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yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
##take quill

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CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

yuming posted:

##take quill

Taken.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!



##use quill on broken sword

My Second Re-Reg
Aug 31, 2021

Come on down.
Let's make a deal.
##look at bowl

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

The broken sword blade is highly polished like a mirror and those runes might say something if we used the sword on it to reflect them?

Also we still never did anything with the triangle lock did we? And we still aren’t greenhorns, dang it

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

##take broken sword

My Second Re-Reg
Aug 31, 2021

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Let's make a deal.

Hal Incandenza posted:

The broken sword blade is highly polished like a mirror and those runes might say something if we used the sword on it to reflect them?

Also we still never did anything with the triangle lock did we? And we still aren’t greenhorns, dang it

Yeah, we've still got exits up the stairs (lock of locks) and in the east wing (greenhorn door) we haven't done anything with; we also still don't know what the lettering in the courtyard says

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

Opopanax posted:

##use quill on broken sword

The broken sword is now slightly less polished.

My Second Re-Reg posted:

##look at bowl

The bowl is filled with fine white sand, the surface of which is smooth and flat.

Hal Incandenza posted:

##take broken sword

Taken.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
OP says this is a “role heavy” game. I assume that means little vanilla.

Town has a cop, doc, vig for traditional roles. Plus my hint getting role and kaschei’s user power.

The N1 boon was to find out my role name for Maer. I got a track and tracked Hal nowhere.

Scum had a roleblocker.

I think we should claim.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
I don’t think a godfather is out of the question. But I also think scum likely have a power connected to solving the puzzles as well.

MSRR fits as scum who has a puzzle related role based on posting.

Opop could be a Godfather. I doubt Hal is a ninja.

I think it’s probably MSRR I just don’t wanna get burned here. Especially since no elim here requires full participation and probably just I die so not crazy about that.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!



My role is that, once per day, I can look at something in private. It's exactly the same as the regular look option though I get no extra info.
I haven't used it yet because I can't think of a single reason why I would

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
Yea my role is the same think action you can do in thread.

It is a free action, however.

I just used it tonight to learn that we have to change the runes in some way and likely write them somewhere to solve the puzzle. I think we have to write them possibly in the sand or on the line and that the runes may correspond to NSWE but there’s five so idk

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
**it’s no promise it solves the puzzle that is my own guess but likely I think.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!



That's pretty much what I was thinking, use the quill to write them in the sand. Question is where the Sword fits in

My Second Re-Reg
Aug 31, 2021

Come on down.
Let's make a deal.
Ok, first off: My ability is that I can guess each night (including n0) who does the successful solve the following day - if I get it right I get a copy of the boon (this does not preclude me from solving the puzzle and getting the boon myself, but no I cannot guess myself and get a double boon, that was the first thing I asked :P). So far I have beefed all attempts, which means I am doing an excellent job of maintaining my brand.

But anyway, again, I am not scum. One of you said lovingly and respectfully assholes is pulling some bullshit, and the best thing I can think of is that not all of Maer's results were right. I've had some questions about yuming before now, and after a re-read that's definitely where I'm leaning.

Like, let's go back to D1 - first we had a weird wishy-washy back and forth on the TPC vote, first starting it for "no reason" but then backing off and on again; this whole exchange feels like yuming voting for TPC to gain cred early on and then trying to pull away, but fully committing after other people started looking TPC's way too.

yuming essentially soft-cleared Hal by saying he didn't visit anybody on N2, which she said came from the boon and we're all assuming is true, but if yuming is also the one who beefed kaschei on N2 that would be a great way to distance herself from the kill, keeping anybody from scrutinizing what she did N2 while otherwise gaining some more solid town cred.

There's also this, which felt a little off at the time and still does now:

yuming posted:

kaschei is an interesting kill. I thought I was gonna be me or Maer tbh.

The track was a boon I got for solving the puzzle btw.

This feels like a way to acknowledge the kill without actually saying much, and the "I thought it was gonna be me" part feels kinda weird tonally; like the whole thing feels like that one Eric Andre meme with the gun and the "How could anybody do this?" bit (this also makes me think I might have been right back on D2 when I had questions about her post, re: AFQM - a lot of odd familiarity going on with the dead here)

Plus yuming is trying real hard to control today's narrative right out of the gate, which is... something I historically do not like at all. I've watched too many good scum players use their positions to lead town around by the nose by simply being either first or loudest, and I'm not convinced that's not what we're seeing here.

Maer mentioned there maybe being either a bus driver or a godfather role; I know a bus driver can redirect somebody's action, and a godfather gives false positives(? i am absolutely a mechanical idiot when it comes to mafia, so if i am wrong here please correct me). And god knows I could be wrong in my analysis - if we do have a bus driver or whatever else in play then lol;lmao, meaning it could just as easily be Opop, or Hal. But I feel like there's gotta be some kind of shenanigans going on, and based purely off of posts, my gut instinct is making me go toward yuming.

My Second Re-Reg
Aug 31, 2021

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Let's make a deal.
meanwhile, tbqh, if i could vote for anyone at the moment i would vote for this stupid cooldown i want to put the sword on the runes and the quill in the sand and do poo poo goddammit :P

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
Nice try. But town pov here is to look at all possibilities.

Big case with no vote? Eh.

##vote MSRR

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
Bus driver is a good idea. It could dodge the track and Maers cop and bypass the doc.

I did you drive each night, MSRR?

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
Cmon auto correct ruining my bit,

WHO did you drive each night, MSRR?

