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EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

SporkChan posted:

*Slight modification to Cube's posted votecount at day end.

Comparing that to the player count here we have the following posters:

- CapnAndy - Mystery
- CubicalSucrose - Poster #2
- Hal Incandenza - Poster #3
- Zoya - Poster #4
- shwinnebego - Poster #5
- Rhymes With Clue - Poster #6
- kaschei - Poster #8
- Voodoofly - Poster #9
- EGalz18 - Poster #10
- SporkChan - Poster #11
- Tired Moritz - Poster #13
- ObamaAkbar. - Poster #14
- JosefStalinator - Poster #16
- Maerlyn - Poster #17

Poster #1, wologar, was killed in the night.
I was told that there was only space for 13 players, ties broken by posting count.

Jose Valasquez had a spot and is not here.
PhantomMuzzles had a spot and is not here.

I'm also suspicious of both Josef and Maer for being here.

Well, PMuzz isn't here because she's scum and probably carried out the nightkill. Not that we can do anything about that here. I'll do the homework to back that up when I get home, but I reconsidered her end of day yesterday and didn't like it

# ¿ Aug 6, 2024 14:41

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# ¿ May 13, 2025 19:48

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

I could vote Maer, Josef, and Hal today

# ¿ Aug 6, 2024 14:42

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Maybe CapnAndy depending on what they have to say. But that's mostly mechanical curiosity

# ¿ Aug 6, 2024 14:43

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Hal Incandenza posted:

Maer how come you have no imagination (in the game, not real life).

Is your flavor like Dream Corp Accountant or something?

Maerlyn posted:

alright whatever, I've said everything pretty much anyway

I'm VT, Dreamcorp aligned and an engineer. I thought Meen was as well with the "ready to dream" blurb so claiming HR seemed like a mistake

are we all town but competing companies? that's the only thing to explain why suddenly Cube, wol, Zoya and Voodoo are all reacting like their buttholes clenched simulataneously.

# ¿ Aug 6, 2024 15:23

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Hal Incandenza posted:

Even if for whatever reason you want to vote me today, I am with you on the PMuzz being scum. Didn’t like the way she forced a narrative about your interactions yesterday (if you recall I called her out on it) and once the two of you got back into it I didn’t think she was responding well.

I do recall that. But I still find you too delightful and agreeable, which makes me suspicious! Normally, you ping the heck out of me when we're both living our best town lives

# ¿ Aug 6, 2024 15:25

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Hal Incandenza posted:

Oh yeah? What did those people do?

I mean I’d vote Maer again

Maer is still residual wifom from her "volunteer" offer yesterday.

Josef has felt...off. Grumpy. Although I should go back and read the Wolo/Josef interactions from yesterday with townWolo eyes

# ¿ Aug 6, 2024 15:27

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

CubicalSucrose posted:

Wolo dying suggests some info about resolution order, which is useful.

Potentially, yeah. You thinking actions that affect the current layer get resolved first before folks have a chance to get snoozy?

# ¿ Aug 6, 2024 15:30

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Maerlyn posted:

Reluctance to make actual cases/read past threads

there is more but honestly it's mostly vibe based

I'll have to explain more later, it's vet time for our tortoise

What is the tortoise's name, please?

# ¿ Aug 6, 2024 15:31

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

CapnAndy posted:

I'm here to help!

Tokes PMed me about playing but since I was on vacation from Wednesday to Sunday (GenCon, I had a blast), I couldn't play, but she said there was a role that wouldn't activate until later in the game, and I was like "yes, that please".

I bookmarked the main game so I could catch up when I got home but didn't actually read it, so imagine my surprise to learn there's multiple games going. Very Inception! I'm allowed to read the main game and the first dream up to a certain point, which I'll do over the course of today.

GenCon?? What are you...Some kinda nerd???

_{It's very nice to meet you}

# ¿ Aug 6, 2024 16:09

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

JosefStalinator posted:

Can we just do permanent joke phase then

Not unless you want to get sussed by RWC

# ¿ Aug 6, 2024 16:09

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

CapnAndy posted:

Sorry, quoted the first question immediately and din't see this one, so now y'all get a doublepost.

