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Nighthand
Nov 4, 2009

what horror the gas


Having Dess lose a bunch of her Majiks but not remembering which ones, setting up a recurring gag of her pulling a badass move only for nothing to happen (and a quest to recover them, either for her or for Ichi), could be a fun time. Also gives her room to mentor Ichi on how she caught them the first time around.

But that's fanfiction territory, I have no idea what direction this will actually go.

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Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

Xelkelvos posted:

I feel like the trial is probably something specific but trivial based on how he's hiding it so strongly. If it was difficult, he's probably have no problem with revealing it.

Also I assume it's something comedic and humiliating. To whom, idk.
Since it's the "World Hater" magic I wonder if the trial is something like "Make me feel love or happiness".

Also the World-Hater could always just bug out instead of there having to be something where Dess is defeated in some way.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Fabricated posted:

Since it's the "World Hater" magic I wonder if the trial is something like "Make me feel love or happiness".

From the previous Majicks, their capture requirement and their abilities don't really have much to do with each other so it can really be anything and more based on their personalities if anything.

So it could be something as innocuous as "Make him smile/laugh" or "Find out where his mole is" to something more absurd like "1v1 him in a sumo match" or "Make him say his name backwards three times"

Xelkelvos fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Jan 20, 2025

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
Desscaras losing a bunch of her majiks would put her on the same foot as Ichi, ie, having a bunch of overpowered abilities that are hard to use while slowly working to build up her bread-and-butter abilities, which might be fun.

Shinji2015
Aug 31, 2007
Keen on the hygiene and on the mission like a super technician.

Rand Brittain posted:

Desscaras losing a bunch of her majiks would put her on the same foot as Ichi, ie, having a bunch of overpowered abilities that are hard to use while slowly working to build up her bread-and-butter abilities, which might be fun.

Imagine if she had to go back to school along with Ichi to do so :unsmigghh:

where the red fern gropes
Aug 24, 2011


a cartoon duck posted:

women-repeller majik

im not a majik dude

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
If Desscaras was more willing to be hands on I could see the need to tune her down but from everything we have seen she is quite willing to let Ichi run wild with her being there to make sure nothing goes wrong. Long term yes there would be a reason to shake things up but at the start of the manga not so much.

SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

What's the matter?
Is there a problem?!
Desscaras being depowered would not be fun IMO. Her power is the key to her being everyone's favorite uber-talented badass. Having Kumugi being the weaker but knowledgeable witch learning along with Ichi is enough.

ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Alternatively, have her depowered, but have it not faze her cause she's really good at catching Magiks in her own unique way, (I mean, she managed to catch a fuckton so I assume she can do it again) so she and Ichi have to compete now and we can see how Ichi's hunting compares to Descarres's style of catching.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
desscaras doesn't really care if ichi fails a hunt or gets beaten up. she only stepped in once poo poo got real.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
Also powerful as she is, she may not be equipped to best the Trails of Magicks they face.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
I mean objectively she's the best witch at Trials considering her giant collection.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Eej posted:

I mean objectively she's the best witch at Trials considering her giant collection.

Oh no doubt, but she still did not seem like she was capable of passing Hisame's trial.

Mercury Hat
May 28, 2006

SharkTales!
Woo-oo!



She's really powerful in that "when all you have is a hammer" way. Her magical combat is great but more narrowly refined than Ichi's way of adapting to what he's hunting. Rather than depower her, she'll probably have to learn to cooperate with him and not just treat him as a subordinate and if this majik isn't an end boss type, that might tie into its trial.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Mercury Hat posted:

She's really powerful in that "when all you have is a hammer" way. Her magical combat is great but more narrowly refined than Ichi's way of adapting to what he's hunting. Rather than depower her, she'll probably have to learn to cooperate with him and not just treat him as a subordinate and if this majik isn't an end boss type, that might tie into its trial.

I mean, she presumably had to have been skilled in a way beyond that to acquire so many magiks in the first place. It's not like she started out with all these powerful magiks (and most presumably can't be captured with direct combat).

MonsterEnvy posted:

Oh no doubt, but she still did not seem like she was capable of passing Hisame's trial.

Tbh I think Ichi just got lucky with this that the magik in question happens to share his exact idea of what would be beautiful

Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Jan 25, 2025

Lt. Lizard
Apr 28, 2013

MonsterEnvy posted:

Oh no doubt, but she still did not seem like she was capable of passing Hisame's trial.

