failed!!

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Spacebanito posted:

Meanwhile, I've been out of the game so long I don't even remember how to not be in the awkward standing around at the beginning of day1 phase of things except by swinging wildly so. Yknow. Be warned for that, I guess.

Awkwardly standing around is all but meta for day 1 anyway lol

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

AFancyQuestionMark posted:

I can investigate certain things about my target. Who volunteers to be my target for N1?

Can't imagine why you're volunteering to be the night 1 kill unless you're banking on a watcher lol.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

yuming posted:

I’m a miller ! !

Keats is that you?

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Johnny Keats posted:

Thanks for the heads up but I already loverized myself with you

Er, what you’re saying is cube doesn’t know it yet but you’re their best friend in this game???

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Really don't think that we should bother debating if a death miller claim is serious. It's not. I read yuming's as a joke too honestly.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

yuming posted:

I am trying not to quote my role. What I’m saying is it’s not worded “you investigate as scum.”

That sounds like a flavor miller. They've been popular in role madness-y games lately. Like, for example, in touhou mafia town youkai were flavor millers.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Nutsack Rangoon posted:

Mostly fueled by decade all memories:

She's a strong player that attracts NKs and actions. Feels like a way a to get ahead of not getting NK'd or investigated for a player that doesn't feel comfortable being scum.

Also, imo, the yuming play for flipping miller should be to play a good game and likely get NK'd.

I honestly don't think that yuming, who is WILDLY uncomfortable as scum to the point of barely playing, pulls a d1 gambit that puts attention on her tbh.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

CubicalSucrose posted:

Seems like scum.

That's no way to treat the local bulletproof seer/vig

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Holy poo poo I didn't know deadline was so soon uh gently caress

##vote opop

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
This is just because they always read as scummy and I know that I'm going to end up tunneling them by day 3 for lurking and only popping out to defend themself.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

AFancyQuestionMark posted:

This is not the sort of vote you make on a non vote leader an hour away from deadline

o ok let me fix that

##vote AFQM

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
seriously tho "why aren't you voting a leader???" when the leaders have... 2 votes on them is loving nonsense.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
I think that the targets for today are the people who didn't want to join in a last minute vote: Spork, Cube, Nutsack, Hal, TMor. Refusing to join a deadline ex of a town player is a common scum strategy; I do it all the time. I think Cube/Spork/Nutsack are the better targets of those, since not voting at all is more indicative of just hard lurking than scum refusing to vote on a foregone conclusion for cred.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Hal Incandenza posted:

I don’t really find this to be a wise path to travel down

Why? Refusing a join a town yeet and then throwing shade on town who did is classic scum behavior, and usually a pretty good strategy.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Tired Moritz posted:

Why? Refusing seems like a strong word when I wasnt on my keyboard

fool of sound posted:

I think that the targets for today are the people who didn't want to join in a last minute vote: Spork, Cube, Nutsack, Hal, TMor. Refusing to join a deadline ex of a town player is a common scum strategy; I do it all the time. I think Cube/Spork/Nutsack are the better targets of those, since not voting at all is more indicative of just hard lurking than scum refusing to vote on a foregone conclusion for cred.

I think cube or spork are my top targets.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Spacebanito posted:

Yeah, but nobody has done this yet, and it is weird to bring it up already? Like, there was a solid chance I didn't vote either, except I was really quite confident(wrongly, apparently) of Fancy. I know I said a positive thing about this general mindset, but not to this extent? Mostly just as a "we shouldn't assume all the scum are within the subset of people who DID vote"

I think we're violently agreeing. Like, balance of probability is that there's scum somewhere in the AFQM vote, but I think the probability of hitting scum is better outside of that vote.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Tired Moritz posted:

Why are people town clearing so early when we have no concrete info

What? Who is town clearing?

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

CubicalSucrose posted:

FoS, would you have tripped a gunsmith investigation?

No, that claim was a joke lol. I have an action but it's non-lethal.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Anyway, that's a scummy rear end question and I think you know that my claim was fake. There's no pressing reason to disbelieve sand's results.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
##vote cube

If there's scum between keats and cube then I'm going cube.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

CubicalSucrose posted:

I thought for a while that maybe that was the "vanilla" equivalent this game

This is nonsense

CubicalSucrose posted:

This is why I was hesitant to actually vote someone out D1, because if all town were BP, then we'd be more likely to get a free night vs. getting a BP to flip and then scum would know a bit more info.

This is nonsense.


CubicalSucrose posted:

FoS's post yesterday is still really weird.

Buddy even if that was a real role I would never claim in N1 lol. That would be moronic.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Spacebanito posted:

And the reason why is it's dumb to just reply to a train of thought with 'no' instead of actually refuting it with anything. Why is "I was BP and thought everyone might be" more of a nonsense claim than Miller, ecco cop, or the eavesdropper we saw flip? Roles this game seem a bit more on the esoteric side, so I find this very believable.

