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Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


It’s finally time to get the countdown underway! I know you’re all excited for the top 25(ish), but first we’ve got to get through our honorable mentions!

111th place; 1 point

Far North (TV3)
For All Mankind (Apple TV+)
Heartstopper (Netflix)
Make Some Noise (Dropout)
Renegade Neil (Disney+)
Ronja the Robber’s Daughter (Netflix)
Snowpiercer (AMC)
Survivor (CBS)
The Gentlemen (Netflix)

104th place; 2 points

Bad Sisters (Apple TV+)
Based on a True Story (Peacock)
Dead Boy Detectives (Netflix)
Lioness (Paramount+)
Mary & George (Sky Atlantic)
The Agency (Paramount+)
The Sympathizer (HBO)

96th place; 3 points

Deal or No Deal (Seven)
King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard North American Tour (YouTube)
Laid (Peacock)
Monarch: Legacy of Monsters (Apple TV+)
Star Trek: Discovery (Paramount+)
The Great British Bake-Off (Channel 4)
The Tithes (Warhammer TV)
Wolf Hall (BBC One)

87th place; 4 points

Alone (History)
Boy Swallows Universe (Netflix)
Conan O’Brien Must Go (Max)
Dimension 20: Never Stop Blowing Up (Dropout)
Ghosts (CBS)
Hey! (YouTube)
In the Know (Peacock)
My Brilliant Friend (HBO)
Tokyo Vice (Max)

79th place; 5 points

American Sports Story: Aaron Hernandez (FX)
Delicious in Dungeon (Tokyo MX)
Disclaimer (Apple TV+)
Inside No. 9 (BBC Two)
Monsieur Spade (AMC)
Mr. McMahon (Netflix)
The Acolyte (Disney+)
The Creep Tapes (Shudder/AMC+)

68th place; 6 points

A Man on the Inside (Netflix)
Dandadan (JNN)
Grotesquerie (FX)
Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story (Netflix)
Mr Bates vs the Post Office (ITV)
Pachinko (Apple TV+)
Paris Olympics (NBC, I guess?)
The Boys (Prime Video)
The Devil’s Hour (Prime Video)
True Detective: Night Country (HBO)
We Are Lady Parts (Peacock/Channel 4)

58th place; 7 points

Abbott Elementary (ABC)
Expats (Prime Video)
Invincible (Prime Video)
Love Island USA (Peacock)
Squid Game (Netflix)
The Completely Made-Up Adventures of Dick Turpin (Apple TV+)
The Girls on the Bus (Max)
The Jinx (HBO)
The Vince Staples Show (Netflix)
Very Important People (Dropout)

51st place; 8 points

Davey and Jonsie’s Locker (Hulu/Prime Video)
Everybody’s in LA (Netflix)
Fantasmas (HBO)
Kaos (Netflix)
Resident Alien (Syfy)
Say Nothing (FX)
Shrinking (Apple TV+)

43rd place; 9 points

Batman: Caped Crusader (Prime Video)
Bodkin (Netflix)
Heartbreak High (Netflix)
Skeleton Crew (Disney+)
Somebody Somewhere (HBO)
The Black Swan (NRK TV)
The Franchise (HBO)
The Traitors USA (Peacock)

40th place; 10 points

Jenny Nicholson: The Spectacular Failure of the Star Wars Hotel (YouTube)
On Cinema (HEI Network)
Royal Crackers (Adult Swim)

38th place; 11 points

Black Doves (Netflix)
Masters of the Air (Apple TV+)

34th place; 12 points

Curb Your Enthusiasm (HBO)
Game Changer (Dropout)
Manhunt (Apple TV+)
The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power (Prime Video)

28th place; 13 points

Arcane (Netflix)
Bad Monkey (Apple TV+)
From (MGM+)
Only Murders in the Building (Hulu)
Silo (Apple TV+)
The Diplomat (Netflix)

Gotta sting, seeing Game Changer fall just short of making it to the big countdown. I will say, of all the shows that fell shy, it had the most votes (4). Some other shows I’m shocked to see didn’t make the cut are Rings of Power, Silo, The Boys, Squid Game, and Arcane! Sorry to those shows, but we’ve got plenty more waiting to take their places!

Arist fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Jan 26, 2025

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Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Time to start the top 25 er, 27!

Chairman Capone posted:

a solid adaptation of a solid modern SF classic

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

I was surprised by how much I enjoyed this



27. 3 BODY PROBLEM (NETFLIX)

15 POINTS, LISTED 5 TIMES, 2.8 AVG POINTS, SEASON 1, NEW SHOW

And 3 Body Problem is our first contender knocked out of the running! It got a respectable 5 votes, though.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Rings of Power above Somebody Somewhere :(

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Next up, we have… a tie! Not that surprising, really (we have a lot of ties this year).

