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pseudodragon posted:Most goals without a PPG? He also has 3 SHG so he's not even at 35 Evens. Ok this makes a lot more sense. To have 35 goals. 32 even strength, 3 shorthanded, zero on the PP, feels like it could be a NHL record. A very obscure one.
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Nurse got one game. Also Montreal just lost to Chicago. What makes anyone think they won't lose to an AHL team?
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Ok this makes a lot more sense. To have 35 goals. 32 even strength, 3 shorthanded, zero on the PP, feels like it could be a NHL record. A very obscure one. Yeah sorry dunno why I typed it that way, just a fun stat because usually somebody capable of 30+ goals would see a lot of powerplay time
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Looks like every series is locked in except WSH vs. MTL/CBJ.
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Jhet posted:Good point, I misread that. Sitting him for just the 1 game that doesn't matter doesn't really send a good message right before playing the same team in the playoffs. It sends exactly the message the league office means to send: headhunting is cool and good, please continue doing it.
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ThinkTank posted:I hate that I have to root for the rat bag Kings for the fourth year in a row knowing full well they'll let me down again.
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Mind_Taker posted:Looks like every series is locked in except WSH vs. MTL/CBJ. Yep. Montreal will clinch the second wild card spot if they earn at least a single point tomorrow against Carolina. If Montreal loses in regulation, Columbus would need a regulation win against the New York Islanders on Thursday to take it - an overtime or shootout win would be insufficient as that would put them even on points and regulation wins but Montreal owns the second tiebreaker (ROW) against them.
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Eric the Mauve posted:It sends exactly the message the league office means to send: headhunting is cool and good, please continue doing it. Remember when Bennett just straight-up punched Marchand in the head, injuring him, with no discipline whatsoever?
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Going to bang my homer drum for a minute here. After tonight, David Pastrnak ends the season with 106 points. It's the third season in a row he's hit 100+ points, the only other two Bruins to ever do that in franchise history are Orr and Esposito. He's tied with Draisaitl for 3rd most in the NHL, but Draisaitl theoretically might play again and get a point or two. Pasta's still 6 ahead of Marner, who would have to have a hell of a final game to match Pasta's total (Mitch is at 100). So Pastrnak most likely ends up, at worst, 4th overall in NHL scoring, on the team that is currently 4th from the bottom in the standings. Seems pretty impressive to me! Sidney Crosby is the only other player on one of the bottom-10 teams of the league to be a top scorer, and he's currently 11th, at 89 points. 3rd best is Travis Konecny, with 75 points. I know that people are sick of Bruins players getting accolades and all that, and I don't for a second believe he is actually the MVP (I think it's Hellebuyck, personally) but for Pasta to score that much, with the next best Bruin having all of 57 points, feels like a MVP caliber season to me. There has always been (unfairly, in my opinion) this question around Pastrnak: "Can he do it without Bergeron? Can he do it without Marchand?" and the answer is, unequivocally, yeah he can do it insanely well.
Jamwad Hilder fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Apr 16, 2025 |
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St. Louis and Minnesota clinched.
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Koopa Kid posted:Remember when Bennett just straight-up punched Marchand in the head, injuring him, with no discipline whatsoever? Well, it was Marchand.....
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Jamwad Hilder posted:There has always been (unfairly, in my opinion) this question around Pastrnak: "Can he do it without Bergeron? Can he do it without Marchand?" and the answer is, unequivocally, yeah he can do it insanely well. What kinda goober asked that question? It was always plain as day how good Pastrnak was/is imo. He's insanely good. If anything the other two benefitted more from playing with him than vice versa.
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Ginette Reno posted:What kinda goober asked that question? It was always plain as day how good Pastrnak was/is imo. He's insanely good. If anything the other two benefitted more from playing with him than vice versa. You would not believe how many dumb Bruins fans there are on the larger internet. Well you probably would because Boston fans are some of the worst casual fans in sports. I'm not going to pretend I'm the smartest guy in the world, but the Boston media writ large, and a lot of the 60 IQ fanbase, has had doubts for years that Pasta can be The Guy, for this team. Which is obviously stupid. But it's dogged him for the past few years.
