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movax
Aug 30, 2008

quote:

Long ago, IBM selected the 8088 processor as the CPU for their Personal Computer.

This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

courtesy of Farmer Crack-rear end

This is the thread to talk about all x86 related things -- Intel, AMD and the others. Enough people were reading both threads and the general feedback was to unify them (plus we need to disable multi-threading / SMT for security reasons) since it's mostly the same folks anyways. Adjacencies (mobos/chipsets/etc) are also fair game here.

No fanboy poo poo here -- we're all adults, regular forum rules apply. AMD makes GPUs -- check out GPU thread.

Non-x86 interest? Check out this thread! https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3970988

Previous Intel Thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3348051
Previous AMD Thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3817104

SA CPU Hall of Fame
* Intel Celeron 300A
* AMD Athlon XP 2600+
* Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (Conroe)
* Intel i7 2500K / 2600K (Sandy Bridge)
* Intel i7-8700K (Coffee Lake, added Nov. 2024)
* AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D (Zen 3, added Nov. 2024)

Time Capsule Q1 2024
* lol Raptor Lake CPUs keep dying
* TDPs are getting ridiculous
* Zen 3/4 are pretty sweet
* we are now wasting die space on client SKUs on AI bullshit
* AMD stock price: $175, INTC stock price: $34

Time Capsule Q3 2024
* INTC 15% layoffs
* AMD stock price: $164, INTC stock price: $19


Previous thread titles
1.just POST
2. required pressure is a function of the surface area of the balls


Previous thread contents as I remember it

movax fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Nov 17, 2024

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movax
Aug 30, 2008

reserve for random poo poo

in a well actually
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

Hey! Intel makes GPUs, too! (lol)

Canned Sunshine
Nov 20, 2005

Merry Fucking Christmas



Intel: Too Many Threads for Stability

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack
Hey look it's a new shiny thing, I like new shiny things.

My only question is, why wasn't this thread announced more clearly? We should have had a press conference to announce that we were going to announce that a new thread will be opened some time in the next 6 months.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

SlapActionJackson
Jul 27, 2006

movax posted:

* AMD stock price: $34, INTC stock price: $175

In Gelsinger's dreams, perhaps.

Fabulousity
Dec 29, 2008

Fuck you say?

AirRaid posted:

Hey look it's a new shiny thing, I like new shiny things.

My only question is, why wasn't this thread announced more clearly? We should have had a press conference to announce that we were going to announce that a new thread will be opened some time in the next 6 months.

We should've at least gotten an Intel marketing slide deck for this. :pseudo:

Fabulousity fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Jul 16, 2024

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


:sickos:

movax
Aug 30, 2008

SlapActionJackson posted:

In Gelsinger's dreams, perhaps.

Oops -- I went back two decades on accident

LRADIKAL
Jun 10, 2001

Fun Shoe
Cool new thread! Use AMD for gaming and high end! Use Intel for a Plex server due to built in transcoding capabilities. What a world!

Tuna-Fish
Sep 13, 2017

AirRaid posted:

Given that they are still "supporting" AM4 right now with a few new CPUs, this is 100% no guarantee that Zen 6 won't be on a new socket with a few Zen5 refreshed CPUs coming out alongside.

The part that doesn't make sense to me is that their CCD+IOD approach would make it trivial to support both in one generation, yet they choose to not do that. Why?

Like, the 6000 series name is unusef on the desktop. Why is 6800X3D not just a 7800X3D with an AM4-compatible IOD? It certainly would sell a lot.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Tuna-Fish posted:

It certainly would sell a lot.

AMD is production limited, not sales limited

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

in a well actually posted:

Hey! Intel makes GPUs, too! (lol)

And that chat was in the gpu thread.

Let's make like x86 and mov to this thread from the old

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

but where do i talk about my larrabee x86 gpu??

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

repiv posted:

but where do i talk about my larrabee x86 gpu??

And Intel basebands!

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Requesting Team Red/Team Blue gang tags

Team Green for the real sickos

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Paging Anime Girlfriend

https://x.com/VideoCardz/status/1813263128395665601?t=WogzZYVOjqqPD65rDakwGQ&s=19

We're gonna get some new toys to play with

Canned Sunshine
Nov 20, 2005

Merry Fucking Christmas



priznat posted:

Requesting Team Red/Team Blue gang tags

Team Green for the real sickos

Cyrix would like a word with you Sir

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

:blastu::siren:CYRIX GANG RISE UP, THIS IS OUR TURF:siren::blastu:



Post ur Cyrix STAX, heres mine:



nice 486 scrub, why dont you grow up and install ever more bigger numbers like an ADULT



5 not good enough? no PROBLEM, your brand couldnt even DREAM of a 6x86!



Shouts to the homies in all affiliated clicks including:

IDT, VIA, Transmeta, NexGen (until they SOLD OUT to AMD), NEC V20, Rise, and the torchbearers into the future, Zhaoxin.

Heres to the Cyrix based future, now time to benchmark some of my babies to show you all the power of Cyrix Supremacy:







wait what the gently caress this thing sucks

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015

Cygni posted:

:blastu::siren:CYRIX GANG RISE UP, THIS IS OUR TURF:siren::blastu:



Post ur Cyrix STAX, heres mine:



nice 486 scrub, why dont you grow up and install ever more bigger numbers like an ADULT



5 not good enough? no PROBLEM, your brand couldnt even DREAM of a 6x86!



