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June CE: americans discover vegetables may have flavour
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Mass market arugula in America also has a pleasant peppery flavor though
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Jun 22, 2024 15:39
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CMD598 posted:American produce looks like poo poo though. *laughs in smug californian*
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Jun 22, 2024 15:41
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Farm stand produce is the best produce. Local sourced and grown. My parents used to be part of a farm share where we'd pay some fee every year and every week we'd pick up fresh produce, whatever fruit and veggies are in season in a big box. It was awesome.
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Jun 22, 2024 15:48
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CMD598 posted:American produce looks like poo poo though. If you buy out of season like most Americans, sure.
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Jun 22, 2024 16:05
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First thing I did when I bought my house was get 6 heritage apple trees, currants, gooseberries, and blueberries. Thinking about expanding the berries, I just wish I had room for more trees.
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Jun 22, 2024 16:22
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Bored As gently caress posted:Farm stand produce is the best produce. Local sourced and grown. We do something like this but it feels like an Amazon service. It’s called imperfect produce? My wife runs the show on it. Pretty good fruits and vegetables that are the ones too malformed or weird looking to easily sell, or a package of fruit that didn’t pass QC, so they sell it for cheap via imperfect produce. We get a box once a month full of stuff we pick out from a webpage that shows what’s available that month. It’s pretty good. There’s a lot of other groceries and snacks they sell. Their coffee is a blend of unwanted beans (I guess?) and it’s very good actually. I’m a coffee snob and it is very good.
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Jun 22, 2024 16:22
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lightpole posted:First thing I did when I bought my house was get 6 heritage apple trees, currants, gooseberries, and blueberries. Thinking about expanding the berries, I just wish I had room for more trees. I put in black raspberries and tomatoes to start. Then they all died and I found out that my soil has verticilium wilt.
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Jun 22, 2024 16:31
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Wombot posted:I hate floppy shoestring fries. I love crunchy fries with equal or more crunch than soft interior. Dick's (Seattle) fries are the exception that proves the rule, somehow. Probably the fat and salt. I love Dick's fries, but I'll admit it's probably more to do with nostalgia than how good they are. Dick's was where my dad and I would go when we'd do like a special dad and son outing together. The titular Dick's granddaughter was also an LDO and my Power School math instructor in the Navy, she hurled chalk at me while I verbally corrected all my wrong answers on a failed math quiz once. She's a VP at the restaurant chain now.
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Jun 22, 2024 17:18
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I remember catching a doc where this high end restaurant's "thing" was farm to table but from the perspective of e.g. "most people have never actually tasted wheat". So one course for example is dark whole wheat croissant made entirely from scratch from wheat purposely cultivated for flavor. For stuff they didn't make themselves, they contracted a big farm to cultivate produce for best flavor. Normally what people want is size and weight. "I have literally never been asked to breed something for best flavor" was the farmer's take. Wish I could try some of that stuff.
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Jun 22, 2024 17:35
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Stultus Maximus posted:I put in black raspberries and tomatoes to start. Then they all died and I found out that my soil has verticilium wilt. Look into Dwarf Tomato Project varieties. They will happily grow in 5-10 gallon containers. I am growing Fred's Tie Dye, Dwarf Eagle Smiley, and Dwarf Mint Streak in 5 gallon containers and can strongly recommend the first two (DMS is productice but has kinda boring flavor and splits badly) This bad boy has (fresh) shredded lettuce AND mayo and I'm not sorry about either: Discussion Quorum posted:My Fred's Tie Dye tomatoes are ripening, so I'm on an almost daily BLT kick. Can't stop won't stop.
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Jun 22, 2024 17:55
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Bored As gently caress posted:Farm stand produce is the best produce. Local sourced and grown. 
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Jun 22, 2024 17:59
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Stultus Maximus posted:I put in black raspberries and tomatoes to start. Then they all died and I found out that my soil has verticilium wilt. My blueberries are right next to each other in wine barrels. One of them is struggling a bit but this is the 2nd year for the other one and I'm getting a 1/2 pint a week at least off it.
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Jun 22, 2024 18:26
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Misfit Markets is a cool company that sells discounted 'ugly' fresh food, and things like packaging errors on snack, or discontinued sizes. When we had sugar gliders, it was awesome. At the time, it was literally random produce- so generally what wasn't used or eaten my the people went to the Gliders or birds, and as treats for the doggos. It became less worth it for us after a house fire, and we lost the birds and gliders. I need to look into it again.
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Jun 22, 2024 18:50
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lightpole posted:First thing I did when I bought my house was get 6 heritage apple trees, currants, gooseberries, and blueberries. Thinking about expanding the berries, I just wish I had room for more trees. That sounds good & also identical to my Stardew Valley strategy.
