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fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Yami Fenrir posted:

didn't he already start pushing d1 tho?

Yes, I swapped off then to avoid a NL

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Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
I'm talking about this:

votefinder posted:

Votecount for Day 1

xxxxxxxOOOOOOO Johnny Keats (7): Voodoofly, mollyohreally, wologar, Your Personal Muse, Punkreas, Punkreas, mollyohreally, CapitalistPig, Tea Party Crasher, Yami Fenrir, NeverHelm
xxxxxxxxOOOOOO Tea Party Crasher (6): sharkmafia, Zoya, b-minus1, fool of sound, MockingQuantum, Johnny Keats
xxxxxxxxxxxxOO Monathin (2): Johnny Keats, Rhymes With Clue, Johnny Keats, Ignatius M. Meen, Johnny Keats, Johnny Keats
xxxxxxxxxxxxOO Hyper Crab Tank (2): CubicalSucrose, Punkreas
xxxxxxxxxxxxxO mollyohreally (1): EGalz18
xxxxxxxxxxxxxO b-minus1 (1): Rhymes With Clue, Punkreas, Punkreas, Rhymes With Clue, mollyohreally
xxxxxxxxxxxxxO Your Personal Muse (1): mollyohreally, yuming, mollyohreally
xxxxxxxxxxxxxO MockingQuantum (1): Johnny Keats, Ignatius M. Meen, Tea Party Crasher, Tea Party Crasher, mollyohreally, Johnny Keats, zzyzx, Ignatius M. Meen, Zoya, mollyohreally, Zoya
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx CubicalSucrose (0): sharkmafia, sharkmafia
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Ignatius M. Meen (0): Punkreas, Punkreas
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx NeverHelm (0): zzyzx, Tsietisin, Tsietisin, zzyzx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx hambeet (0): Tsietisin, Tsietisin
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Voodoofly (0): Johnny Keats, Johnny Keats, Johnny Keats, Johnny Keats
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Tsietisin (0): Yami Fenrir, Yami Fenrir


Not voting: hambeet, Hyper Crab Tank, Monathin, Sandwolf, Tsietisin

With 26 alive, it's 14 votes to execute. The current deadline is June 21st, 2024 at 7 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 6 hours, 32 minutes.

votefinder posted:

Votecount for Day 1

OOOOOOOOOOOOOO Rhymes With Clue (14): Monathin, Tea Party Crasher, Monathin, Tea Party Crasher, wologar, Monathin, yuming, MockingQuantum, Tea Party Crasher, Punkreas, Johnny Keats, EGalz18, CubicalSucrose, Hyper Crab Tank, CapitalistPig, NeverHelm, Monathin, Monathin, fool of sound, sharkmafia
xxxxxxxxxOOOOO Tea Party Crasher (5): sharkmafia, Zoya, b-minus1, fool of sound, MockingQuantum, Johnny Keats, Johnny Keats, Rhymes With Clue, zzyzx, Rhymes With Clue, MockingQuantum, Rhymes With Clue, Tsietisin, fool of sound, sharkmafia
xxxxxxxxxxxOOO Johnny Keats (3): Voodoofly, mollyohreally, wologar, Your Personal Muse, Punkreas, Punkreas, mollyohreally, CapitalistPig, Tea Party Crasher, Yami Fenrir, NeverHelm, Tea Party Crasher, wologar, CapitalistPig, NeverHelm
xxxxxxxxxxxxxO NeverHelm (1): zzyzx, zzyzx, Sandwolf, Tsietisin, EGalz18, Tsietisin, Monathin, CapitalistPig, Punkreas, Monathin, Punkreas, EGalz18, CapitalistPig
xxxxxxxxxxxxxO b-minus1 (1): Rhymes With Clue, Punkreas, Punkreas, Rhymes With Clue, mollyohreally
xxxxxxxxxxxxxO Monathin (1): Johnny Keats, Rhymes With Clue, Johnny Keats, Ignatius M. Meen, Johnny Keats, Johnny Keats, Rhymes With Clue, Rhymes With Clue, Rhymes With Clue
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx CubicalSucrose (0): sharkmafia, sharkmafia
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx mollyohreally (0): EGalz18, EGalz18
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Ignatius M. Meen (0): Punkreas, Punkreas
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Yami Fenrir (0): Tea Party Crasher, Tea Party Crasher, yuming, yuming
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your Personal Muse (0): mollyohreally, yuming, mollyohreally, yuming
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx sharkmafia (0): yuming, yuming
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx hambeet (0): Rhymes With Clue, Rhymes With Clue
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx CapitalistPig (0): wologar, Hyper Crab Tank, Tsietisin, Tsietisin, Tsietisin, yuming, yuming, Johnny Keats, Monathin, Tea Party Crasher, Tsietisin, Tsietisin, Monathin, wologar, Tea Party Crasher, Johnny Keats, Tsietisin, Hyper Crab Tank
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Voodoofly (0): Johnny Keats, Johnny Keats, Johnny Keats, Johnny Keats
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MockingQuantum (0): Johnny Keats, Ignatius M. Meen, Tea Party Crasher, Tea Party Crasher, mollyohreally, Johnny Keats, zzyzx, Ignatius M. Meen, Zoya, mollyohreally, Zoya, Johnny Keats, zzyzx, Johnny Keats
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Hyper Crab Tank (0): CubicalSucrose, Punkreas, Johnny Keats, Johnny Keats, Punkreas, CubicalSucrose


