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Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

Toalpaz!

# ¿ Jun 20, 2024 01:46

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# ¿ Nov 15, 2025 09:58

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

Always up for a Myst game

# ¿ Jun 23, 2024 14:17

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

The stars say I'm vanilla town... And the cards... And the ball. And the fortune this robotic chimp pulled,

# ¿ Jun 28, 2024 23:56

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

Grandicap posted:

I have tossed the bones and gazed into the crystals, a true augur of the future.

Toalpaz, your future is clear. You are VT this game as you suspect, but perhaps more is beneath the surface.You start this game with no powers but events will conspire to thrust a boon upon you on day 3.

kashei, your future is clouded by your past. A party you will have, but it will not be third. I can elaborate no more lest I risk toppling the future.

yuming, Hi!

Thank you sooth Sayer, your portend is well taken and brings great honor to my name. I wish we walked the same path and our fortunes may be the same.

# ¿ Jun 29, 2024 02:32

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

Freaking Crumbum posted:

if u got loot to vend, plz give me "gun"

or failing that "rolecop"

im quiet & im loud & im drawning a crowd & i like gravy

I can give u a part of a gun, in some senses.

CubicalSucrose posted:

Don't cross the streams with ongoing games.

Oh gently caress I think I can't even say "don't cross the streams" right now.

GAHHHH.

Busted.

For what its worth, I am a town power role. I'd recommend saving me for at least 2 nights. Strongly suspect kaschei to be scum. ##vote Kaschei I will explain later.

# ¿ Jul 1, 2024 22:07

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

kaschei posted:

Is this about my immaculate posting or my cursèd name?

its definitely bullying based on your name

# ¿ Jul 3, 2024 02:02

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

shwinnebego posted:

grandi, yuming, toaly, all good votes today

turned on me too quick.!

# ¿ Jul 3, 2024 02:07

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

I think people are wrong on yuming, town.

# ¿ Jul 3, 2024 02:14

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

Freaking Crumbum posted:

ur telling me shwiff is wildly wrong about TWO other players

on the same game day

at the same time??

localized entirely within this thread?

Its certainly possible!

# ¿ Jul 3, 2024 02:22

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

I have a really good feeling about humalong this game

# ¿ Jul 3, 2024 15:37

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

I was just bullying kasc, and I'm 1000% willing to vote schwinne, but I was hoping to pal around because Schwinn seems like a nice feller.

What do y'all think...? I mean, maybe I could try and break through kasch beanlike exterior...

# ¿ Jul 3, 2024 15:52

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

Tired Moritz posted:

I know I'm town. I don't know if toal is town.

Lol, this is a big fake content mill, but also good tm vibes

# ¿ Jul 3, 2024 16:12

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

[quote="Grandicap" post="540485756"]
Reread both shwinn and kasch, shwinn looks like a good vote, kash looks like a bad vote.

Both came at me to an extent but they did so very differently. kasch started with a generic I don't like Grandi's posts, but followed up with specifics, it had a bunch of weak points, but for like 24 hours into day 1 it was reasonable. The conclusions were incorrect, but it was a post made by someone who felt off about a post sequence, and put words behind the feeling of unease. And even followed up with trying to push the read they believed in without pushing too hard. This is town D1 casing. Outside of the narcasisstic perspective, kash pushed shwinn on wishy washy scum behavior. And something about this post just screams town mindset to me. Will not vote kasch.

Onto Shwinn. Crumbum defense is persistant and weird. Especially since his jokevote was on crumbum too. kasch already pointed out that so many of shwinn's reads are couched with outs. Not wanting to commit to them. Both the vote on me and the vote on yuming came with essentially an apology for voting the "good" or fun to play with players out. Even though there was no Toalpaz vote, the same thing occurred there. Opening with a compliment, and following up with a scum call. It reeks of scum guilt.
But my biggest problem with shwinn is that their reads are so loving counter to mine that I can't see where they got there, the complete lack of overlap makes me feel like shwinn must coming at the game with scummind.

##vote shwinnebego
[/quote

I'm so sad that grandi and schiwwm both said they wanted me around d2... That's usually how I decide. But kasch push is empty and fake

# ¿ Jul 3, 2024 16:13

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

shwinnebego posted:

Yes, the kasch push is very empty and fake, you should probably vote yuming about it

Duly noted ! But I kind of agree with cash that it would be cube.

# ¿ Jul 3, 2024 16:19

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

[quote="Sandwolf" post="540487818"]
##vote Cube
[/quote

# ¿ Jul 3, 2024 16:24

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

mollyohreally posted:

another beautiful day!

# ¿ Jul 4, 2024 21:28

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

My action was successful. I learned someone's role from a role-cop I used last night!

It doesn't seem worth reporting, because its' alignment neutral!