I'm a part of somebody's subconcious (I guess they got the good training from the movie that lets you do that). Yes, I know who. No, we can't communicate. I'm not sure if they know about me. I'm... not gonna tell you my victory condition five minutes (for me) into a game you guys have been playing for days, because that just seems prudent. Hunting scum is part of it, so I'm happy to focus on just that part until I have a better handle on what's going on and we've all built some trust.

OOoooOooooOo Nice!

# ¿ Aug 6, 2024 16:11

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

ObamaAkbar. posted:

I was hoping you weren’t allowed to read the other threads. Seems maugrim was able to as well which seems odd if you are a dream only entity.

If they're a part of someone's subconscious, then they should know what that person knows. Makes sense to me: shrug:

# ¿ Aug 6, 2024 17:41

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

JosefStalinator posted:

interesting, this suggests that scum (probably) can't kill and dream, or maybe even take other actions

This has been posited, yes

# ¿ Aug 6, 2024 18:07

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

CapnAndy posted:

Can you real people choose to wake up? What would happen, I wonder. It's "still" day 2 down here but I bet they've moved on since then.

Reality thread "kicked" Molly awake from the train layer, but otherwise afaik, if we're asleep, we stay asleep

# ¿ Aug 6, 2024 18:09

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

EGalz18 posted:

Reality thread "kicked" Molly awake from the train layer, but otherwise afaik, if we're asleep, we stay asleep

I think the busy days might be coordinated Kick days to try to get back to Reality, but that's movie-based setup spec and should be given minimal credence

# ¿ Aug 6, 2024 18:10

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Hal Incandenza posted:

Do we have confirmation somewhere that the reality thread was responsible? That's quite interesting if so

Shwinn stole the flip post from the Reality thread. I don't know if he was supposed to, but it talked about the Kick action. Tokes or wins can come and MIB memory wipe us if we aren’t supposed to have seen it, I guess. PMuzz talked about it in Train thread and didn't seem to get wrist slapped

# ¿ Aug 6, 2024 18:12

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Hal Incandenza posted:

I missed the zyzzx extended flip, but I guess now I too have the forbidden knowledge

I'm sorry

# ¿ Aug 6, 2024 18:24

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Way behind. Sorry for the catch up posts

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 15:48

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Zoya posted:

wologar was a very weird kill choice, for that matter, but it's not really worth thinking about too hard because that's what the "deep dream" team have to figure out today without us

I don't think wologar was a weird kill choice if scum needed a spot to Dream or if they were worried about him powering up. Or continuing to post prolificly

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 15:48

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Tired Moritz posted:

Flips sides*

Worse case scenario, if there are scum in all the threads and they all get killed, this game would end pretty quickly. And the same thing for town, if town keeps getting ML'd, that would effectively mean that town dies at an excessively faster rate?

Unless scum have a bananas wincon like must control the vote on all levels

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 15:48

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

CubicalSucrose posted:

Okay. Here's where my head was at earlier today.

1) I have thought JS scummy since D1.
2) I was VT Level 0, VT Level 1 (Train), non-VT Level 2 (School).
3) JS was on the borderline of activity in Level 1 and didn't make any strong efforts to post out of it (contrast with EGalz who I pushed similarly in the Train).
4) Short day.
5) JS asked for results today.
6) I haven't fully reread the previous days.

JS asking about results suggests something like one of:
A) They are VT L0 & L1 & L2 (in which case, why risk staying on L1 with too-low activity to guarantee a slot in L2?).
B) They are scum trying to fish out power roles and/or setup info.

Rather than asking people for a scum case on JS (because I already had a scum read on JS), I asked for town cases (because of point #6 above I might've forgotten something important that JS did that was a good thing).

Since we're now two power roles down, and again short day, it seems like eliminating an at-worst-VT is a pretty good starting point for this day. We also have the CapnAndy default elim if we want, but I think JS is scummier.

Something about this post doesn't feel right

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 15:48

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

ObamaAkbar. posted:

The reason I wanted them to not have read the thread is so they couldn’t just ape what maugrim posted

In my heart, Maug and CapnAndy are the same projection

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 15:49

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

ObamaAkbar. posted:

No one like my mae case then?

