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Helluva
Feb 7, 2011

Widdershins!


Anything by Gaspar Noé.

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Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.


Justin Godscock posted:

Credit where it's due but Gallo went back and re-edited it making it a better film and Ebert acknowledged that.

Was the blowjob scene left in?

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012
Here's a question to you: Why haven't you thread-banned me yet? It's clear you and probably half the thread want me to fuck off. Hell, I keep telling myself to just ignore the thread, but I still feel compelled to check it every day to see what people are talking about.
I can think of a lot of films that I've read summaries, and know I'd regret seeing (The Coffee Table, In a Glass Cage, Last House on Dead End Street)

In terms of things that I have seen, a few years ago I saw The Girl Next Door, which is adapted from a novel by Jack Ketchum, which was based on the murder of Sylvia Likens. I don't really regret watching it, and I wouldn't call it a bad film (though you can tell it didn't have a huge budget, and I think it was direct-to-video production), but it's not something I'd recommend lightly, because it gets very uncomfortable, and very brutal.

There's some other films I could name, but I think it would start verging out of 'films you'll regret watching' and into 'films that get very graphic, disturbing, brutal, etc.'

Beastie posted:

I regret watching Black Swan. I finally got around to watching it last month and had I not watched it with my girlfriend I would have turned it off.

Great cast but the actual movie was just so loving stupid. It wasn't a particularly interesting or new story and having it set up around a high society ballet performance really took me out of it. I think the ending was pretty funny though.

Black Swan is interesting because there's a couple scenes in it that are lifted from Satoshi Kon's Perfect Blue (a really good film, though it also gets rough at points). Supposedly, the reason why is because Aronofsky had bought the rights to produce a live-action adaptation of Perfect Blue, but that wasn't actually true (an old blog post by Satoshi Kon where he met with Arnofsky)

THE BAR posted:

Low hanging fruit, but the Warcraft movie was too detailed for newcomers to understand what was going on, and had its details so wrong it pissed off anyone who was a fan of the original two games.

I don't know what's more bizarre about that film: the fact that it was directed by Duncan Jones (the son of David Bowie) or that they got Glenn Close for a short, uncredited role.

IrvingWashington
Dec 9, 2007

Shabbat Shalom
Clapping Larry

exquisite tea posted:

I was watching some Golden Era movies from the 50s and 60s for some research I was doing and one thing that really jumps out at you is how much these leading ladies get utterly manhandled all the time. Even in lighthearted comedies these poor women are constantly getting shaken about by the shoulders, roughly spun around in circles, their arms practically ripped out of their sockets by men. And all the while they have to pretend it's the most romantic thing that's ever happened to them!

My whole family shrinks in crunchy pain for Donna Reed's neck every Christmas

The best movie I've seen that I can't recommend to anyone is Lars von Trier's Antichrist. I gave it a watch without knowing anything about it because I was interested to see what came next after Dogme 95.

Compelling, beautiful, and a completely misanthropic shot of pure, hopeless depression for me. I'll never watch it again, and I think about watching it again at least once a month.

I didn't need to see it, and I don't think it did me much good either. It's a long stint of therapy with zero catharsis, and I'd already reached that conclusion about my own trauma. I've considered recommending it to people on the basis of it being a fantastic representation of the deepest, darkest state of mind I've experienced, but I don't want to hurt people like that either.

It's incredible, I learned nothing, I felt awful for at least 6 months after watching it, don't watch it, please. And at least not based on anything I've said about it.

Astrochicken
Aug 13, 2007

Rendezvous on Champs-Elysees Leave Paris in the morning with T-E-E
this is my favorite Lars von trier film

https://youtu.be/yByP88jUQH4?si=4AgFzSgHgILSWxTW

Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.


IrvingWashington posted:

My whole family shrinks in crunchy pain for Donna Reed's neck every Christmas

The best movie I've seen that I can't recommend to anyone is Lars von Trier's Antichrist. I gave it a watch without knowing anything about it because I was interested to see what came next after Dogme 95.

Compelling, beautiful, and a completely misanthropic shot of pure, hopeless depression for me. I'll never watch it again, and I think about watching it again at least once a month.

I didn't need to see it, and I don't think it did me much good either. It's a long stint of therapy with zero catharsis, and I'd already reached that conclusion about my own trauma. I've considered recommending it to people on the basis of it being a fantastic representation of the deepest, darkest state of mind I've experienced, but I don't want to hurt people like that either.

It's incredible, I learned nothing, I felt awful for at least 6 months after watching it, don't watch it, please. And at least not based on anything I've said about it.

The only time I've rewatched Antichrist was on election night 2020 because I figured it would give me less anxiety.

Pipski
Apr 18, 2004

Srpski Film. Truly loving bleak.
Der Todesking. Less shocking than ^^ but conjures a kind of miasma of depression.
They're both accomplished films, but I'm in no kind of rush to watch them again.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



I've watched a shitload of terrible movies. Among those I wouldn't recommend to anyone under any circumstances:

Caligula is a (bad) porno that disguises itself with a fig leaf of 'historical drama' because it's "about" Caligula. A completely disgusting film that even Malcolm McDowell chewing scenery can't save.