# ¿ Jul 4, 2024 21:30

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

CubicalSucrose posted:

Votecount for Day 1

xOOOOOO shwinnebego (6): Freaking Crumbum, GulagDolls, ~~Freaking Crumbum~~, Freaking Crumbum, mollyohreally, Grandicap, Toalpaz, ~~Toalpaz~~, yuming, Rhymes With Clue
xxOOOOO CubicalSucrose (5): Sandwolf, Toalpaz, kaschei, shwinnebego, MockingQuantum
xxxxxxO kaschei (1): Toalpaz, CubicalSucrose, yuming, Sandwolf, ~~Toalpaz~~, ~~Sandwolf~~, ~~yuming~~
xxxxxxO yuming (1): shwinnebego, Freaking Crumbum, ~~shwinnebego~~, ~~Freaking Crumbum~~, shwinnebego, Tired Moritz, ~~Tired Moritz~~, Freaking Crumbum, Tired Moritz, ~~Freaking Crumbum~~, ~~shwinnebego~~
xxxxxxx Tired Moritz (0): yuming, ~~yuming~~, yuming, ~~yuming~~
xxxxxxx Toalpaz (0): Tired Moritz, ~~Tired Moritz~~
xxxxxxx Grandicap (0): kaschei, mollyohreally, shwinnebego, ~~shwinnebego~~, ~~mollyohreally~~, ~~kaschei~~
xxxxxxx Freaking Crumbum (0): yuming, ~~yuming~~
xxxxxxx GulagDolls (0): mollyohreally, ~~mollyohreally~~, Freaking Crumbum, ~~Freaking Crumbum~~
xxxxxxx mollyohreally (0): Freaking Crumbum, ~~Freaking Crumbum~~

With 13 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is July 03rd, 2024 at 4 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 2 hours, 20 minutes.

Reading the tea leaves here a little...

I think 2 scum on the vote. First parked since vote 2, gulag, and second would be Freaken?

I don't know, these people. :shobon:

So it's harder to determine who the scum votes are based on numerology, but no night kill may mean that players executing the shwinne are loaded with scum at 3.

# ¿ Jul 4, 2024 21:34

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

Rhymes With Clue posted:

Anybody remember that game where toalpaz wasn't playing and people kept saying they got messages from her? It's kinda like that, except toal IS in this game.

Can you tell me more about this game I was a ghostly presence!?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DvVAsGdnBQ

Phantum of the Toal...

# ¿ Jul 4, 2024 22:23

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

CubicalSucrose posted:

Oh it was JS.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=1&threadid=4031775&pagenumber=30&perpage=40&highlight=Toalpaz#post532894159

this is pretty haha

# ¿ Jul 4, 2024 22:27

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

mollyohreally posted:

regardless I am feeling vote freaking crumbum I think we may also have scuming this game

Why

# ¿ Jul 5, 2024 13:47

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

Rhymes With Clue posted:

##vote Freaking Crumbum

Why, but pretend you're in a separate room from Molly so I can compare your reasons

# ¿ Jul 5, 2024 13:47

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

Real talk, does anyone need something to do tonight? An action?

# ¿ Jul 5, 2024 16:50

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

yuming posted:

I didn't like that kaschei post either.

I'm also having a paranoid stupid-idea-suspicion that Moritz, Toal, and kaschei are trying to pull some weird gambit and messed up the fact that the items couldn't be used until N1.

Likely? No.

Does that stop me from wanting to be right about it, heck no.

But kaschei's posting is reading scummy to me so I will start there.

##vote kaschei

yuming posted:

If your items can kill people why didn�t you say so D1?

That was p much it tbh.

Yuming staying on the Kasch case after d1 flip; and re-investigating behaviour (why did you hide role info d1) instead of (you're scum, and dangerous items are traps), leads me to think that Yuming is scum processing info different than town would.

Double tie late day on two town is incredibly likely. There wasn't a lot of schwinn or kasch pressue.

# ¿ Jul 5, 2024 16:52

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

##vote Yuming

Again, sorry if this is just me not understanding your playstyle Yuming. It is kind of a meme that we're at each other's throats. :shobon:

# ¿ Jul 5, 2024 16:53

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

tbqh id vote rwc as well, first. Sorry if this seems contradictory. ##vote RWC Maybe I'll just assume I'm reading yuming wrong since I agree with this p. strongly.

# ¿ Jul 5, 2024 16:58

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

I'm going on vacation in for a few days. It may be best for people to direct questions at me to answer, that way I can direct my attention to relevant threads easily.

Also why are we bored of killing RWC? What is the policy vote on sandwolf?

# ¿ Jul 6, 2024 15:38

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

yuming posted:

##vote Sandwolf

His D1 reads are watered down, meandering as it were,

Sand spends a lot of time talking about Grandi as a General Topic of Discussion. However, he doesn't take this discussion anywhere interesting.

