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Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

EGalz18 posted:

I could vote Maer, Josef, and Hal today

Oh yeah? What did those people do?

I mean I’d vote Maer again

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Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Maerlyn posted:

I'm surprised I'm here too, I thought I wouldn't make the cut

I'm still vanilla / have no other night actions other than dreaming so I've just "entered the dream" both nights...not sure what would have happened if I did nothing, maybe stay in dream level 1?

Also I expect to be the yeet today but Cube is absolutely scum ##vote Cube

I would assume if you did nothing you’d stay in place, why wouldn’t you?

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Nice to see capn andy here though

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

EGalz18 posted:

Well, PMuzz isn't here because she's scum and probably carried out the nightkill. Not that we can do anything about that here. I'll do the homework to back that up when I get home, but I reconsidered her end of day yesterday and didn't like it

Even if for whatever reason you want to vote me today, I am with you on the PMuzz being scum. Didn’t like the way she forced a narrative about your interactions yesterday (if you recall I called her out on it) and once the two of you got back into it I didn’t think she was responding well.

I don’t really like spork coming in and acting like it’s super crazy for Josef and Maer to be here since they were close to the cutoff list and it’s not THAT unlikely they would have been able to get in here. Seems wrong to put suspicion on the solely based on that, if anything it might make them seem a bit townier

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Maer how come you have no imagination (in the game, not real life).

Is your flavor like Dream Corp Accountant or something?

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

I wonder if someone will get yeeted back awake again today like Molly was, seems like that may have been someone’s power?

Also this plane has almost all Nolan movies but NOT Inception so I’ll have to watch it at home tonight

This is a great day for me to have a 32 hour real life day, I can be here almost the whole game day!

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

JosefStalinator posted:

Huh didn't think I'd make it here

Were you just vanilla yesterday?

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

CubicalSucrose posted:

So I think either:
- Kills happen earlier than going deeper.
- Scum can kill someone going deeper if they also are going deeper.
- (Something else I'm missing)

This doesn't seem super helpful I guess.

My thinking was it happened before anything else but I don't have any real reason that it couldn't the second (or third) option

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

CapnAndy posted:

Sorry, quoted the first question immediately and din't see this one, so now y'all get a doublepost.

I'm a part of somebody's subconcious (I guess they got the good training from the movie that lets you do that). Yes, I know who. No, we can't communicate. I'm not sure if they know about me. I'm... not gonna tell you my victory condition five minutes (for me) into a game you guys have been playing for days, because that just seems prudent. Hunting scum is part of it, so I'm happy to focus on just that part until I have a better handle on what's going on and we've all built some trust.

Well now you are making me think it's something beyond "no more threats to Dream Corp" but I understand the hesitation

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

CubicalSucrose posted:

My guess is it's D1 all the way down, friend.

Yeah stop dreaming deeper if you want reports!

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

shwinnebego posted:

Should we kill capnandy

I dunno, seems like we probably have actual scum somewhere here that we might be better served going after. Maugrim seemed harmless yesterday.

But if you subscribe to the merk "kill all 3p" credo, maybe. Doesn't appear that he's doing much to help the town wincon at least

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

CapnAndy posted:

Okay, I'm allowed to know the N1 results. Zzyzx was killed, they were a town cop.

I'd prefer it if you didn't!

Yeah we did get that info too

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

CubicalSucrose posted:

Can anyone make a town case on JS?

I genuinely can't remember anything he's done at all, so, no

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

CubicalSucrose posted:

Because I don't want to fullclaim and hardpush JS today if I missed something.

Oh well ok then, this partial claim that you have reason to think JS is scum is certainly a thing though

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

JosefStalinator posted:

interesting, this suggests that scum (probably) can't kill and dream, or maybe even take other actions

I'm pretty sure this correct, it's dream or act.

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

JosefStalinator posted:

I'm vanilla and I don't think i can ever be anything else so I'm dreaming to the end baybee

Does your PM not imply you might get powers if you go deeper or is this just pessimism from not getting anything yet

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

EGalz18 posted:

Reality thread "kicked" Molly awake from the train layer, but otherwise afaik, if we're asleep, we stay asleep

Do we have confirmation somewhere that the reality thread was responsible? That's quite interesting if so

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Zoya posted:

probably. it's kind of a fascinating idea that every dream level we probably shed a stab-happy scum, so every day if you get left behind you know there's probably a killer with you on that layer

Yeah and those are small pools so I hope they are getting those scum! But also if so it seems like scum could coordinate and leave enough people behind at least early on to have vote control immediately

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

I missed the zyzzx extended flip, but I guess now I too have the forbidden knowledge

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Maerlyn posted:

on what are you basing your information?