Not voting: hambeet

With 26 alive, it's 14 votes to execute. The current deadline is June 21st, 2024 at 7 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 11 minutes.

Fool literally scumread TPC, latched on like a shark, and only switched to avoid no lunch iirc

Punkreas
May 13, 2013

*chews on head*
Lipstick Apathy
I'm still thinking Voodoofly but I just want to highlight how uncomfortable I am with not only the whole third Miller thing but also the fact that it's asymmetric between the two Scum teams as well

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
Tbh, either way I am not voting FoS today. It's far too much of a gamble imo

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
It'd require voodoo to not be the 4th calvinist anyway, which is a big ask

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

:goofy:

Hold on, no, this isn't solid at all. Like, I don't mind blocking you as such, but the conclusions you're drawing here are excessive. First of all, it doesn't confirm Punkreas at all. You not dying is not evidence of Punk protecting you. Like, at all. If he's scum, he just kills someone else. If he's town, this just attracts his attention away from where it's best used. But actually it's even worse, because even if you do die, that's still not evidence that Punk is scum as there are at least two killers on the loose on top of whatever caused the third kills, and they can double or triple up on killing you, not to mention the juggernaut. It could be Molly or FoS, and if they just juggkill you then town!Punkreas eats the vote tomorrow and we lose. So this part of the plan is just... bad.

But more strikingly to me, and - I'm sorry, I can't stop being paranoid about you - if you're scum, you could just lie about what you did tomorrow, and then use that as fodder to yeet me and win the game. This is the part that really has me worried about this plan. If we're in the scenario where you really are Lutheran scum (and used the loot on wologar as a distancing tactic - and the more I think about it, wologar is the best one to do this gambit with because he was a ninja and would go undetected no matter what doing the kill), this is all just one big setup designed to get me, specifically, out of the game and give scum another free night to mop up what remains of town. And add on top of this that if you're not scum, I really don't get why you're asking me to spend my action targeting you instead of trying to stop a kill. (Believe it or not, even after all this angryposting, you're still not at the top of my scum suspect list.)

Now I get what you're thinking right now - "HCT is resisting my master plan, therefore he must be scum who doesn't want to prove himself". No, I'm happy to prove myself. But I'm not happy to sign up to a plan that's full of holes that scum can use to cause an instant misyeet tomorrow, regardless of whether it's me or Punk. We need to think safer than that.

Actually I guess the number of people left alive is a good reason.

I don't like that HCT gets to weasel out of proving his role here though.

