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CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

EGalz18 posted:

Potentially, yeah. You thinking actions that affect the current layer get resolved first before folks have a chance to get snoozy?

So I think either:
- Kills happen earlier than going deeper.
- Scum can kill someone going deeper if they also are going deeper.
- (Something else I'm missing)

This doesn't seem super helpful I guess.

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CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

ObamaAkbar. posted:

CapnAndy could you please explain exactly how you came to be here and what you know? Were you able to read any of the previous threads? Please no one help him

I'm here to help!

Tokes PMed me about playing but since I was on vacation from Wednesday to Sunday (GenCon, I had a blast), I couldn't play, but she said there was a role that wouldn't activate until later in the game, and I was like "yes, that please".

I bookmarked the main game so I could catch up when I got home but didn't actually read it, so imagine my surprise to learn there's multiple games going. Very Inception! I'm allowed to read the main game and the first dream up to a certain point, which I'll do over the course of today.

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CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

JosefStalinator posted:

And probably never will be sadly

Are we ever gonna get night action reports or anything from anyone

My guess is it's D1 all the way down, friend.

# ? Aug 6, 2024 16:02

JosefStalinator: Oct 9, 2007; Come Tbilisi if you want to live.; Grimey Drawer

CubicalSucrose posted:

My guess is it's D1 all the way down, friend.

Can we just do permanent joke phase then

# ? Aug 6, 2024 16:06

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

kaschei posted:

Also what your deal is / victory condition

Sorry, quoted the first question immediately and din't see this one, so now y'all get a doublepost.

I'm a part of somebody's subconcious (I guess they got the good training from the movie that lets you do that). Yes, I know who. No, we can't communicate. I'm not sure if they know about me. I'm... not gonna tell you my victory condition five minutes (for me) into a game you guys have been playing for days, because that just seems prudent. Hunting scum is part of it, so I'm happy to focus on just that part until I have a better handle on what's going on and we've all built some trust.

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Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

CubicalSucrose posted:

So I think either:
- Kills happen earlier than going deeper.
- Scum can kill someone going deeper if they also are going deeper.
- (Something else I'm missing)

This doesn't seem super helpful I guess.

My thinking was it happened before anything else but I don't have any real reason that it couldn't the second (or third) option

# ? Aug 6, 2024 16:07

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

CapnAndy posted:

Sorry, quoted the first question immediately and din't see this one, so now y'all get a doublepost.

I'm a part of somebody's subconcious (I guess they got the good training from the movie that lets you do that). Yes, I know who. No, we can't communicate. I'm not sure if they know about me. I'm... not gonna tell you my victory condition five minutes (for me) into a game you guys have been playing for days, because that just seems prudent. Hunting scum is part of it, so I'm happy to focus on just that part until I have a better handle on what's going on and we've all built some trust.

Well now you are making me think it's something beyond "no more threats to Dream Corp" but I understand the hesitation

# ? Aug 6, 2024 16:08

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CapnAndy posted:

I'm here to help!

Tokes PMed me about playing but since I was on vacation from Wednesday to Sunday (GenCon, I had a blast), I couldn't play, but she said there was a role that wouldn't activate until later in the game, and I was like "yes, that please".

I bookmarked the main game so I could catch up when I got home but didn't actually read it, so imagine my surprise to learn there's multiple games going. Very Inception! I'm allowed to read the main game and the first dream up to a certain point, which I'll do over the course of today.

GenCon?? What are you...Some kinda nerd???

_{It's very nice to meet you}

# ? Aug 6, 2024 16:09

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

CubicalSucrose posted:

My guess is it's D1 all the way down, friend.

Yeah stop dreaming deeper if you want reports!

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JosefStalinator posted:

Can we just do permanent joke phase then

Not unless you want to get sussed by RWC

# ? Aug 6, 2024 16:09

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

CapnAndy posted:

Sorry, quoted the first question immediately and din't see this one, so now y'all get a doublepost.

I'm a part of somebody's subconcious (I guess they got the good training from the movie that lets you do that). Yes, I know who. No, we can't communicate. I'm not sure if they know about me. I'm... not gonna tell you my victory condition five minutes (for me) into a game you guys have been playing for days, because that just seems prudent. Hunting scum is part of it, so I'm happy to focus on just that part until I have a better handle on what's going on and we've all built some trust.

OOoooOooooOo Nice!

