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josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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iirc in the behind the scenes for rots lucas talks about cutting basically the first half of the early drafts for that film, stuff that dealt with the dangling threads from aotc, because going through it all meant devoting lots of this film to procedural matters from the last film. presumably at some point he also thought "eh, a tv show can deal with it"

all the elements are there in aotc anyway. sifo-dyas was Dooku or influenced by Dooku, who was still a Jedi st the time but had started calling himself Tyranus and also presumably tampered with the archives.

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Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!
i always thought Sifo Dyas was supposed to be a Mad Gab of Sidious and it was Palpatine the whole time.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Sally posted:

i always thought Sifo Dyas was supposed to be a Mad Gab of Sidious and it was Palpatine the whole time.

believe lucas also vacillated over this; also he was originally "sido-dyas" in case you thought it wasn't on the nose enough

josh04 fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Sep 18, 2024

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!
lmao of course. george you mad man

Robot Style
Jul 5, 2009

Cease to Hope posted:

it's really the worst part of the worst prequel, and i'm curious how the creative process led to that or why people think that's fine or else not true.

For whatever reason, Lucas wanted Obi-Wan to have a sort of film noir detective sideplot in the movie, so he added the whole Sifo-Dyas / clone mystery. It may have been partially inspired by Alec Guinness' investigation-focused framing narrative from Doctor Zhivago, since that movie also influenced Lucas' depiction of Anakin and Padme's romance (so much so that he specifically asked Drew Struzan to make Attack of the Clones' poster mimic Zhivago's).

In the commentary track for Attack of the Clones, Lucas mentions that the mystery of Sifo-Dyas is something that will be resolved in the next movie... and then in the commentary track for the next movie he says that he decided to leave it for the Expanded Universe to resolve instead.

Based on what's said in the movie's making-of book, Episode III seems to have been a really frustrating movie to work on, because Lucas took a really long time to actually write the script. They were nine months into pre-production and he was still having trouble figuring out what was actually going to be in the movie because he'd realized that he had too many dangling threads on either side of the movie for everything to line up. The movie's producer had to start bringing random department heads to unrelated meetings in order to pressure Lucas into just writing the script because there were people who were on the clock and waiting for him to do his job.

So the Sifo-Dyas thing was just one of those things that he just had to drop in order for the movie to actually get made on time.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
drat that is a good-rear end explanation of how that happened, thank you

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
That explains a lot about the prequels too.

Presto
Nov 22, 2002

Keep calm and Harry on.
There's that one behind-the-scenes clip where George goes "God help me, they're already building sets! I gotta finish the script."

TuxedoOrca
Feb 6, 2024

Presto posted:

There's that one behind-the-scenes clip where George goes "God help me, they're already building sets! I gotta finish the script."

George Costanza moment.

Robot Style
Jul 5, 2009

Chewie doesn't actually owe Han a life debt, a judge just sentenced him to be Han's butler.

BiggestBatman
Aug 23, 2018
Prequels good

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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BiggestBatman posted:

Prequels good

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004

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BiggestBatman posted:

Prequels [s]good[/]

At least make good memes

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.
The prequels are weird, which is better than good.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
wouldn't the way to bring the movies full circle be for rey to chuck the blue lightsaber into watto's scrapheap?

midnight77
Mar 22, 2024
star...wars?

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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midnight77 posted:

star...wars?

huge if true

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012

Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.




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josh04 posted:

huge if true

Eh, it’s far, far away

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.

Cease to Hope posted:

wouldn't the way to bring the movies full circle be for rey to chuck the blue lightsaber into watto's scrapheap?

Darth Vader receives a holographic phone call from one of the pit droids informing him that Watto has died. He sits in his regeneration tank all day and doesn't talk to anybody.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
rey buries the blue lightsaber point-first into watto's eyesocket

Robot Style
Jul 5, 2009

Watto's Wookiepedia page posted:

During his exile on Tatooine after Order 66, Obi-Wan Kenobi purchased a humidifier from Watto at an inflated price.

Riveting stuff.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Watto's Wookiepedia would be a great name for it.

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

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Robot Style posted:

Riveting stuff.

Neither of them know each other. They have no idea how connected they are.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
thus always to slavers

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

FunkyAl posted:

Darth Vader receives a holographic phone call from one of the pit droids informing him that Watto has died. He sits in his regeneration tank all day and doesn't talk to anybody.

thanks for spoiling andor, jerk

(it's good)

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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is skelton crew a prequel?

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

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Cease to Hope posted:

thanks for spoiling andor, jerk

(it's good)

I did?

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

it is a joke

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.

Cease to Hope posted:

it is a joke

How did you get this number?

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
anyway prequel squared is positive, meaning the value of prequel is therefore negative

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Cease to Hope posted:

anyway prequel squared is positive, meaning the value of prequel is therefore negative

you may want to rerun the maths on this one

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
no, it's accurate

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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anything squared is positive

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

josh04 posted:

anything squared is positive

exactly, a negative squared is positive

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
also, imaginary values square to a negative, and these are all made up stories

George
Nov 27, 2004

No love for your made-up things.
andor is the only good star wars prequel

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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andor, like all star wars prequels, is good

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Cease to Hope posted:

also, imaginary values square to a negative, and these are all made up stories

of the prequels, only 'revenge of the sith' has an imaginary component. conversely, both 'empire' and 'jedi' are imaginary.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
do you think the star wars movies are real

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josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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numerically, some of them

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