Khanstant posted:

Don't think I'll ever get sick of this format



QR Code Geass posted:

I'll watch David Mitchell do pretty much anything



25. TIE: TASKMASTER/LUDWIG (CHANNEL 4, BBC ONE)

15 POINTS EACH

TASKMASTER LISTED 3 TIMES, 5 AVG. POINTS, SERIES 17/18, UP 60

:siren: BEST CHANNEL 4 SHOW :siren:

LUDWIG LISTED 2 TIMES, 7.5 AVG POINTS, #1 1 TIME, SEASON 1, NEW SHOW

:siren: BEST BBC ONE SHOW :siren:


Sadly, Taskmaster goes down not long after Game Changer! And you know what, I’m gonna be honest: I noticed halfway through writing this one that one of the lists was referring to the AU version of Taskmaster and that really hosed my poo poo up, so I’m just going to count them both together!

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I guess I should give Ludwig a shot

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Another tie!

SimonChris posted:

A great spin on the historical mystery genre



Looten Plunder posted:

Some genuinely impressive creative risks taken this year and they all paid off terrifically.



23. TIE: SHARDLAKE/INDUSTRY (DISNEY+, HBO)

19 POINTS EACH

SHARDLAKE LISTED 3 TIMES, 6.33 AVG. POINTS, SEASON 1, NEW SHOW

INDUSTRY LISTED 2 TIMES, 9.5 AVG. POINTS, SEASON 3, RETURNING SHOW


Of all the shows listed this year that got more than one vote, Industry had the highest average!

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


…And what’s this? Another tie!

Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

This was 100% my poo poo



SimonChris posted:

Mind-blowing genius that exceeds the movie in every way



21. TIE: SUGAR/INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE (APPLE TV+, AMC)

20 POINTS EACH, LISTED 3 TIMES EACH, 6.67 AVG. POINTS EACH

SUGAR, SEASON 1, NEW SHOW

INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE, #1 1 TIME, SEASON 2, RETURNING SHOW

:siren: BEST AMC SHOW :siren:


…It was very hard to find quotes for Sugar because so many of you just wanted to talk about the twist :v:

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I already wrote a ton of words about why Industry is so good, but seriously, Industry is so good

e: so is Interview! Sugar is fine

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed
Shardlake is so good!

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


…Okay, really? Again?

Jerusalem posted:

lead by an actor who radiates impossibly high levels of charisma in Ncuti Gatwa



BetterLekNextTime posted:

one of the funniest and most clever action/espionage/intrigue shows out there



19. TIE: DOCTOR WHO/SLOW HORSES (DISNEY+, APPLE TV+)

23 POINTS EACH, LISTED 4 TIMES EACH, 5.75 AVG. POINTS EACH

DOCTOR WHO, THEY RESTARTED THE SEASON COUNTING BUT IT’S 14 gently caress YOU, DOWN 2 PLACES

SLOW HORSES, SEASON 4, DOWN 3 PLACES

:siren: BEST APPLE TV+ SHOW :siren:


Both Doctor Who and Slow Horses are appearing a bit earlier in the count than they did last year! How intriguing! What could have taken their places?

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

Grimey Drawer
A lot of people need to go to prison for Doctor Who placing above many of the shows it has

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed
You people should have said Ken Leung's name louder, he is almost enough for me to give Industry a shot not even knowing what it is about.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


…Whew, no tie this time!

Vegetable posted:

a very different scale of drama

timp posted:

The casting is great, the backgrounds are gorgeous, and the plots are juicy



18. HOUSE OF THE DRAGON (HBO)

24 POINTS, LISTED 3 TIMES, 8 AVG. POINTS, SEASON 2, RETURNING SHOW

And House of the Dragon returns to claim 18th place. It’s down a bit from the respectable 12th place it got back in 2022, but what does that mean for the rest of our contenders?

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Hot D spent way too much time messing around this season but ended really well

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Aaaaand we’re back to ties.

Open Source Idiom posted:

managed to balance its razor sharp combination of tones all the way to the finale



BetterLekNextTime posted:

you almost don't need dialog to follow along since the visual language of the shots are so powerful and well thought out



16. TIE: EVIL/RIPLEY (PARAMOUNT+, NETFLIX)

27 POINTS EACH

EVIL LISTED 4 TIMES, 6.75 AVG. POINTS, #1 1 TIME, SEASON 4, RETURNING SHOW

RIPLEY LISTED 3 TIMES, 9 AVG. POINTS, #1 1 TIME, SEASON 1, NEW SHOW


(Un)fortunately, Evil couldn’t quite make it into the top 15, nor could the new adaptation of The Talented Mr. Ripley, despite glowing praise from many of your lists. What will make it, then?

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Ripley is one of the most beautifully-shot shows ever made but I wasn’t that fussed about the storytelling/pacing

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed
I think Evil was the last show on my list, I did poorly this year even for me :smith:

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Oasx posted:

I think Evil was the last show on my list, I did poorly this year even for me :smith:

I never bothered figuring out how to calculate most/least matching lists to the final results but you are in fact one of the two serious contenders for Most Iconoclastic just from scanning the spreadsheet

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


I think you know what’s about to happen next.

