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Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
all those secret lairs and gadgets and flying hovercarriers and henchmen healthcare plans gotta cost a lot of money. who's funding COBRA and where'd they get all that money from?

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Ice Train
Nov 17, 2012

Orca lady?
Well, in the comic, Cobra Commander ran serval companies as fronts and as a means to generate funds for COBRA. Also, Destro and The Baroness were old money aristocrats with the former also basically owning Boeing.

ThingOne
Jul 30, 2011



Would you like some tofu?


Cobra commander was basically Richard DeVos

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

David D. Davidson posted:

Well, in the comic, Cobra Commander ran serval companies as fronts and as a means to generate funds for COBRA. Also, Destro and The Baroness were old money aristocrats with the former also basically owning Boeing.

I imagine the front companies also explain where they get a bunch of their gadgets from too

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

ThingOne posted:

Cobra commander was basically Richard DeVos


lol this is great, i love how the guys facing the crowd look like bikers/pro-wrestlers

Buttchocks
Oct 21, 2020

No, I like my hat, thanks.
Cobracoin

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT
Reagan funded COBRA in the 80's to undermine the Soviets, it's in the credits of Rocky II

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

David D. Davidson posted:

Well, in the comic, Cobra Commander ran serval companies as fronts and as a means to generate funds for COBRA. Also, Destro and The Baroness were old money aristocrats with the former also basically owning Boeing.

The IDW comics also have them running their own snake-themed Scientology riff, which both draws in a lot of money and is an incredibly effective intelligence gathering operation.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

I just assume they have a broad base of popular support somewhere offscreen.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

lol this is great, i love how the guys facing the crowd look like bikers/pro-wrestlers

Those are the Dreadnoks, I think. There's some crossover given Sergeant Slaughter.

I love how COBRA is a big-tent organisation of villainy. One comic focusing on the origins of Croc Master is fun, where he's basically the ultimate Florida Man from a long line of Florida Men, and Tomax tries to recruit him by saying they've been focusing too much on other forms of terrorism and want to branch out into ecoterrorism. (Crystal Ball pushes him aside and just says that COBRA will let him keep all the carnivorous aquatic reptiles he wants and kill lots of people)

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






COBRA as a giant Reaganomics ponzi scheme/supervillains' The Americans works so well, I can't even believe it.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
Cobra Commander's original origin story has him start out as a door to door salesman. I think that version flat out has him start a pyramid scheme that grows so successful it attracts the attention of terrorists, arms dealers and major corporations, they all realise they want pretty much the same thing and no one can tell exactly when it snowballed into a supervillain group.

Though the cartoon has Cobra Commander actually be an exile from an ancient civilization of biotech lizard people waiting for their moment to take back the planet from upstart humanity. Of course, there's possibly been more than one Cobra Commander.

boo boo bear
Oct 1, 2009

I'm COMPLETELY OBSESSED with SEXY EGGS
destro was an arms trafficker for the cia

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

I always imagined the employee onboarding process at COBRA would be a good one.

Meet with HR, fill out a few forms, watch some videos, pledge your oath to COBRA.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Colostomy Bag posted:

I always imagined the employee onboarding process at COBRA would be a good one.

Meet with HR, fill out a few forms, watch some videos, pledge your oath to COBRA.

Depending on the division there's also some brainwashing, a bunch of drugs, and/or orientation for which of their pet psychos you're the latest expendable intern for and no it's not going to be the Baroness

Ice Train
Nov 17, 2012

Orca lady?
There's also the live action movies that should be discussed.

So in Rise of Cobra, Duke and The Baroness were old flames. She also had a younger brother, and he and Duke were buddies. Now, on an operation, the younger brother apparently died, which led to Duke and Baroness breaking up. Now, at the beginning of the movie, the two former lover reunites, and Duke is shocked to discover that she's working for the baddies and has shacked up with Destro.

Now at the same time she's also married to one old money aristocrat, but this is part of a black widow scheme and she plans to kill him so Destro can use his money to fun his warmongering schemes.


So anyways at the end of the film, it's revealed that Destro's masked, raspy voiced lead scientist is The Baroness's brother, who actually survived the explosion. Also he's Cobra Commander. But more importantly, the reason The Baroness turned evil is because he kidnapped her and used the film's maguffin nanomachines to brainwash her into hooking up with Destro to secure finding and support for his own ambitions.


So TL;DR, in the film Cobra is funded by Cobra Commander whoring out The Baroness, his own SISTER, to Destro for funding and support, who in turn, whores her out for funding and support.



Yeah in hindsight, the films have not held up well.