That's self evident: Millers and ecco cops are not weird roles. Bulletproof isn't weird either. "Everyone might be bulletproof and their powers key of off expending that protection" is a wild, insane reach.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Anyway I'm basically a supertracker. I target someone and track the next action they take, either the night of the track or thereafter. I can only detect one action per person.

My first letter of my first seven posts this game spell out tracker.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Nutsack Rangoon posted:

Do you think his claim is fake or just not well thought out?

I have no opinion on if cube's claim is real. My objection is cube deciding that because their own role is "becomes a vig when BP is expended" that everyone else has a similar stipulation on their role, and using that supposition (and pretending to believe my obvious overpowered joke claim) to cast doubt on sandwolf's result.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Lying low doesn't work when there's a soft result on someone. That's a trick scum players pull when someone asks them a question they don't want to answer lol. Once a result is out it has to be responded to.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
I'm leaning wrong town on illu. They tend to be less confrontational as scum ime. That says, yuming is playing the game and is almost certainly therefore firmly town as far as my experience with her goes.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
I'm pretty much settled on a cube vote today though: they were one of the people I thought were suspicious for declining to join the AFQM vote yesterday, and also have a soft result on them. Especially since they've now claimed vig to try to dispel that result.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Nutsack Rangoon posted:

FoS claimed tracker but no results? Think it's best that gets disclosed.

I'm not disclosing my target because if they took no action, I basically auto-track their next one.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
My general thoughts:

Cube remains my top vote; they're scum overreaching with their role claim and weird fake assumptions about a whole-game gimmick because they got caught by sand's echocop.

I'm reading through keats/spaceburrito's bizarre conflict and it feels very forced from keats. I'm weak town lean on SB I think keats' case doesn't make sense and seems designed more to have a beef for content than actually convince anyone. Could be distancing, could be keats faking content, could just be keats getting a weird bug up their rear end; it's happened before. I could see scum there but I think cube is a way better choice for eliminating someone inside the investigation.

Spork is my third major scum candidate for their end of d1 voting behavior. Their case on cube feels... a little over-explained kind of out of nowhere for someone who normally makes shorter posts than that?

Opop is a hard null and I kinda suspect will remain that way since their town play is just as lurky and unhelpful to town as their scum play. Dude always plays like a survivor.

Yuming is a firm town read. I just saw their scum play in the last game I ran and even when scum was under minimal pressure almost all of their posts were to the effect of "hi!!" ->two hours later->"i'll have thoughts later!!"->four hours later->repeat. Illu's reads feel like wrong town from someone who hasn't seen yuming playing scum lately.

I'm working under the assumption of townwolf for the result and I think that is largely supported by their posting. I think if scum was playing games with a fake result they'd be harping on about it much harder rather than they to scumhunt.

I suspect we have lurking scum somewhere in TMor, Hal, or Nutsack but I don't really have a strong enough feeling to hazard a guess on them.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

CubicalSucrose posted:

All right well:

peaceful night best i can tell i have nothing to report last night though my action appears to have been successful did you add spacebanito to our message chain
thornyvine

archimedes no msged keats no response yet recruited to unconfirmed masonry w hal last night
paranormal

So you visited yuming last night?

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Wait no i misunderstood what was happening lol

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Was going to say that was at odds with cube's claim but nevermind

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
ok great thanks cube for decoding the boring masonry message lol

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Ok well now that we've established that the code isn't an in-thread confession we really need to get around to actually voting. We have 8 hours.

Votecount for Day 2

CubicalSucrose (2): fool of sound, SporkChan
Illusionis (1): yuming, yuming, yuming
fool of sound (1): CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose, Illusionis, Johnny Keats, Spacebanito, CubicalSucrose, Illusionis, Spacebanito
yuming (1): Illusionis, Illusionis, Illusionis
Tired Moritz (1): Nutsack Rangoon, Spacebanito, Spacebanito, Spacebanito, Nutsack Rangoon
Johnny Keats (1): Nutsack Rangoon
Opopanax (0): Johnny Keats, Johnny Keats
Sandwolf (0): Opopanax, Opopanax

Not Voting (5): CubicalSucrose, Hal Incandenza, Opopanax, Sandwolf, Tired Moritz

With 12 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is May 19th, 2024 at 11:59 p.m. UTC -- that's in about 8 hours, 15 minutes.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
I'm interested in voting cube first and foremost, then keats, then spork as a distant third at this point. I really think we ought to kill cube as the claimed killing role detected by the eccosmith.

I'm always open to voting opop just because their unhelpful town play and their scum play are indistinguishable. I could maybe be talked into TM/Hal/Nutsack if we really must but I don't think it's a good idea.

I'm not open to voting yuming, illu, or sand today.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

fool of sound posted:

I really think we ought to kill cube as the claimed killing role detected by the eccosmith.

To elaborate on this, not only did cube claim a killing role after the eccosmith result was claimed, but also tried to act like my obvious joke role was a killing role to further invalidate the result. Sandwolf would absolutely not have targeted me for the smith if they believed by joke claim.

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fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

CubicalSucrose posted:

I think TMor or Hal today are my preferences.

Lazy deflection to lurkers...

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