Sand puts vote #4 on kaschei later on and this vv explanation comes after Sand's vote,

AND it's directed at swhinn who Sand said he would vote.

This reads like a classic scum-one-note-opinion and Sand isn't carrying the read along a coherent path like Town would.

In fact,

Sand soon switches his vote to Cube... ~melty butter votes~ follow.

So what's my point here?

Sand has opinions but they are out of sync with the votes in thread. He talked about Grandi v. kaschei, votes MUCH later, and then drops the case to vote Cube. The rhythm here is way off. He is also absent D2. I get it is a holiday weekend, but my scum profile atm is they don't have much incentive to post.

Obv you don't have to uh reiterate your case yuming. But realistically 'water down' is a little rich when I come to thread ever other game and say 'cases today are pointless, ain't happening' haha.

I don't know. I appreciate his hustle usually and would prefer a one sentence wonder to prevent hiding scum in a low engagement game.

# ¿ Jul 6, 2024 15:40

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

Rhymes With Clue posted:

Why do you wanna kill me? I'm town.

Now here's the thing, I don't know about yuming,. Yuming gave me a 1x watch that apparently had a 60% chance to work, and did seem to work as a got a result (nobody visited toalpaz--is that true?). But I got it pretty early in the game and it doesn't seem like something that she'd give to scum, so how did she know I wasn't?

Also I can get a report from any dead player. I said more than I wanted to about that, but basically if you guys want a report after somebody's lunched or NKed, you shouldn't vote me out. I don't know how helpfull it might be but I'm thinking without me you don't get that report.

Idk, seems to be true since no one has claimed to visit me?

Watching me is super null. Given the free kill and, well, with the item mechanics I don't think scum are incentivized to watch each other.

Cube who did you target again?

# ¿ Jul 6, 2024 15:57

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

CubicalSucrose posted:

Not necessarily. Doc and (probably) Hider exist in the setup.

CubicalSucrose posted:

This suggests one of:
- Grandi had the Hider N1 and didn't use it.
- Grandi gave away the Hider N0 and has some way of knowing if their items get used or not.
- [Something else I'm not thinking of]

Why did you suppose a hider was in play before grandi claim? :gooey: did you hand out a doctor, and that's why it isn't question marked?

# ¿ Jul 6, 2024 16:00

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

CubicalSucrose posted:

I am not an inventor. I currently have an item. It was not given to me by any of the three claimed inventors (Kaschei, TMor, Yuming).

Given how the OP reads, I assume that it was given to me by one of the two unclaimed inventors since I got it during the night. It was NOT a Hider (that was what Kaschei gave away).

If I am in danger of dying, I will use the item-related "GIVE" private day action to give the item away to someone else.

If I am not in danger of dying, I might pass it off to someone else anyway, since I have a separate night action that I can use and might be more useful, depends on how the day progresses.

Oh okay, whatever nvm your good.

# ¿ Jul 6, 2024 16:01

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

kaschei posted:

RWC why did you claim?

kaschei posted:

RWC's choosing to claim makes no sense to me. Wait until you have at least a result to report.
yuming's vote on me seems poorly motivated.

cube's d1 is still the most voteworthy ##vote cubical sucrose

I mean, they recieved a watch right, wasn't a watcher.

Am I mistaken?

# ¿ Jul 6, 2024 16:02

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

Oh I mean, idk. That's kind of the fun of it. I'd only claim it if I had actionable info though.

# ¿ Jul 6, 2024 16:04

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

Grandicap posted:

My d1 townreads of Toalpaz, yuming, and sandwolf all stand, meta reasons for Sandy now what with the dropping off of the face of the earth.

Have a town read of u for obvious reasons

# ¿ Jul 6, 2024 16:53

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

I recieved a rolecop (mystifying, from tm) and hide (good quality, likely grandi since he hinted d2 or whatever and then claimed).

Hmm hmm hmm hmm.

I burned the hide last night. Ripperoni. N1 I rolecopped cube, came out recycler. I hope this helps whoever is managing the spreadsheet.

# ¿ Jul 7, 2024 23:19

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

Doesn't make sense to claim at this time. If it looked like it affected night actions I would. The target was not any flipped player.

# ¿ Jul 7, 2024 23:30

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

yuming posted:

Grandi is scum for his enthusiastic defense of Sand, and for Sand�s enthusiastic defense of Grandi D1.

If you reread D1 imagining them both as scum the day really clicks.

Crumbum runs some distractions, and Sand and Crumbum case Cube for being an easy target, but the evidence a right in thread.

I honestly care very little about the actions with such clear in-thread scuminess.

I feel like we gotta kill grandi here

# ¿ Jul 7, 2024 23:37