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Koopa Kid posted:Remember when Bennett just straight-up punched Marchand in the head, injuring him, with no discipline whatsoever? I remember a few times players got away with mugging Theo Fleury because Brian Burke's default position was "yeah, we think he's an annoying little rear end in a top hat too"
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Jamwad Hilder posted:You would not believe how many dumb Bruins fans there are Actually, i would believe this.
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Koopa Kid posted:Remember when Bennett just straight-up punched Marchand in the head, injuring him, with no discipline whatsoever? e: And to the point, I always forget which poster it was who pointed out that over a few years Tampa and Florida quietly usurped Boston as the dirtiest two teams in the league who had mastered the art of cheap shots and gamesmanship in that time, it is an immense relief Toronto won't have to play them yet/if ever. At least Brady will kill the Leafs in head-on collisions during play rather than attempt to injure between plays tomanton fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Apr 16, 2025 |
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The Blues clinched tonight, and I think their path to the playoffs this year illustrates just how loving hard it is to make up ground in the standings late in the season in the NHL, and how the standings are specifically engineered to sell hope to fans of teams that really don't have a shot. The Blues' 12-game winning streak started on 3/15, and going into that game they were only two points behind the Flames with one more game played. Doesn't seem too insurmountable, right? Well, they are probably going to end up needing every win in that 12-game streak, as depending on the results of Calgary's last game, they may make it in on tiebreakers alone, despite a torrid 13-2-1 stretch to end the season. That little 0-2-1 wobble following the streak nearly ended their season, and if the Flames could have closed the Ducks out last week, there's a decent chance it would have. Just goes to show that the margin of error is basically zero even if it doesn't appear there's much daylight between a team on the outside and a playoff berth. It will be pretty funny if the reason the Flames missed is ultimately their blown lead to the Ducks last Wednesday (two goals in eight seconds with less than four minutes left in the 3rd, lol) edit: had my day wrong Chuch fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Apr 16, 2025 |
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Go Blues. gently caress the Jets.
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Blues are about to experience one of the sweepiest sweeps that's ever swept. That 12-game streak included only 2 games against solidly playoff teams (a home-and-home against the Avs). And 3 games against bubble teams. That rest were against teams that missed the playoffs in January or earlier.
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Something about this year just feels different.
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This is going to come back and bite me in the rear end, but Ottawa feels a lot more like those early-2000s Leafs teams this year, and the Leafs feel a lot more like those early-2000s Sens teams. A generally soft highly-skilled team against a gritty forechecking team.
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CBJSprague24 posted:St. Louis and Minnesota clinched. Kinda fun they let Fleury play OT, then he makes 5(!) saves and gets the win. quote:"I feel lucky to have another chance to play in front of them. Get a win, not give up seven goals -- that was nice too," Fleury said. "Hopefully, they remember that time." He seems so cool
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Someone on a Caps blog posted that with Boston’s loss the Caps now have the 36th pick in the upcoming draft. Essentially the Caps traded Orlov, Hathaway and Gustafsson for Sandin, Mateiko and whatever this pick turns into. Miss Orlov and Hath though, but it was the correct move to do.
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Thanks to the wonders of the NHL's playoff system the 19th overall team in the league (Montreal or Columbus) will make the playoffs while the 15th overall (Calgary) will miss.