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
Tho I guess it’d only be N1 and don’t fit with the role blocker. So godfather is really the most likely foil to town here.

My Second Re-Reg
Aug 31, 2021

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Let's make a deal.

yuming posted:

Nice try. But town pov here is to look at all possibilities.

That's a very negative assumption that I haven't looked at anyone else, and while I might could build out a case against Opop it'd be nowhere near as strong as the litany of things I just pointed out about your own posts (and being fair I think the only case any of us could bring against Hal is "he's lurking, and that's never a good Hal sign", which, meh).

Also I do not vote until I am good and ready to do so, thank you kindly; while you may be my number one candidate at the moment that doesn't mean I can't listen to reason as to why it could be one of the others - I am very capable of changing my mind, and I don't like voting unless I feel set. Hell, maybe I'm OMGUSing and we're both wrong, I don't know. But given the evidence I have available to me, and the fact that it looks like you're flailing right now, I'm pretty sure I'm right.

My Second Re-Reg
Aug 31, 2021

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Let's make a deal.
On top of all that, I don't know if I buy that ability either - saying your power is "be smart at the game" is a real good way to cover up a scum ability by just being, yknow, smart at the game.

My Second Re-Reg
Aug 31, 2021

Come on down.
Let's make a deal.
oh and lmao i wish i had a fukkin bus drive

someone please move the player avatar i want to mush things in our inventory together :(

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!



Hmm. I don't buy yuming at all, but msrr going after her and not me is giving me some pause

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

My Second Re-Reg posted:

On top of all that, I don't know if I buy that ability either - saying your power is "be smart at the game" is a real good way to cover up a scum ability by just being, yknow, smart at the game.
My power is literally to use the ##think command privately.

My role is walk thru reader. Maer didn’t explicitly confirm this in thread, but she did get my role name.

Opopanax posted:

Hmm. I don't buy yuming at all, but msrr going after her and not me is giving me some pause
Yea just calling Opop GF is easier and I’m paranoid about that as well. But I’m always paranoid of Opop and Hal being scum so~

MSRR’s power also sounds scummy. I think the simple answer is correct here.

Also describing me as “flailing” is an oversell.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
##think about where to write

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

yuming posted:

##think about where to write

Having a quill with no ink, there's only one way to write anything, and that's in the sand.

My Second Re-Reg
Aug 31, 2021

Come on down.
Let's make a deal.

Opopanax posted:

Hmm. I don't buy yuming at all, but msrr going after her and not me is giving me some pause

The worst thing I can find in your posts is being kinda aggressive back on D1, which you backed off of, like, right away. And, again, maybe it could be Hal but there's nothing in his posts I can point at and go "yeah, that felt weird". Outta everybody left yuming is the one I think looks the worst - and, no the fact that she's trying to tee me up for a dunk doesn't help. :P

yuming posted:

Yea just calling Opop GF is easier

Why? Why is that easier than calling you a godfather or a busdriver? It isn't - it's an empty statement. You soft bussed TPC on D2, were the driving force behind us all voting out YPM on D3, and now you're trying to leap in front of the day and control the narrative. You aren't even playing the actual IF game anymore, which, if you were town, you'd want to engage with so we could be in a position to actually solve this stupid thing and vote somebody out.

Yknow what? gently caress it - you want my vote, I think I've talked myself into it. ##vote yuming

fake edit: actually, since you posted while i was writing all this up, wtf is up with this?

yuming posted:

##think about where to write

If you can Think privately as a free action, why are you having to Think here in the thread? Why not use your action on something that would be more beneficial to solving the puzzle?

My Second Re-Reg
Aug 31, 2021

Come on down.
Let's make a deal.
thank dear sweet jesus i can go again

##use sword on runes

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

My Second Re-Reg posted:

##use sword on runes

The broken sword fits neatly on the line beneath the runes.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
I didn’t “soft bus” TPC I correctly found them out as scum.

The ##think hints aren’t earth shattering, we each get a free one in thread but no one uses them. Has anyone except me used them? They’re in the OP.

I’m p sold its MSRR based on their posting here.

My Second Re-Reg
Aug 31, 2021

Come on down.
Let's make a deal.

yuming posted:

The ##think hints aren’t earth shattering, we each get a free one in thread but no one uses them. Has anyone except me used them? They’re in the OP.

Being mildly pedantic I guess but not quite; anybody can think at any time (and several people have, including myself) but it counts as an action, meaning you're put on the standard two-turn cooldown. Someone can only use the Solve command once per day.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!



I think we just need to write the glyphs in the sand but we should probably wait for Hal

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

Opopanax posted:

I think we just need to write the glyphs in the sand but we should probably wait for Hal
My hint is that it it’s more than just copying the runes. I wonder if we have to rotate them in some way? Or combine them.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!



I tried writing them down and seeing if they could be mirrored or something but I couldn't make anything coherent

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!



Although the Sword fitting into the slot seems to indicate otherwise

My Second Re-Reg
Aug 31, 2021

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Let's make a deal.
I have done many things to the runes in photoshop but nothing gave me an "ah-hah" moment. The way the shapes are formed makes it look like one of those old folding puzzles or something.

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

If it’s not a mirror I’m surprised

I’m vanilla btw

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!



Not to be a dick or anything but those runes are just example basic runes from a D&d book, so I don't think it's going to be anything quite so obvious. It's possible we just mirror them anyways and that's the solve but they won't look like anything

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My Second Re-Reg
Aug 31, 2021

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Let's make a deal.
oh

Well I'm still on cooldown, anybody want to try looking at the sword now?

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