Shouts to the homies in all affiliated clicks including:

IDT, VIA, Transmeta, NexGen (until they SOLD OUT to AMD), NEC V20, Rise, and the torchbearers into the future, Zhaoxin.

Heres to the Cyrix based future, now time to benchmark some of my babies to show you all the power of Cyrix Supremacy:







wait what the gently caress this thing sucks

THERE’S STILL TIME TO WIN

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

quote:

x86: just POST

aww, I clicked the title hoping for 32-bit stuff

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Canned Sunshine posted:

Cyrix would like a word with you Sir

*a wild transmeta has entered the chat*

E: lmao at the cyrix nostalgia, I never got one but not because I knew better.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

ryanrs posted:

aww, I clicked the title hoping for 32-bit stuff

It’s the x86 thread, not the x86S thread so it should be fine

DoombatINC
Apr 20, 2003

Here's the thing, I'm a feminist.





Rumors of Intel doing another LGA1700 release next year, this one including some 8, 10 and 12 P-Core only CPUs

https://x.com/VideoCardz/status/1813113238294303201

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

does that mean we get functional AVX512 on those

LRADIKAL
Jun 10, 2001

Fun Shoe

repiv posted:

does that mean we get functional AVX512 on those

Look into your heart. You already know the answer.

Number19
May 14, 2003

HOCKEY OWNS
FUCK YEAH


repiv posted:

does that mean we get functional AVX512 CPUs on those

fixed to ask the real question

movax
Aug 30, 2008

There's already the PC Parts Picking thread, so I don't think there is any point in effort-posting an OP here to keep recs up to date, right?

At most the idea of time capsuling per quarter to check back on in another ten years of dead gay forums is probably doable. Retroactive time capsules are no fun...

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Number19 posted:

fixed to ask the real question

It's not a recent Intel CPU so should be ok

movax
Aug 30, 2008

SpaceDrake posted:

Well, remember that the 9000 X3D part is gonna be the 9800X3D. "Downscaled" parts lower than 9800 will likely be some time coming (we don't even have 7700X3D or 7600X3D parts yet!) Which has driven me a little nuts because thanks to the 7900X3D, we know they must have the six-core CCD for a potential 7600X3D literally ready to go.

Also to correct a previous post of mine from old AMD thread, I think what I am waiting for now is the Zen 5 version of the 7800X3D which is 9800X3D, yep -- not 9700X3D. Call me when we figure out heterogenous compute / nail having disparate dies.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

priznat posted:

It's not a recent Intel CPU so should be ok

Included in the line is a new mask with 12 Raptor Cove P-cores, same as 13th/14th gen. It was expected for a while to be edge server only, but I guess they might bring it to desktop too? After Arrow Lake launches?

Number19
May 14, 2003

HOCKEY OWNS
FUCK YEAH


Cygni posted:

Included in the line is a new mask with 12 Raptor Cove P-cores, same as 13th/14th gen. It was expected for a while to be edge server only, but I guess they might bring it to desktop too? After Arrow Lake launches?

You'd hope they've fixed whatever the problem is with these. It might even be that this is "the fix" and they will offer to upgrade anyone with a broken Raptor Lake CPU to these to make the problem go away.

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack

movax posted:

I think what I am waiting for now is the Zen 5 version of the 7800X3D which is 9800X3D, yep -- not 9700X3D.

Same. I am waiting on the 9000 X3D parts and the nVidia 50 series GPUs to do an entirely new build.

:f5:

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

ask me about nix or tailscale

movax posted:

There's already the PC Parts Picking thread, so I don't think there is any point in effort-posting an OP here to keep recs up to date, right?

agreed

might be nice to have some links to good industry/tech analysts, semiconductor discussion forums, explainers about processes and architectures/topologies, etc.?

maybe?

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


I wasn't planning to build a new PC this year, but I fear I may not be able to control myself when I see 9800X3D reviews

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Cygni posted:

Included in the line is a new mask with 12 Raptor Cove P-cores, same as 13th/14th gen. It was expected for a while to be edge server only, but I guess they might bring it to desktop too? After Arrow Lake launches?

I got my threads mixed up and thought the previous comment was referring to the new sub $100 Ryzen 3s! Already there is confusion within the thread! revert!!

biznatchio
Mar 31, 2001


Buglord

Fabulousity posted:

We should've at least gotten an Intel marketing slide deck for this. :pseudo:



BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009





Chips And Cheese, a site that functions a lot like Anandtech used to back in the day, has done a video interview with Mike Clark, who's the chief architect of Zen 5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoZ0hP9mkU4
It's also available as a transcript

They also have an article on the AMD Zen4C Bergamo server CPUs.

BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Jul 16, 2024

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Ceyton
Oct 9, 2004

YOU'RE DEAD ARMITAGE!
YOU'RE DEAD ARMITAGE!
YOU'RE DEAD ARMITAGE!

Canned Sunshine posted:

Cyrix would like a word with you Sir

Yeah well tell him I said
code:
        movl    $c, %ebx
again:  xchgl   (%ebx), %eax
        movl    %eax, %edx
        jmp     again

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