# ? Aug 6, 2024 16:11

SporkChan: Oct 20, 2010; One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

CubicalSucrose posted:

So I think either:
- Kills happen earlier than going deeper.
- Scum can kill someone going deeper if they also are going deeper.
- (Something else I'm missing)

This doesn't seem super helpful I guess.

I think, going off of answers I got from mods about my own night action, that night actions are processed before layer dream actions.

So the ##dream action most likely goes at the very end of the order, after even the kill.

# ? Aug 6, 2024 16:14

SporkChan: Oct 20, 2010; One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

Hal Incandenza posted:

Yeah stop dreaming deeper if you want reports!

And yeah, this. I suppose it could be that the people who have gotten cool night actions are the one's who have stayed behind in layers?

# ? Aug 6, 2024 16:15

JosefStalinator: Oct 9, 2007; Come Tbilisi if you want to live.; Grimey Drawer

EGalz18 posted:

Not unless you want to get sussed by RWC

Too late for that

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CapnAndy posted:

Sorry, quoted the first question immediately and din't see this one, so now y'all get a doublepost.

I'm a part of somebody's subconcious (I guess they got the good training from the movie that lets you do that). Yes, I know who. No, we can't communicate. I'm not sure if they know about me. I'm... not gonna tell you my victory condition five minutes (for me) into a game you guys have been playing for days, because that just seems prudent. Hunting scum is part of it, so I'm happy to focus on just that part until I have a better handle on what's going on and we've all built some trust.

okay so you're 3p

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shwinnebego: Jul 11, 2002

JosefStalinator posted:

Can we just do permanent joke phase then

Not very Stalin to oppose to actually existing phase in one thread in favor of permanent joke phase

# ? Aug 6, 2024 16:43

shwinnebego: Jul 11, 2002

CapnAndy posted:

I'm here to help!

Tokes PMed me about playing but since I was on vacation from Wednesday to Sunday (GenCon, I had a blast), I couldn't play, but she said there was a role that wouldn't activate until later in the game, and I was like "yes, that please".

I bookmarked the main game so I could catch up when I got home but didn't actually read it, so imagine my surprise to learn there's multiple games going. Very Inception! I'm allowed to read the main game and the first dream up to a certain point, which I'll do over the course of today.

You can read all of the main game? The rest of us were only allowed to read the first day. If so please tell us what happened D2 in the main thread

# ? Aug 6, 2024 16:44

shwinnebego: Jul 11, 2002

Phuzz is scum imo I hope our comrades in the layer up yeet her.

Not sure about yall

I wasn�t feeling the tucker yeet but wasn�t around at deadline and gotta re-read

I think sandwolf is scum too. Which is also not helpful for us

# ? Aug 6, 2024 16:45

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# ? Aug 6, 2024 16:49

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

shwinnebego posted:

You can read all of the main game? The rest of us were only allowed to read the first day. If so please tell us what happened D2 in the main thread

No, sorry. "A certain point" was meant to modify both "the main game" and "the first dream"; I've got cutout points on both.

And I just checked and my main thread cutout point is the end of N1. So I'm at the same point as you guys, I think -- that post did have the N1 results in it, I'm confirming if I'm allowed to know those. If I am and you guys don't know it, I'll tell you.

Tired Moritz posted:

okay so you're 3p

Technically yes. I can't win unless the town wins, but the town winning alone doesn't give me the victory.

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shwinnebego: Jul 11, 2002

Should we kill capnandy

# ? Aug 6, 2024 16:56

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Okay, I'm allowed to know the N1 results. Zzyzx was killed, they were a town cop.

shwinnebego posted:

Should we kill capnandy

I'd prefer it if you didn't!

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CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

##vote JosefStalinator

# ? Aug 6, 2024 16:58

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

shwinnebego posted:

Should we kill capnandy

I dunno, seems like we probably have actual scum somewhere here that we might be better served going after. Maugrim seemed harmless yesterday.

But if you subscribe to the merk "kill all 3p" credo, maybe. Doesn't appear that he's doing much to help the town wincon at least

# ? Aug 6, 2024 16:59

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

CapnAndy posted:

Okay, I'm allowed to know the N1 results. Zzyzx was killed, they were a town cop.

I'd prefer it if you didn't!

Yeah we did get that info too

# ? Aug 6, 2024 17:00

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Hal Incandenza posted:

Doesn't appear that he's doing much to help the town wincon at least

I require all threats to Dream Corp to be eliminated. I just need something else to happen too while I'm at it. I am definitely here to help.