I don't dislike it

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 15:49

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

CapnAndy posted:

shwinne is twanging my antenna like crazy because he won't stop harping on what the scum might be doing and/or planning and it's all such WIFOM. He's so very very into the mechanics of it all and from where I'm sitting, I don't see what that gains us. Too many unknowns.

It's hard not to, though! Like, I agree that group planning night actions in the thread is not a good idea and Shwinne should be squinted at for it, but it is really fun to think about all of the turning cogs in this game.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 15:51

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Tired Moritz posted:

I think it's schwinne and I think sandwolf separating away from them is done to distance themselves from each other.

Huh

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 15:52

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Hal Incandenza posted:

I would vote shwinne just for implying I’m not always affable, what the heck.

You're EXTRA affable when scum though

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 15:54

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Tired Moritz posted:

mmmm maybe maerlyn is just bored town. honestly, permanent day 1 with no info is driving me a bit bonkers too.

TMor has been dropping a lot of ho hum woe is bored me posts, and they rankle me

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 16:05

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Hal Incandenza posted:

I would definitely like to hear more from Sandwolf. I understand being gunshy a little after the meen debacle but his Tom stuff yesterday was pretty stinky with all the “I dunno about this vote guys but I’ll do it” that happened a lot more than it needed to. Starting to lean scum there

Did someone point out that Sand's not here yet?

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 16:06

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

JosefStalinator posted:

Cube moving up my list because this seems like something cube could easily do, picked someone who was all over the place, and continues to just blindly throw out weird spec reads and whatnot, none of which is coming off as very good scumhunting or genuine

This is a good read imo. I feel like Cube of any alignment is an informed Cube

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 16:06

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

SporkChan posted:

Upstate NY. They're aren't outlawed, they just don't count as real tacos.

I'm sorry for your loss

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 16:06

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

JosefStalinator posted:

Why do I care about my post count?

I suppose....

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 16:07

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Hal Incandenza posted:

I’m also watching Inception tonight perhaps that will reveal all your secrets to me

Yesss gooood

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 16:07

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

CapnAndy posted:

I realize this is all extremely tantalizing, but it's a distraction nonetheless, so: somebody got training so that their subconcious mind would aid them during a dream. I am that subconcious. I'm here to do a job, and my job is to help Dream Corp. Please just try to take that on faith until I show you any reason to mistrust me.

Zoya posted:

anyone focusing all their energy on the 3P/orthowin/whatever he is instead of trying to yeet scum is getting serious side-eye from me rn

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 16:15

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Hal Incandenza posted:

I’m probably going to fall back asleep (I hope) but still be up before deadline. Between those two choices I think I favor Cube? I don’t know… shwinn attempting to coordinate our actions and being so adamant about people not following being scummy seems too blatant to be scummy as opposed to stubborn town shwinn, do you think he’d make a bold scum move like that?

Hal Incandenza posted:

Unless the implication is that JS has a power that lets him into the dream regardless of post count I’m still unclear how that would make sense as a scum tactic.

Saying he didn’t try harder to get into the dream but still attempted to dream so he can be here to kill us does not compute

I find myself agreeing with these Hal posts

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 16:19

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Hal Incandenza posted:

I am enjoying cube and EGalz getting all these posts in

The speediest catch up in the (mid)West!

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 16:31

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Maerlyn posted:

Cube fake claims as scum all the time, I'm really not interested in switching unless it's to TM

I would hella swerve to TMor

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 16:34

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

JosefStalinator posted:

Did you start with that or did you get it as you got deeper

This feels...forced? Cube had already said that he was VT until this layet

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 16:35

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

CubicalSucrose posted:

Page 14, your go-to page for historical vote comparisons.

I forgot that you'd hammered both days. Want to go three for three? It'd be funny. Not helpful, but funny

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 16:39

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Hmm... I can definitely switch, but I want to see what happens if ##vote TMor

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 16:42

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# ¿ May 13, 2025 19:48

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

SporkChan posted:

I mean, not much. Not enough people to switch to a whole new case, and I'm pretty sure TMor is sleeping at this time of day.

Crazier faster swerves have happened, but you're probably right. That's where my true scumvibes are, though

# ¿ Aug 7, 2024 16:44

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