Ugh.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
FWIW I fully expect to die tonight so HCT conveniently can't prove his role at all, be it because he's scum/sk or because of someone to frame him

bleh

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Molly is the Lutheran

I assume punk is the last Calvinist but maybe FoS could be a wild card.

HCT is a serial killer.

Yami if you are scum then I’m fine losing to you.

That’s where I was last night it’s where I am now


I don’t know the best way to win though. Do we kill scum or sk.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
Anyway, I really do think that voodoo probably tried to kill HCT n3 and that's why the "beaten" kill is missing

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Voodoofly posted:

Molly is the Lutheran

I assume punk is the last Calvinist but maybe FoS could be a wild card.

HCT is a serial killer.

Yami if you are scum then I’m fine losing to you.

That’s where I was last night it’s where I am now


I don’t know the best way to win though. Do we kill scum or sk.

How is molly the lutheran?

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Voodoofly posted:

N1:

- Yuming (town) dead in bed
- MQ (town) beaten to death
- MISSING: defenestration

N2:

- Beet (town) beaten to death
- Zzyzx (town) dead in bed
- Minus (Luth) defenestrated

N3:

- Mono (town) dead in bed
- YPM (Luth) defenestrated
- MISSING : beaten to death

N4:

- Never (town) mod killed
- Wolo (Luth) defenestrated
- Zoya (town) beaten
- Shark (Calv) dead in bed

N5:

- Egalz (town) beaten
- MISSING: defenestrated
- MISSING: dead in bed

Also if I’m last Calvin and tsi looted me night 4 and I hit crab night 4 who did the kill?

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

I guess shark. I thought he died earlier.

I need coffee

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Yami Fenrir posted:

How is molly the lutheran?

I don’t think the inquisition role can only be a town role

She was pushing tsi hard

She has done basically nothing else this game

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

This feels very much like a game where scum have sat back and just let the town drive off a cliff

Molly has less posts than MQ who died night 1. Go read her posts she has basically just sat back and latched onto other claims. Even today it’s basically a few “how can it be this?” And then drops an easy vote on me and says she won’t be around

Like even if you think I’m scum then you also have to think HCT is lying to think I did a kill last night. Because otherwise HCT roleblocked me and there was a kill

So why would you risk the game one someone who didn’t kill other than it’s just an easy vote


Who else didn’t easy vote? Punk.

Put a map of the game together Molly fits easily into last Lutheran. Punk I think is last Calvin but FoS is possible which is why if voting scum is correct move I probably vote Molly.

HCT with the regenerating BP I assume is the third killer. I assume scum have some desire to kill or vote out a BP sK though so maybe we don’t vote there today.

That’s where I am. Might have more once I have coffee and can sit down at computer.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
Eh...

feels like a stretch tbh.

Anyway, I'mma tune out for a bit, I'm getting a headache on top of being dizzy.

Yaaaaaay

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Yami Fenrir posted:

Eh...

feels like a stretch tbh.

Anyway, I'mma tune out for a bit, I'm getting a headache on top of being dizzy.

Yaaaaaay

This refers to the post two before mine, not the detailed one fwiw, I'll think about the detailed one more when I can... actually think.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Yami Fenrir posted:

Eh...

feels like a stretch tbh.

Anyway, I'mma tune out for a bit, I'm getting a headache on top of being dizzy.

Yaaaaaay

Look am I certain on Lutheran vs Calvinist? Not really. Molly jumped on tpc at like vote 8 or 9 so maybe that was a bus and voting tsi was just cutting driftwood

But I’m pretty sure she is scum and im guessing Lutheran

It’s more of a fact we have three kills to ID and I don’t think it’s you and I don’t think it’s FoS and that leaves three people

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Voodoofly posted:

This feels very much like a game where scum have sat back and just let the town drive off a cliff

Molly has less posts than MQ who died night 1. Go read her posts she has basically just sat back and latched onto other claims. Even today it’s basically a few “how can it be this?” And then drops an easy vote on me and says she won’t be around

Like even if you think I’m scum then you also have to think HCT is lying to think I did a kill last night. Because otherwise HCT roleblocked me and there was a kill

So why would you risk the game one someone who didn’t kill other than it’s just an easy vote


Who else didn’t easy vote? Punk.

