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It comes directly after Hatsune confesses her love for Sakiko, and Sakiko doesn't respond, so I definitely think it's meant to be pretty dissonant. She likes Hatsune when she's forgetting their past, but she doesn't actually reciprocate the intensity of her feelings. Waking up and facing reality means dealing with the fact that Hatsune is actually her aunt and is a little too obsessed with her; she'd rather stay in a dream. It's true of the rest of the band, too, where she liked who she thought they were, but doesn't know how to feel about the "real" them. I guess that's a pretty harsh read. Maybe next episode will clarify her feelings a bit more.
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It also works pretty literally. For as much as Hatsune thinks she loves her, she doesn't actually know all that much about Sakiko, the inveterate tea drinker who so far as I remember has never been shown drinking coffee, even when she's at coffee shops.
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Mar 23, 2025 15:50
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Coffee drinker x tea drinker is toxic yuri
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I caught up on Ave Mujica over the past few days. I was enjoying it through the mid-point. I thought the Crychic reunion was very well done and touching. Most of the plots since then about getting Ave Mujica back together has been meandering and weak. I agree with people commenting that the writing in this season is noticeably sloppier than MyGo. The Uika plot line was especially poor, and it drags Sakiko’s characterization down with it a bit. Uika being the breaking point that allows Sakiko to defy her grandfather is a little weird. I guess we’ll see how the last episode wraps things up.
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Okay writers, I'm not asking for much, just give me a nice scene with Tomori, Anon, and Sakiko hanging out in the Astronomy Club room. Also Umiri should get to do something cool, and maybe Mutsumi gets a hug. Is that too much to ask?
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Sequel anime announced: https://x.com/bang_dream_info/status/1905266170648998361
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yeah there being a sequel explains a lot about the writing of the back half and also why ep 13 was, the way it was
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Taking avemujica on its own I enjoyed it but it felt like 3.5 different plot arcs stapled together. I'd say 3 of those were good plot arcs but the stapling was not well done
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Yay new MyGO song!Agronox posted:Okay writers, I'm not asking for much, just give me a nice scene with Tomori, Anon, and Sakiko hanging out in the Astronomy Club room. Maybe next year. quote:Also Umiri should get to do something cool, Not really. Although for some reason the camera kept going to her rear end? By the third time it happened I was laughing and they did it twice more after that. quote:and maybe Mutsumi gets a hug. Close enough.  I have mixed feelings about the season as a whole. I'm glad there's a sequel, I'll happily watch it, but when one look of Taki grumbling is more interesting than anything on the Ave Mujica side of things it feels like there was a lot of wasted potential. More thoughts later maybe. I think a re-watch of the whole 26 might be fun.
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Guess it did end up being 12 eps lol For now
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i will say i like the idea of changing the setup for avemujica from dolls to knights as symbolism for them not just going along with things, that is a good way to make the concert episode still feel like it has something to do with the plot
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Well, that was a final episode I guess. I enjoyed the ride and will watch the next season for sure, but I don't think I'd say it was "good".
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Ave Mujica was a good show but is extremely a only part of a story, unlike MyGo which would have still been great even if they hadn't made more
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Agronox posted:Not really. Although for some reason the camera kept going to her rear end? By the third time it happened I was laughing and they did it twice more after that. This was so excessive! What a weird choice. The look Taki gives Anon when she’s hamming it up in their concert  I liked the second MyGo song a lot. The Ave Mujica songs were solid too, but I just don’t care about them much.
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Felt like a very appropriate finish to the show to me - half baked and a bit confused, some dodgy cinematography, doesn't actually wrap up loose ends or satisfyingly answer my open questions, and it feels like two or three shows stapled together... but the music's sick. Just like the rest of the show. I agree with the general sentiment that AM wasn't as good as MyGo, but for me at least it was plenty good enough and I am hopeful that the third installment could be a return to form, tying the storylines together a bit more and really nailing the landing.
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Ave Mujica in the end was a messy show which meant it couldn’t quite hit the highs My Go had but it’s messy nature is why I liked it. And i think if tried to be another My Go I wouldn’t like it as much as I did. As is still real good but behind My Go and just a bit behind Girls Band Cry
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Like the only big change I’d do is cut the Mortis focus episodes by 1 episode and give that to Taki and Nyamu who could have used another episode. Especially Taki who was really funny when she got time
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The ending of Ave Mujica had good songs and weak writing, so I feel the opposite about it as I did for the ending of GBC
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i definitely think it was at least good that they didnt even try to just be mygo again because i doubt they could have topped it.
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The progression of Ave Mujica's music in concert with the anime going from excellent Gothic Metal with some freaky elements to rather unhinged arrangements with shifting dynamics and frankly bizarre lyrics is pretty cool, even if KillKiss is the only song from the most recent ones I'd put on par with the first two mini-albums. Next season, I'd quite like to see MyGo!!!!! build a bigger audience in a sustainable way while Ave Mujica lurches along at a higher level (bigger audiences and I dunno, corporate tie-ins??) but somehow still all interacting across the bands, as most of them somehow have time for school amidst all this. How this impacts the other half of Sumimi is also interesting potentially, beyond all the interpersonal drama.