Myra Breckenridge. Perhaps the first (?) depiction of a transgender person in a Hollywood movie. That might be the only thing the movie has going for it other than Raquel Welch. I think there are supposed to be psychosexual themes happening, but whatever Serious Point they're trying to make is lost in an avalanche of bullshit.

Black Devil Doll From Hell. A doll comes alive and forcefully has its way with a woman. The less is said about this film the better.

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

If I ever want to feel very sad, Grave of the Fireflies is my jam.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

Caligula is a (bad) porno that disguises itself with a fig leaf of 'historical drama' because it's "about" Caligula. A completely disgusting film that even Malcolm McDowell chewing scenery can't save.

I heard moderately good things about Caligula: The Ultimate Cut, but less that it turns it into a good movie, more that it is no longer one of the worst ever made.

Sir Mat of Dickie
Jul 19, 2012

Siddhartha Gautama, the Buddha, drew a circle with a piece of red chalk and said: “When men, even unknowingly, are to meet one day, whatever may befall each, whatever their diverging paths, on the said day, they will inevitably come together in the red circle."

fr0id posted:

Threads (1984)

The movie is about the prelude, enough to care about the characters, then aftermath of a small city in the UK after the Cold War turned hot and the uk was hit by nuclear bombs.

The ending is a woman in the post fallout countryside giving birth to a stillborn irradiated baby and then wailing into the camera as the movie ends.

Just a completely depressing movie about a still very on the table potential future.

Edit: I think that the baby was also the result of a rape

Common joke, but the real horror of the film is that they live in England. But seriously, that film is forever seared into my mind; I saw it for the first time recently. Apparently, a lot of experts at the time pooh-poohed it as unrealistic about the effects of the bomb, etc., (maybe they were even right; people still argue about exactly how a nuclear winter would play out, and I hope those debates remain purely scholarly), but it clearly had an impact on the general public.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



SCheeseman posted:

If I ever want to feel very sad, Grave of the Fireflies is my jam.

I heard moderately good things about Caligula: The Ultimate Cut, but less that it turns it into a good movie, more that it is no longer one of the worst ever made.

It's hard to call it the worst ever made when Black Devil Doll exists, but it's not a movie I would watch a second time for sure. I'm really surprised they bothered to recut/remake that film.

Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007
Black Devil Doll was actually supposed to be a segment of the directors anthology film Tales From the Quadead Zone, but he thought it was too good not to let it stand on its own. As a result the Quadead Zone only has 3 stories.

The Saviour
Feb 19, 2006

I came to post snowtown.

I actually read a review in the guardian and thought it would be an interesting true crime style film but boy did I get it wrong.

The film is wonderfully made, written, and directed, but the creeping tone of the film and the horrid torture scenes have never left me.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Oh hey, Snowtown! Probably the only thing a lot of people know Adelaide for!

I, Butthole
Jun 30, 2007

Begin the operations of the gas chambers, gas schools, gas universities, gas libraries, gas museums, gas dance halls, and gas threads, etcetera.
I DEMAND IT
Snowtown was a barrel of laughs, dunno what y'all are talking about

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

I, Butthole posted:

Snowtown was a barrel of laughs

grim lol

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Oh hey, Snowtown! Probably the only thing a lot of people know Adelaide for!

One thing that Snowtown is great at is showing how ugly regular people can be, both inside and out. Another great movie in that regard and a good movie for this thread is The Golden Glove. It's gross and depressing and really hits you over the head with the hopelesness of everyone.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Shoulda called it Salisbury Mistakes


(Stolen from the last podcast on the left episode which I just listened too oddly enough)

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

I felt bad after watching Hagazussa, a movie about a woman who is shunned as a suspected witch, because she eats her own baby

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Drunkboxer posted:

Black Devil Doll was actually supposed to be a segment of the directors anthology film Tales From the Quadead Zone, but he thought it was too good not to let it stand on its own. As a result the Quadead Zone only has 3 stories.

TALES FROM THE QUADEAD ZONE is so ill.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Grevling posted:

I felt bad after watching Hagazussa, a movie about a woman who is shunned as a suspected witch, because she eats her own baby

I think it’s fair they suspected her as a witch but I can’t get mad at someone for dealing with their hunger!

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Funny Games. Not a 'bad' movie but it might as well be because it's an unpleasant viewing experience.

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
Ichi the Killer. Watched it in a giant theatre at a movie festival in the early 2000s. People were leaving constantly throughout the movie, and the girl in the seat next to me was crying through the whole movie (no, she was not my date).

Cat Census
Nov 6, 2024

by Fluffdaddy

Max Wilco posted:

the coffee table

This is so stupid, but did anyone else watch this and get constantly taken out like some kind of cinemasins crazy man because the physical event of the accident didn't seem to quite make sense physically as they showed all the effects of it?