I came to the same conclusion based on logic

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Zoya posted:

well, also,

yeah i don't really understand what cube revealing the "you have to choose dream or action" info bit has anything to do with Josef. he framed the information weirdly, i'd like to know why

Thirding this, I thought it weird in the moment and meant to say something too

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Maerlyn posted:

If you're allowed to read the main game are you allowed to pass on whatever happened in thread after D1 hammer (around page 35)?

He already said he can only read the D1 stuff from both threads same as us unfortunately

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

CubicalSucrose posted:

JS's result-fishing has led to two outed power roles for this layer.

His what now?

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

I would vote shwinne just for implying I’m not always affable, what the heck.

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

ObamaAkbar. posted:

No one like my mae case then?

I thought it was pretty good. I was already predisposed to like it though

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

JosefStalinator posted:

because... you're scum!??

Would have appeared more forceful to use two exclamations and one question mark imo

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Tired Moritz posted:

I think it's schwinne and I think sandwolf separating away from them is done to distance themselves from each other.

I would definitely like to hear more from Sandwolf. I understand being gunshy a little after the meen debacle but his Tom stuff yesterday was pretty stinky with all the “I dunno about this vote guys but I’ll do it” that happened a lot more than it needed to. Starting to lean scum there

Shwinn I’ve had a town read on most of the game even if he’s driving me bonkers with his tunnel on me which is just because I’m playing mafia. I’ve been pretty vocal that I was on vacation for two weeks and actually had time to play real mafia like I did 500 games ago.

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004


I guess if you are then asking me instead of making an accusation then my answer is no, I am not scum, I was predisposed to like it because I’ve been calling Maerlyn scummy for a bit now and that is where my vote was yesterday.

But if your purpose was just to humorously and scummily shade me then mission accomplished as well

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Voodoofly posted:

Can anyone provide a quick summary of whatever the hell is going on mechanics wise that people seem to be claiming? Like who has claimed what about setup, etc?

People have determined that you can’t both dream harder and do an action, that kills most likely happen before dreaming, scum might be not dreaming so they can do the kill, and someone in reality can probably boot people from dreams

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Zoya posted:

wow i was expecting more posts when i got back to the thread i guess everyone else must've went to go pick up taco tuesday 6 tacos for 10 bucks too

how'd y'all like your tacos? mine were okay

I had a birria one and a mushroom and hatch green chile one, they both good but the hatch one was extra hot hatch and maybe a tiny bit hotter than I wanted

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

CubicalSucrose posted:

Shwinn had a decent D2 I think? Whereas JS has had zero good days.

I thought his D1 was much better than his D2. Yesterday he seemed to have way less conviction in anything. Both days he's been moving his vote around like crazy though

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

JosefStalinator posted:

##vote cube

don't feel good about zoya or shwinn, followed by maer/RWC

What's your issue with RWC? I find her about the towniest person so far, although I think EGalz has moved up the list for me lately

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Yes I will revisit things in the morning too.

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Tired Moritz posted:

I think he's busy tho

Seemed like he was sorta busy, sorta taking thing easy but it’s been dragging on a bit now

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

JosefStalinator posted:

Lazily piled on me with wolo but didn't really pursue it, letting wolo lead the charge. Reeks a bit of scum doing a drive by, encouraging town to be wrong town but backing off before they can be tied too badly to a potential town lunch

Alright well I guess you’ve got your reasons, but I don’t really agree

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

I’m also watching Inception tonight perhaps that will reveal all your secrets to me

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Zoya posted:

instead of "expanding on this soon" you're just still talking about capnandy

Yeah this is a valid point

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

CapnAndy posted:

Well then, good thing you’ve got me now. First thing I said was “I’m here to help”, and I meant it.

Now can someone please explain to me why Cube is so locked onto JS?

No, not really. He vaguely hinted hat there was result on JS but sort of walked that back later in an awkward way (did he explain that better later after he was asked about it? I may have missed it, it’s 2 am local time and I just woke up and I’m a little cloudy at the moment). I haven’t seen a cogent reason for the suspicion anyway

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

CubicalSucrose posted:

1) Point me to three good JS posts across the whole game.
2) Why would JS, as VT, end D2 16th in postcount?

Cube seems focused on this “JS didn’t post more” as part of the crux of his suspicion today, but that also seems a bit at odds with the fact that JS still seemed to attempt to dream which does imply he is either VT or had a role not really worth his time. So I’m not sure what cube is thinking as to what JS’s scum motivation is behind this course of action other than it doesn’t line up with “perfect” town play

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Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Ugh I thought Sandwolf was here but he’s not, guess I can stop going down the “sandwolf got real quiet today” path

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