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Jun 22, 2024 19:03
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I kinda think the reason games like Stardew Valley and Animal Crossing are so popular is that they're games you can live an idyllic life in and get "ahead" in and own a home and some land. That's the kind of poo poo most millennials won't get to do, almost no Gen z's are going to do, and my daughter who isn't even 1 yet is statistically very unlikely to do unless me and the wife pass. My wife has loved Animal Crossing since the Game Cube and we were renting a lovely town house with no yard back then. We didn't think we'd own for a long, long time. Even with enlistment / re-enlistment bonuses hung onto and saved we never had enough to make it work in the places I was stationed, or I was deployed when a place that could have worked came up and she wouldn't be able to quickly get ahold of me. When we bought our first house and moved in and had been settled for a while I noticed when she played Nintendo she played pretty much anything but animal crossing there for a while lol.
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Jun 22, 2024 19:12
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OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH posted:I kinda think the reason games like Stardew Valley and Animal Crossing are so popular is that they're games you can live an idyllic life in and get "ahead" in and own a home and some land. I like Stardew Valley too, but just to have a common factual frame of reference -- most millennials own homes, and >25% of gen z does already too: https://www.redfin.com/news/homeownership-rate-by-generation-2023/
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Jun 22, 2024 19:20
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Discussion Quorum posted:Look into Dwarf Tomato Project varieties. They will happily grow in 5-10 gallon containers. I am growing Fred's Tie Dye, Dwarf Eagle Smiley, and Dwarf Mint Streak in 5 gallon containers and can strongly recommend the first two (DMS is productice but has kinda boring flavor and splits badly) How much do they produce? I enjoy BLTs and other summer fresh tomato foods, but the primary reason I want a significant tomato garden is to can tomatoes for use throughout the rest of the year. lightpole posted:My blueberries are right next to each other in wine barrels. One of them is struggling a bit but this is the 2nd year for the other one and I'm getting a 1/2 pint a week at least off it. What climate do you live in? They survive the winter okay?
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Jun 22, 2024 19:24
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Stultus Maximus posted:How much do they produce? I enjoy BLTs and other summer fresh tomato foods, but the primary reason I want a significant tomato garden is to can tomatoes for use throughout the rest of the year. I'm in CA in like a zone 8 so extremely mild, right by the water. I'm a little worried I won't get enough cold for the apples but three of the trees are doing really well.
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Jun 22, 2024 19:34
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Stultus Maximus posted:How much do they produce? I enjoy BLTs and other summer fresh tomato foods, but the primary reason I want a significant tomato garden is to can tomatoes for use throughout the rest of the year. They're pretty productive for their size. Note, I am in Houston, and I'm pretty sure my late start (didn't get plants out until April 1st, early March being ideal), followed by 90+ temps for much of May/June, has negatively affected my yield. But right now, one plant of each is keeping me eating fresh tomatoes almost every day. E: being specific, I think Fred's Tie Dye will give me 12-15 9-10oz tomatoes and Dwarf Mint Streak 2 dozen or so 2-5oz before it gets too hot. Dwarf Eagle Smiley is still going gangbusters, it's a cherry tomato so heat doesn't bother it as much If you're looking to make sauce, there are other DTP varieties that are more suited to that. I can't speak to them, but Victory Seeds has a huge selection. Discussion Quorum fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Jun 22, 2024 |
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Jun 22, 2024 19:44
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Kesper North posted:there are sickos who claim to enjoy these, i cannot comprehend their perversion
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Jun 22, 2024 20:01
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OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH posted:I kinda think the reason games like Stardew Valley and Animal Crossing are so popular is that they're games you can live an idyllic life in and get "ahead" in and own a home and some land. Holy crap, my wife did this also.
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Jun 22, 2024 20:30
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lightpole posted:I'm in CA in like a zone 8 so extremely mild, right by the water. I'm a little worried I won't get enough cold for the apples but three of the trees are doing really well. My navel oranges and myer lemons did AMAZING with little care in the Bay Area. Certainly start with those.
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Jun 22, 2024 20:52
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Bored As gently caress posted:I was wondering what happened because the thread had 46 new posts. I was anxious as to what it could possibly be given the hellscape we walk the planes of. It's not a derail. 
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Jun 22, 2024 21:03
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Bell_ posted:You don't need to understand. If my mouth is gonna be full of Dicks, it's absolutely going to be those soggy, salty fries. i will grant that their milkshake brings all the boys to the yard in any case, regardless, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QElKVs56z48 (for the uninitiated, the noble and puissant Knight of the House of Mix-a-Lot refers to the Broadway in Seattle, not New York, and Dick's is featured prominently in this video)
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Jun 22, 2024 21:25
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Crab Dad posted:My navel oranges and myer lemons did AMAZING with little care in the Bay Area. Certainly start with those. It had lemons, meyers, and limes. I chopped down the lemon tree for the apples cause who needs two lemon trees? So many lemons and limes I have no idea what to do with.