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If they do a reverse Talented Mr Ripley with the real Uika in season 3 I will forgive them
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Not my idea but if they wanted to actually try the “revenge band” plot, Mana, Uika Prime, and the DISRUPTION girls are right there. It’d make for some good gags anyway
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If they do a revenge band it should have Mana and Uika Prime but also bring in people unrelated to My Go/Ave Mujica for max comedy...like say Kasumi's sister
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Agronox posted:Not my idea but if they wanted to actually try the “revenge band” plot, Mana, Uika Prime, and the DISRUPTION girls are right there. Who's the fifth member of team evil? The British girl who kept calling Anon Ann?
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Fangz posted:Who's the fifth member of team evil? The British girl who kept calling Anon Ann?  (Yes we're doing rock with a horn section)
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i hope s3 features someone telling morfonica about all the poo poo they caused
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Morfonica indirectly causing MyGo! and Ave Mujica to be formed is the most interesting thing Morfonica has done! (and this is with me liking the current story they have in the English Mobile game)
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Moronica
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SatoshiMiwa posted:If they do a revenge band it should have Mana and Uika Prime but also bring in people unrelated to My Go/Ave Mujica for max comedy...like say Kasumi's sister There’s apparently a crazy JP theory that Uika Prime is the identity of a character from the newest Bandori group, the Vtuber Mugendai Mewtype group, because of her appearance.
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Episodes 1 - 10: Fantastic. It was messy and not always perfect, and the translation was at best stilted and at worst atrocious which made things unnecessarily harder to understand, but it was pretty much always entertaining. Episode 11 is a brick wall in terms of pacing. As set up for a sequel I guess they could do interesting things with it, but as of the end of this series I don't think it worked. It feels like we spent a lifetime working through the Mutsumi/Mortis drama (which totally worked for me), only for the show to say that none of that was particularly important to the climax, here are two episodes about something else that's less thought through and less compelling (though the performance was good, Hatsune crawling across the floor crying Sakiko's name lol). I think a simple way to fix most of my issues with it would have been to put the backstory earlier. Directly after episode 7, where the Crychic drama was "concluded", would give a break from that and Mutsumi, would make her story feel better intertwined with the rest of Ave Mujica's downward spiral, would push the conclusion of Mutsumi/Mortis closer to the climax - though still with episode 12 to maintain the tension of if Mortis still exists or they merged or whatever - and would probably give more time to let the viewer digest and self justify the story. I remain convinced that the backstory told through stage performance is not meant to be reliable, and various parts of episode 12 which at first glance seem like they're implying the story is correct don't actually confirm any of it either, which is exactly how you would write it if you wanted to mislead the viewer. But I don't want to wait for a sequel to do something interesting with it. A sequel that throws them into a new situation to break the stasis at the end of episode 13 would have been more exciting to me. Presumably that will still happen, but... eh. Despite complaints I am looking forward to what they do with it. Episode 13: The music is good. I like Tomori's song about facing the painful reality with the support of her friends, move on from the past without forgetting, but that she's still consumed with desire for Sakiko to be happy. And then Ave Mujica's response of: we're not going to do that, and Sakiko's not going to be happy either. It was nice to see Mortis smiling in the mirror. Overall verdict: basically every episode was more interesting than the slowest parts of Mygo, but nothing soared to the heights of the best parts either. I probably prefer Mygo because I don't mind slow build up, but minus above frustrations I'm pretty satisfied with Ave Mujica.
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also kakimoto gave an interview and it seems like the original show would have been both the 'ave mujica vs mygo' plot and also more stuff about the togawa family conspiracies and such, with a more sympathetic view of sakiko's grandfather. and... honestly yeah that version fo the show would have sucked lmao. i mean it probably would have given sakiko more to do and tied hatsunes deal more directly into the plot instead of it just leaping into the show in the last 3 eps, but also, i dont need more gramps.
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that was pretty disappointing. as far as we know the old mutsumi persona is dead?
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Rinkles posted:that was pretty disappointing.
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Endorph posted:i think its more a case where they're split more evenly. the non-mortis/mutsumi personas are back, the original mutsumi is around, mortis is around. they're just splitting the load, and switching is more a casual tag out than madoka magica episode 3. was there an indication she returned after "dying"? the changes we see I took more as mortis starting to grow up herself. i hope umiri gets more attention in the next season. she was kind of reduced to a single character trait once we learned her backstory. i think they should have shown why AM meant so much to her. why was she was willing to abandon the dozen other bands she was committed to?
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there's the scene during the ep 10 concert where mortis dives after mutsumi in their headspace, and they point out earlier that mortis is bad at imitating mutsumi but there are several points in ep 12/13 where mutsumi is acting like mutsumi.
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Rinkles posted:that was pretty disappointing. I don't think any of the personas can actually permanently "die", apart from fusion which this isn't. I think she just retired to the "audience" for now. I'm not afraid of death, death is just everlasting sleep etc. There's just no real need for (toxicly Saki-obsessed) Mutsumi-chan at this point. Maybe she'll be back when Ave Mujica V2 falls apart Fangz fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Mar 29, 2025 |
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Also during the performance in Episode 13 the reflection in the mirror Mutsumi is holing is clearly meant to be Mortis
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