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Low hanging fruit but I finally got around to watching the Hobbit trilogy, extended editions. I had never bothered to watch them. The first two were meh, but it had been awhile since I watched LotR so it felt good to be back in the world.

5 Armies was so loving bad though. I turned it off with an hour left. The 45 minute CGI fuckfest that was the battle is what did it to me.

Crumps Brother
Sep 5, 2007

-G-
Get Equipped with
Ground Game

Beastie posted:

Low hanging fruit but I finally got around to watching the Hobbit trilogy, extended editions. I had never bothered to watch them. The first two were meh, but it had been awhile since I watched LotR so it felt good to be back in the world.

5 Armies was so loving bad though. I turned it off with an hour left. The 45 minute CGI fuckfest that was the battle is what did it to me.
I watched the M4 Book edit for the Hobbit trilogy maybe a couple/few months ago. I feel like that's a really great way to go for anyone that wanted to catch them for the first time or again.

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

Teen suicide is out this year
and homicide is a
much healthier
therapeutic expression.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

Funny Games. Not a 'bad' movie but it might as well be because it's an unpleasant viewing experience.

I refuse to see the American remake not for any cinephile reasons but purely on the principle that "Fun and Games" was CLEARLY how that title should've been localized.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

I refuse to see the American remake not for any cinephile reasons but purely on the principle that "Fun and Games" was CLEARLY how that title should've been localized.

it's shot for shot anyway, no real need to watch it

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

I refuse to see the American remake not for any cinephile reasons but purely on the principle that "Fun and Games" was CLEARLY how that title should've been localized.
I've always wondered about this.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

R. Guyovich posted:

it's shot for shot anyway, no real need to watch it

Naomi Watts, Tim Roth, Michael Pitt, and Brady Corbet are all really great in it.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
Michael Pitt huh, how bout that guy. What a flameout.

CatstropheWaitress
Nov 26, 2017

I'm sure there's others, but one film I regret watching is Louise Linton's vanity project Me You Madness. Louise is the wife of Steven Mnuchin, the former U.S. Treasury secretary in the Trump Admin.

It's just really offensive as a work. Not in the shock or vulgar kind of way, but it's a film length exercise of watching someone with immeasurable wealth flaunt it. Louise plays the lead who captures some guy either by seduction or he's breaking in, can't recall. Her character is very rich and toys with him ala' American Psycho, but she's never not fully in charge.

It's self aware, but in a deranged way that reads like how The Rock has it in contracts that he can never lose. All the humor falls flat because she can't not be a badass in the movie's eye. Heck, they reveal towards the end that she's a psycho, but all her victims are actually bad guys so she's actually a good guy.

Soundtrack is basic as gently caress too, like what you'd hear strangers singing in college karaoke bars.

I love vanity films, truly, but it just feels gross when the person is actually gently caress-you rich and clearly self aggrandizing. It's just grim.

lonelylikezoidberg
Dec 19, 2007

SCheeseman posted:


I heard moderately good things about Caligula: The Ultimate Cut, but less that it turns it into a good movie, more that it is no longer one of the worst ever made.

I kinda dig Caligula, beyond the porno I think it captures the empty, unfulfilling hedonism and cruelty endemic to multi-generational autocracy.

I think the main problem is that the script is about how these people are contemptible and awful and we're all even worse for making compromises with power because deep down we want to get a taste of that brass ring.

The production of the movie is all "shut the gently caress up nerd look at the boat powered by blowjobs."

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

lonelylikezoidberg posted:

I kinda dig Caligula, beyond the porno I think it captures the empty, unfulfilling hedonism and cruelty endemic to multi-generational autocracy.

I think the main problem is that the script is about how these people are contemptible and awful and we're all even worse for making compromises with power because deep down we want to get a taste of that brass ring.

The production of the movie is all "shut the gently caress up nerd look at the boat powered by blowjobs."

Sounds a lot like the problem with war movies.

lonelylikezoidberg
Dec 19, 2007

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Sounds a lot like the problem with war movies.

Yes. Also, the porno parts of Caligula kick rear end, even if they don't work.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



^ To each his own, I guess. I sat through all of Caligula once, without riffs or anything like that. Once is plenty for me.

A friend warned me that he did not recommend I watch Street Trash. Naturally, his saying that meant that I had to see it.

My friend was right.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

original street trash or new street trash?

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

Street Trash was pretty bad. I'd watch just the scenes where the dude flushes himself when the toilet and when they play dick keep away and then dip. Way way way too much rape for a goofy goop movie.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

Famethrowa posted:

Street Trash was pretty bad. I'd watch just the scenes where the dude flushes himself when the toilet and when they play dick keep away and then dip. Way way way too much rape for a goofy goop movie.

I still have flashbacks of the fat guy tuba music during that scene

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F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



ruddiger posted:

original street trash or new street trash?

1987, so it must be the original.

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