Put a map of the game together Molly fits easily into last Lutheran. Punk I think is last Calvin but FoS is possible which is why if voting scum is correct move I probably vote Molly.

HCT with the regenerating BP I assume is the third killer. I assume scum have some desire to kill or vote out a BP sK though so maybe we don’t vote there today.

That’s where I am. Might have more once I have coffee and can sit down at computer.

Okay I feel a little bit better now.

I... can't really fault the logic in the first bit, but I still don't know if I believe that's what happened. However, I'm not sure how not going with an easy vote makes Punk scum?

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
Also this silence is deafening.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Yami Fenrir posted:

Okay I feel a little bit better now.

I... can't really fault the logic in the first bit, but I still don't know if I believe that's what happened. However, I'm not sure how not going with an easy vote makes Punk scum?

No that was stupid phone. I meant to say he was going with an easy vote

But looking back he isn’t voting me just saying he is leaning there

Again, I question anyone voting me today when according to hct I couldn’t have done a kill last night but more it’s just people who don’t seem to worry about voting wrong today. Punk seems to have some worry which is making me flip back and forth on him and FoS

Also how does zfoS have basically the same number of posts as RWC?

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Let’s just go in abstract for a second. Is it better to vote an SK or scum? I think scum right? Scum have to fear an SK more than SK fears scum so it could be a possible nightkill target? Or maybe scum fear each other more?

Because I’m pretty sure at this point I’m voting Molly or HCT I just don’t know which is correct.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
We're missing two kills though. HCT having stopped you seems plausible?

Punkreas
May 13, 2013

*chews on head*
Lipstick Apathy
Yeah I can't disagree at all with Molly being a risk, as I subconsciously put her as a Town with low interest in the game, mostly due to my own stance of these games needing to be fun first and foremost - winning as Scum by participating in the thread as little as possible (especially late game) commits the grave sin of being exceptionally boring, and I optimistically assume most folks here wouldn't do this

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
That said, it could also be bait for exactly this situation. My gut says "beaten" is the calvinist kill, and egalz was one of your scumreads.

One thing I was floating is that you were trying to finish off the luther team and missed.

I don't think the egalz kill makes much sense otherwise tbh.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Punkreas posted:

Yeah I can't disagree at all with Molly being a risk, as I subconsciously put her as a Town with low interest in the game, mostly due to my own stance of these games needing to be fun first and foremost - winning as Scum by participating in the thread as little as possible (especially late game) commits the grave sin of being exceptionally boring, and I optimistically assume most folks here wouldn't do this

I agree. Also, the ability is catholic flavored, so I kinda just filed her away as town tbh.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
Honestly tho, I kinda just want this day to end at this point. It's stalled horribly and it feels depressing to refresh to zero posts.

Any objections to hammering early?

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Has anyone flipped as a godfather yet? I know there is a framer but with a religion cop and backup religion cop and I guess I could have become a religion cop too if sand or zzyzx died first then I’m guessing there is at least one catholic acum

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Yami Fenrir posted:

Honestly tho, I kinda just want this day to end at this point. It's stalled horribly and it feels depressing to refresh to zero posts.

Any objections to hammering early?

Oh punk is voting me

Yami if you are scum we deserve this loss good game. But if you are town seriously I know you think I’ve been scum a while but really think it over here.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Voodoofly posted:

Oh punk is voting me

Yami if you are scum we deserve this loss good game. But if you are town seriously I know you think I’ve been scum a while but really think it over here.

I've said it before but I legit think you and HCT both are not town.

There is ton of stuff that's off about you.

You weren't on TPC, you didn't steal the apple somehow, shark defended you, there's a missing kill the night you "looted" HCT, etc.

I'm sorry but it's just too much for me to ignore.