# ? Aug 6, 2024 17:04

CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

shwinnebego posted:

Should we kill capnandy

Ehhh. Hard to say. Setup spec suggests it'd be imbalanced to just keep adding new anti-town each layer?

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shwinnebego: Jul 11, 2002

##vote zoya

# ? Aug 6, 2024 17:08

SporkChan: Oct 20, 2010; One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

shwinnebego posted:

Should we kill capnandy

Nah. He's a town with an added stipulation (if we believe what he says). So he's town on hard mode, not a 3P.

# ? Aug 6, 2024 17:14

SporkChan: Oct 20, 2010; One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

CubicalSucrose posted:

Ehhh. Hard to say. Setup spec suggests it'd be imbalanced to just keep adding new anti-town each layer?

Unless the game started with scum severely underpowered, maybe?

Nah never mind. I think Andy (and Maugrim before him) are both fine.

# ? Aug 6, 2024 17:15

CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Can anyone make a town case on JS?

# ? Aug 6, 2024 17:22

JosefStalinator: Oct 9, 2007; Come Tbilisi if you want to live.; Grimey Drawer

CubicalSucrose posted:

Can anyone make a town case on JS?

yeah my role PM

# ? Aug 6, 2024 17:23

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

CubicalSucrose posted:

Can anyone make a town case on JS?

I genuinely can't remember anything he's done at all, so, no

# ? Aug 6, 2024 17:23

ObamaAkbar.: Apr 7, 2009; DesiredPopulationMin = 3
DesiredPopulationMax = 19
AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13

CubicalSucrose posted:

Wolo dying suggests some info about resolution order, which is useful.

I don�t see how it�s that useful

# ? Aug 6, 2024 17:33

ObamaAkbar.: Apr 7, 2009; DesiredPopulationMin = 3
DesiredPopulationMax = 19
AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13

CapnAndy posted:

I'm here to help!

Tokes PMed me about playing but since I was on vacation from Wednesday to Sunday (GenCon, I had a blast), I couldn't play, but she said there was a role that wouldn't activate until later in the game, and I was like "yes, that please".

I bookmarked the main game so I could catch up when I got home but didn't actually read it, so imagine my surprise to learn there's multiple games going. Very Inception! I'm allowed to read the main game and the first dream up to a certain point, which I'll do over the course of today.

I was hoping you weren�t allowed to read the other threads. Seems maugrim was able to as well which seems odd if you are a dream only entity.

# ? Aug 6, 2024 17:38

ObamaAkbar.: Apr 7, 2009; DesiredPopulationMin = 3
DesiredPopulationMax = 19
AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13

CapnAndy posted:

Sorry, quoted the first question immediately and din't see this one, so now y'all get a doublepost.

I'm a part of somebody's subconcious (I guess they got the good training from the movie that lets you do that). Yes, I know who. No, we can't communicate. I'm not sure if they know about me. I'm... not gonna tell you my victory condition five minutes (for me) into a game you guys have been playing for days, because that just seems prudent. Hunting scum is part of it, so I'm happy to focus on just that part until I have a better handle on what's going on and we've all built some trust.

This is new information at least. So your alignment is probably linked to whoever your partner is.

# ? Aug 6, 2024 17:40

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ObamaAkbar. posted:

I was hoping you weren’t allowed to read the other threads. Seems maugrim was able to as well which seems odd if you are a dream only entity.

If they're a part of someone's subconscious, then they should know what that person knows. Makes sense to me: shrug:

# ? Aug 6, 2024 17:41

ObamaAkbar.: Apr 7, 2009; DesiredPopulationMin = 3
DesiredPopulationMax = 19
AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13

SporkChan posted:

Unless the game started with scum severely underpowered, maybe?

Nah never mind. I think Andy (and Maugrim before him) are both fine.

I think this a dangerous thing to assume. Could be either or both of them is linked to the subconscious of a scum player

# ? Aug 6, 2024 17:45

ObamaAkbar.: Apr 7, 2009; DesiredPopulationMin = 3
DesiredPopulationMax = 19
AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13

EGalz18 posted:

If they're a part of someone's subconscious, then they should know what that person knows. Makes sense to me: shrug:

Yeah that makes sense

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# ? May 17, 2025 19:54

ObamaAkbar.: Apr 7, 2009; DesiredPopulationMin = 3
DesiredPopulationMax = 19
AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13

CubicalSucrose posted:

Can anyone make a town case on JS?

Why do you want people to make town cases?

# ? Aug 6, 2024 17:47

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