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Jun 22, 2024 21:39
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Plant a chemimoya tree.
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Jun 22, 2024 21:40
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pmchem posted:I like Stardew Valley too, but just to have a common factual frame of reference -- most millennials own homes, and >25% of gen z does already too: Half is not most...and while yes 26% is greater than 25% I think we can agree that 26% is the better way to state that than >25%. Millennials are in there 40's and only half have managed to get a house even during an era of drat near 0% interest rates. I mean... Do you really think those two cohorots are gonna get anywhere near Gen Z and the Boomers without a seriously radical event happening in the economy? Because I don't. But on that note, I'd personally love to be wrong. I did overstate the problem in my post, however. Though I'd argue the home ownership rates aren't great at all for cohorts not already dripping with ownership/wealth.
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Jun 23, 2024 00:11
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OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH posted:Half is not most... Point of order: what?
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Jun 23, 2024 00:17
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Platystemon posted:Point of order: what? Half is half. 50%. Neither more nor lesser. Exactly half.
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Jun 23, 2024 00:21
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I believe earlier renditions of this thread have us the wisdom that "a few" means two and "a couple" means 3+
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Jun 23, 2024 00:30
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Platystemon posted:Point of order: what? Half is half. Most is significantly more than any number very close to half.
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Jun 23, 2024 00:32
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Cugel the Clever posted:I believe earlier renditions of this thread have us the wisdom that "a few" means two and "a couple" means 3+ I hate you
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Jun 23, 2024 00:49
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Cugel the Clever posted:I believe earlier renditions of this thread have us the wisdom that "a few" means two and "a couple" means 3+ And several.....????
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Jun 23, 2024 00:59
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OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH posted:I kinda think the reason games like Stardew Valley and Animal Crossing are so popular is that they're games you can live an idyllic life in and get "ahead" in and own a home and some land. Those games tug at those feelings, but I don't think people actually want that experience outside of a game. Most millennials and gen z's could afford tomorrow to buy some run down property in rural nowhere and live off foraging, sustenance farming, and bartering with neighbors while improving their homestead. They don't because that life sucks unless it's externally subsidized, same it has for all of recorded history. People value urban/suburban amenities, luxuries they have to buy with currency, and their existing social circles more than the idea of owning property and getting close to nature.
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Jun 23, 2024 01:15
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lightpole posted:And several.....???? Exactly 7. AreWeDrunkYet posted:Those games tug at those feelings, but I don't think people actually want that experience outside of a game. Most millennials and gen z's could afford tomorrow to buy some run down property in rural nowhere and live off foraging, sustenance farming, and bartering with neighbors while improving their homestead. They don't because that life sucks unless it's externally subsidized, same it has for all of recorded history. People value urban/suburban amenities, luxuries they have to buy with currency, and their existing social circles more than the idea of owning property and getting close to nature. The areas you describe are the ones that have quickly become unaffordable due to increasing home prices because people made that leap and are finding that out. Simply put the home market is hosed and will stay hosed and it’s unlikely that they will ever get better, we’re going to have to adjust to simply higher home prices. Nystral fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Jun 23, 2024 |
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Jun 23, 2024 01:34
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M_Gargantua posted:Tomatoes and lettuce are supposed to have taste. Tomatoes even have *good* taste. I’m sad that big-ag has tricked you all into thinking otherwise with their lab optimized fruit - perfect color, large size, bruise resistant, can grow in anything because they take little nutrient - yet they taste like water because wait for it, they absorb no soil nutrients! On the other hand, tomatoes taste like poo poo so I'm all for having less tomato taste per unit of tomato for when I accidentally forget to ask for no tomato.
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Jun 23, 2024 01:41
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Discussion Quorum posted:Look into Dwarf Tomato Project varieties. They will happily grow in 5-10 gallon containers. I am growing Fred's Tie Dye, Dwarf Eagle Smiley, and Dwarf Mint Streak in 5 gallon containers and can strongly recommend the first two (DMS is productice but has kinda boring flavor and splits badly) What's that little salad I guess on the side?
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Jun 23, 2024 01:53
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Nystral posted:Exactly 7. Forever is a pretty drat strong word since the boomer's lifetime cities have gone from the most important part of the country into rotten places for the poors and back to the most important part of the country. Eventually things will change, but not necessarily for a good reason. Maybe homeowners finally accept that neighborhoods cannot be preserved in a stasis field forever, and you need to build enough housing units to match the local economy. Or maybe the cities will self-sabotage hard enough to return to Gotham levels of poo poo, and people won't want to live there. The future is still uncertain.
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The history of humanity is developing agriculture, realizing it sucks, and desperately trying to find ways to either make it easier and/or find a way to survive doing literally anything else. It's easy to romanticize being a farmer or living in a rural area but there are some very harsh realities to that lifestyle that make it vastly unappealing to the vast majority of people. Which is why most people don't live in rural areas!
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