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
Votecount for Day 6

xxOO Voodoofly (2): Punkreas, mollyohreally
xxxx Hyper Crab Tank (0): Yami Fenrir, Yami Fenrir


Not voting: fool of sound, Hyper Crab Tank, Voodoofly, Yami Fenrir

With 6 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is July 04th, 2024 at 7 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 1 day, 6 hours.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Yami Fenrir posted:

I've said it before but I legit think you and HCT both are not town.

There is ton of stuff that's off about you.

You weren't on TPC, you didn't steal the apple somehow, shark defended you, there's a missing kill the night you "looted" HCT, etc.

I'm sorry but it's just too much for me to ignore.

Then let’s vote HCT and see another day. I had actually decided to vote Molly because of nothing else HCT is posting and the scum teams have been lurky as hell but I want to win

##vote HCT

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

But also if your mind is made up just hammer me. I want to gloat.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
I think voodoo is def the best case atm, but honestly the only person in hard town reading is yami. Molly preemptive defensiveness is still sticking with me, and Crab seems like a reasonable choice from night action calculus, but voodoo is the one that I’m just not finding convincing towny posts from. I’ve been hesitant to vote cause of the hatred stacks but my attention for this game continues to wane so

##vote voodoo

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

fool of sound posted:

I think voodoo is def the best case atm, but honestly the only person in hard town reading is yami. Molly preemptive defensiveness is still sticking with me, and Crab seems like a reasonable choice from night action calculus, but voodoo is the one that I’m just not finding convincing towny posts from. I’ve been hesitant to vote cause of the hatred stacks but my attention for this game continues to wane so

##vote voodoo

I’d say thanks for finally playing but yeah

I really hope yami is actually scum because right now it feels like we are just going to lose to a ton of scum who lurked through the day and did nothing.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
I'm going to wait... let's say, half an hour, in case some of the more quiet folks want to say something, then I'll hammer.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

fool of sound posted:

I think voodoo is def the best case atm, but honestly the only person in hard town reading is yami. Molly preemptive defensiveness is still sticking with me, and Crab seems like a reasonable choice from night action calculus, but voodoo is the one that I’m just not finding convincing towny posts from. I’ve been hesitant to vote cause of the hatred stacks but my attention for this game continues to wane so

##vote voodoo

According to my math, you don't need to be. Neither Voodoo or I can afford any atm.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Yami Fenrir posted:

I'm going to wait... let's say, half an hour, in case some of the more quiet folks want to say something, then I'll hammer.

just hammer me. HCT wont vote himself. we are lucky FoS even made one game related post that was just defending himself or explaining the apple. Punk and Molly aren't going to change their votes

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
I swear to god though, if I die at night, promise me you'll look at HCT.

Let me repeat what I said at the start of the day:

They're one of 3 possible culprits (Fool, molly, and HCT) that can be responsible for the third kill on at least n3.

HCT's claim fits an SK role in a fire and ice game very well with the multi-BP.

An SK would naturally be able to look more townie than actual scum does, due to their ability to scumhunt.

You NEED to look at his action claims too, and I still think they're sus as gently caress.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Yami Fenrir posted:

I swear to god though, if I die at night, promise me you'll look at HCT.

Let me repeat what I said at the start of the day:

They're one of 3 possible culprits (Fool, molly, and HCT) that can be responsible for the third kill on at least n3.

HCT's claim fits an SK role in a fire and ice game very well with the multi-BP.

An SK would naturally be able to look more townie than actual scum does, due to their ability to scumhunt.

You NEED to look at his action claims too, and I still think they're sus as gently caress.

It doesn't matter the game is over once you hammer me

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Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

oh well I guess while I have nothing else I can tell you all to join music league again

we just started the second week so you would have time to join for that round which will launch tomorrow, but you can join whenever

it's fun, everyone is pretty good natured and there is a wide range of tastes



HCT you should come back. I think people realized the power metal jokes went to far and we could use some werewolf sex songs. besides the real enemy now is the growing musical contingent and with yuming coming there might actually be a Jpop/Kpop brigade that is ready to roll over people

Also pander is in the league now and he probably loves proggy power metal stuff

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