Desscaras would beat her down, use her truth telling majik to force Hisame to tell her what she wants to see in the fashion contest and do that.

Forced truth-telling is pretty OP power in this world, tbh.

SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

What's the matter?
Is there a problem?!

Lt. Lizard posted:

Desscaras would beat her down, use her truth telling majik to force Hisame to tell her what she wants to see in the fashion contest and do that.

Forced truth-telling is pretty OP power in this world, tbh.

There might be limitations to it, though. Like, it can tell you the exact terms of the trial, but maybe not subjective truth about non-physical trials. So since Hisame was so straightforward as to say "make me beautiful", it might not've gotten anything more than that. Otherwise, you're right and might be too powerful of a thing to introduce this early.

7c Nickel
Apr 27, 2008
There might also be a thing where revealing or hiding the trial affects how much power can be brought to bear. Magic can be weird like that if the author wants it to be.

BearDrivingTruck
Oct 15, 2011

You see the most shocking sights sometimes
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1023276

19, Dess is fine, crisis averted


I hope we see more inner world shenanigans down the line

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

Incredibly glad that instead of the Musing in this thread she just beat his rear end so hard she bought the time for the evacuation and killed him so much he decided to give up and leave.

Desscaras ftw.

BearDrivingTruck
Oct 15, 2011

You see the most shocking sights sometimes
I mean, to be fair that really did look like a death flag

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
I liked the panel sequence where it was a few tight shots and then they panned out to reveal Warp was talking out of his disembodied head.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
This Magic Circle beat is going to set up for a hell of a Dess arc where she is knocked out and has to deal with all the Majik's she's captured in whatever her inner circle is.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Failed my 2025 Anime Resolution

BearDrivingTruck posted:

I mean, to be fair that really did look like a death flag

It did not we're barely 20 chapters in and nothings really happened

Julias
Jun 24, 2012

Failed my 2025 Anime Resolution
"Don't say it like that...It's weird."

a cartoon duck
Sep 5, 2011

they weren't gonna hype up desscaras just to make her fail in her first big fight lol

Last Celebration
Mar 30, 2010

Dexo posted:

This Magic Circle beat is going to set up for a hell of a Dess arc where she is knocked out and has to deal with all the Majik's she's captured in whatever her inner circle is.

Everyone will complain about her just generally being the worst (best), just the loving worst (still best). Also probably about being bored as poo poo since if you have Dio bread numbers of little guys in you how many of them really get to see action?

Peel
Dec 3, 2007

Desscaras magic circle housing crisis arc

Shinji2015
Aug 31, 2007
Keen on the hygiene and on the mission like a super technician.

Dexo posted:

This Magic Circle beat is going to set up for a hell of a Dess arc where she is knocked out and has to deal with all the Majik's she's captured in whatever her inner circle is.

:sickos:

I need this now

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.


Dexo posted:

This Magic Circle beat is going to set up for a hell of a Dess arc where she is knocked out and has to deal with all the Majik's she's captured in whatever her inner circle is.

Big rear end tea party you say?

I does not seem that the majiks captured are hostile within the inner world,

Lt. Lizard
Apr 28, 2013
Desscaras with loose hair might be too powerful.

where the red fern gropes
Aug 24, 2011


desscaras charging the inhabitants of her inner world rent

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Dexo posted:

This Magic Circle beat is going to set up for a hell of a Dess arc where she is knocked out and has to deal with all the Majik's she's captured in whatever her inner circle is.

Presumably all Witches are aware of it and have some way of handling it. Dess presumably just lords over hers by force give that it's her inner realm.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
I'm kind of imagining all the majiks in Desscaras' inner realm lovebombing her, which doesn't really make sense but would be a funny way of explaining why she's Like That.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
It's gonna be look caroonish like her report was

BearDrivingTruck
Oct 15, 2011

You see the most shocking sights sometimes
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1023405

20, this boy's a fuckin' lunatic

blizzardvizard
Sep 12, 2012

Shhh... don't wake up the sleeping lion :3:

that boy aint right

Julias
Jun 24, 2012

Failed my 2025 Anime Resolution
ready for Dess to step in and give Ichi a piece of her mind

Shinji2015
Aug 31, 2007
Keen on the hygiene and on the mission like a super technician.

Julias posted:

ready for Dess to step in and give Ichi a piece of her mind

She might actually be serious about it, too!

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SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

What's the matter?
Is there a problem?!
I wonder if Dess already knew about this part of the prophecy, and had already come to terms with it as part of her attempt to acquire Uroro.

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