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ThinkTank posted:Thanks to the wonders of the NHL's playoff system the 19th overall team in the league (Montreal or Columbus) will make the playoffs while the 15th overall (Calgary) will miss. Pretty sure that helps the Habs Monahan 1st with the never ending conditions too right? Love to see it
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Jamwad Hilder posted:You would not believe how many dumb Bruins fans there are on the larger internet. Well you probably would because Boston fans are some of the worst casual fans in sports. I'm not going to pretend I'm the smartest guy in the world, but the Boston media writ large, and a lot of the 60 IQ fanbase, has had doubts for years that Pasta can be The Guy, for this team. Which is obviously stupid. But it's dogged him for the past few years. every fan base is stupid on the internet, but I live in the Boston area and the ongoing meltdowns and total delusion about the team are just comical, especially looking in as a Red Wings fan (a team in a long, protracted rebuild with no superstar). This franchise is insanely lucky to be in a position where a retool is even a possibility and it's funny seeing everyone call for the heads of the front office when the team hasn't had a first round pick in a good position since McAvoy and they still found some decent players and when they did everything right this trade deadline to have a chance to come out of this in a couple years. Overpriced FA signings aside, it's fine, they not only made the Bruins last three years longer than they should have but had a historic winning season. If you're a brand new GM coming into this situation, the easy move is to go full tear-down, trade Pastrnak at the height of his value, and get three consecutive lottery picks. BRAKE FOR MOOSE fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Apr 16, 2025 |
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Jets re-sign Iaffallo for 3 by 3.66 mil. Chevy has done a pretty good job of trading for good utility guys and then keeping them (Neiderreitter, Namestnikov, Demelo). Probably necessitated by the difficulty of getting free agents, but also probably a better way to build a team as long as you can get high end talent in the draft
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ThinkTank posted:Thanks to the wonders of the NHL's playoff system the 19th overall team in the league (Montreal or Columbus) will make the playoffs while the 15th overall (Calgary) will miss. You keep saying this, but the non-joke Western Conference teams have gained a collective +48 points from playing the three worst teams in the league. (The difference between those 3 teams and the worst team in the East.) That's 3.7 points per team. Taking that into account, the Flames would still be ahead of the Habs, but it would be 16th vs 17th, not 15th vs 19th. With that adjustment, the Caps would have more points than the Jets. The Leafs would have more points than Vegas. Etc. It makes no sense to complain that the West is "better" based on points when 20% of the conference is absolute trash, and MUCH worse than the worst teams in the East.
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Unless someone thinks the schedule should be perfectly balanced, none of that matters and is absolute conjecture.
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regardless of hard conference vs easy conference or whatever, when you're talking teams with 30 regulation wins and a negative goal differential we are heavily into "who gives a gently caress" territory
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Unless someone thinks the schedule should be perfectly balanced, none of that matters and is absolute conjecture. Some might suggest it’s a coping mechanism.
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"Waah, we played 20% of our schedule against AHL teams and finished with 3 more points than you, we should be ranked higher, no fair." Like you say, as long as we're having conferences in the first place, comparing teams cross-conference is just conjecture. But here's some non-conjecture: This year, the flames got 18 points in games against those bottom-3 teams. So if the complaint is that the Flames are 5 points up on the Habs and still missing the playoffs, I think you have your entire explanation right there. The Flames are a 40-41 team, not even breaking .500. That includes going 9-1 against those basement-dwellers. So they are 31-40 against teams that don't completely suck poo poo. The flames are a bad team! They shouldn't be in the playoffs!
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You also have poo poo like Boston actively tanking starting at the deadline or Florida throwing games to try to avoid Tampa, not all teams are trying to be 100% competitive at all times even if they have been previously
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Framing it as an NHL problem is weird, too. All the major North American sports leagues have playoff systems like this; it's just a function of having two conferences/leagues. Nobody is weeping for the Calgary Flames, or teams in similar situations in other leagues. They're just fodder for the 1 seeds anyways.
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Also what is the evidence that good Western teams have their points inflated by playing more against the bad teams vs bad Western teams have their points deflated by playing more against the good teams?
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The Flames also have a -18 goal diff. and have scored the third fewest goals in the league, it’s not like they really deserve a spot over MTL/CBJ. They mostly just picked up a bunch more loser points to get to their standings position.
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ThinkTank posted:Thanks to the wonders of the NHL's playoff system the 19th overall team in the league (Montreal or Columbus) will make the playoffs while the 15th overall (Calgary) will miss. Try winning more games.
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Or not have San Jose, Chicago and Anaheim in your conference
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The fraudulent Eastern teams would get handily wiped by the dregs of the West and have even lower point totals.
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