Ice Train fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Aug 14, 2024

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
Yes but you say that like it's not an extremely COBRA thing to do.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

David D. Davidson posted:

Yeah in hindsight, the films have not held up well.

In hindsight? In the first movie, they forgot that ice floats.

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Yes but you say that like it's not an extremely COBRA thing to do.

this tbh.

Did they unbrainwash Baroness and have her become Lady Jaye by the end of the movie or something? That seems like a very 00s Movie thing to do.

Ice Train
Nov 17, 2012

Orca lady?
No, she got unbrainwashed and thrown in prison, where they forgot about her for the sequel.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Madurai posted:

In hindsight? In the first movie, they forgot that ice floats.

It's kinda wild how the finale is basically Star Wars but with submarines instead of spaceships. That said, that's not really a problem with it being y'know, GI Joe. Being dumb as hell in a fun way is perfectly fitting whether it's on purpose or not.

I've not heard great things about the sequel including that it was blatantly reshot because one of the actors had his career take off mid-production, and they killed off almost the entire original cast in the opening. Though I have seen the mountain climbing ninja chase sequence with Snake Eyes that kicks rear end.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

ThingOne posted:

Cobra commander was basically Richard DeVos


Looks more like the RNC to me op.

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!
the current comic series has Cobra Commander cashing in on Energon based technology and Destro freaking out as he tries to figure out where he got that poo poo from.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
like, the transformers energy cube stuff? that energon?

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

like, the transformers energy cube stuff? that energon?

Yeah, outside of obvious like GI Joe/Transformers team up comics they have GI Joe and Transformers stuff crossover a bit like that semi-regularly even in the old cartoon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3_CUO-Nnvk

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

like, the transformers energy cube stuff? that energon?

the very same.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Cobra Commander's original origin story has him start out as a door to door salesman. I think that version flat out has him start a pyramid scheme that grows so successful it attracts the attention of terrorists, arms dealers and major corporations, they all realise they want pretty much the same thing and no one can tell exactly when it snowballed into a supervillain group.

Though the cartoon has Cobra Commander actually be an exile from an ancient civilization of biotech lizard people waiting for their moment to take back the planet from upstart humanity. Of course, there's possibly been more than one Cobra Commander.

He was once a man!

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kha63bVVlUM

TuxedoOrca
Feb 6, 2024

Harvesting Tiberium.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

TuxedoOrca posted:

Harvesting Tiberium.

I've kept saying that Command and Conquer absolutely started as GI Joe with the serial numbers filed off.

ed: Like hell, the way Energon is depicted half the time even maps pretty drat well to Tiberium come to think of it, complete with the aliens who come after the stuff.

Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Aug 23, 2024

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
yeah i remember watching at least one gi joe intro on youtube and thinking “dang this looks a lot like a C&C battle”

Twenty Four
Dec 21, 2008


Cobra Commander was just a regular poor guy but he put $5 on his favorite number at a roulette table, won the 35:1 payout, went all in like 6 or 7 times in a row and it kept hitting until he won billions of dollars, and was now free to go about his evil ways.

Chemtrailologist
Jul 8, 2007


The COBRA mink ranch is a likely source of revenue.

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths
Proximity.


Chemtrailologist posted:



The COBRA mink ranch is a likely source of revenue.

god I love those file cards :allears:

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Chemtrailologist posted:



The COBRA mink ranch is a likely source of revenue.

Amazing.

Hey kids, this is how you don't pay taxes!

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Gravitas Shortfall posted:

god I love those file cards :allears:

Everything had them back then and they rule, I kept all the card backs from my action figures when I was a kid and they're all in a big box in in my room waiting to be scanned someday.

Linux Pirate
Apr 21, 2012


I think Cobra Commander was a car salesmen or something.

Ice Train
Nov 17, 2012

Orca lady?
Not just a car salesman, but a used car salesman. He even jokes that being a suppervillain is a more honest profession.

Assessor of Maat
Nov 20, 2019

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

like, the transformers energy cube stuff? that energon?

a combination with some very fine results

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
Destro looking pretty pimp there, complete with a resume that sounds like rap lyrics.

I love that COBRA has a teleporter but it sucks and they can rarely ever get it to work properly, and it usually has some wild side effects even when it does. The IDW comics had a whole arc with it where they pulled off all kinds of crazy poo poo including establishing a moonbase, and when the Joes destroyed the M.A.S.S. device at the end of it the entire staff were left stranded, and had bulldozed a bunch of moon dust into a giant 'HELP'. It doesn't come up again until way later in a big crossover event when Dr X has taken over the place (with access to more reliable Cybertronian space bridges) and it's full of dessicated COBRA corpses.

Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Sep 14, 2024

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