Cojawfee posted:

This is some of the greatest Star Trek there has been.



Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

A nice introduction to radical politics disguised as superhero action and melodrama



14. TIE: STAR TREK: LOWER DECKS/X-MEN ‘97 (PARAMOUNT+, DISNEY+)

29 POINTS EACH, LISTED 5 TIMES EACH, 5.8 AVG. POINTS EACH

STAR TREK: LOWER DECKS, SEASON 5, UP 21 PLACES

:siren: BEST PARAMOUNT+ SHOW :siren:

X-MEN ‘97, SEASON 1, NEW SHOW

:siren: TIE FOR BEST ANIMATED SHOW :siren:


And both of the animated shows in contention go down at the same time! Still, a respectable 14th place finish for both of them.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


I swear to GOD

Shneak posted:

the funniest show on TV



Escobarbarian posted:

the Faks, they were consistently hilarious



12. TIE: HACKS/THE BEAR (MAX, HULU)

30 POINTS EACH

HACKS LISTED 5 TIMES, 6 AVG. POINTS, #1 1 TIME, SEASON 3, RETURNING SHOW

:siren: BEST MAX SHOW :siren:

THE BEAR LISTED 6 TIMES, 5 AVG. POINTS, SEASON 3, DOWN 10 PLACES


I am among all of you who are shocked that The Bear, even in a mild sophomore (well, junior) slump, couldn’t make it back into the top 10. What a year, folks.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


…Are we done with ties? I think we’re done with ties now. Thank gently caress.

DarklyDreaming posted:

poo poo's hosed, let's all laugh together about how much it sucks

Looten Plunder posted:

Sharply written, endlessly confident in itself with no Season 1 jitters



11. ENGLISH TEACHER (FX)

33 POINTS, LISTED 6 TIMES, 5.5 AVG. POINTS, SEASON 1, NEW SHOW


Its future may be in jeopardy thanks to its lead being a dirtbag, but you seemed to like English Teacher a great deal! Also, this is neither here nor there, but as an English major myself I really feel like the title lacks a “The”. Weird mouthfeel on that.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Love the Faks.

Also loved the Hacks.

Also loved English Teacher although shame that guy sucks

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


And now, it’s finally time for the top 10! What will win? I’m pretty sure most of us have already riddled that one out, but let’s keep the drama going!

Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

often strange, but understated at the same time, creating a very unreal-feeling reality

Escobarbarian posted:

a super funny action comedy which also served as a humourous look at relationships

kiminewt posted:

the most slept-on show this year



10. MR. & MRS. SMITH (PRIME VIDEO)

35 POINTS, LISTED 6 TIMES, 5.83 AVG. POINTS, SEASON 1, NEW SHOW


Mr. & Mrs. Smith might be slept-on, but it still made it to #10!

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I can certainly think of more slept-on shows!!!! :mad:

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


And the top 10 continues with a surprise smash from the latter half of the year!

BetterLekNextTime posted:

undoubtedly the most creative show in my top 10

Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

a deconstruction of Asian-American identity. . . But it was also something more -- something far weirder and harder to explain

SimonChris posted:

I love meta-fictional stories, so this was right up my alley.



9. INTERIOR CHINATOWN (HULU)

37 POINTS, LISTED 9 TIMES, 4.11 AVG. POINTS, SEASON 1, NEW SHOW


Interior Chinatown’s esoteric mix of metafiction and procedural detective drama earns it ninth place!

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
Loved Interior Chinatown. I hope there will be a second season.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Coming up in eighth place is something I truly didn’t see coming...

Alhazred posted:

an emotional nuclear bomb of a show.

Meatgrinder posted:

Absolutely brilliant straight from the heart horror story

cryptoclastic posted:

Brutal.



8. BABY REINDEER (NETFLIX)

40 POINTS, LISTED 5 TIMES, 8 AVG. POINTS, #1 2 TIMES, SEASON 1, NEW SHOW

:siren: BEST NETFLIX SHOW :siren:


Baby Reindeer claims eighth place, but that’s as high as Netflix will place on this list, it seems!

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Next up, a long-running favorite!

Cojawfee posted:

Every character on this show is hilarious in their own way and it doesn't get old.

demostars posted:

I'm glad it was sent out on a high note.

TelevisedInsanity posted:

one of the best finales in television



7. WHAT WE DO IN THE SHADOWS (FX)

41 POINTS, LISTED 10 TIMES, 4.1 AVG. POINTS, SEASON 6, UP 14 PLACES

:siren: BEST SITUATION COMEDY :siren:


What We Do in the Shadows claws its way back into the top 10 with its final season!

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed
So far I have 3 shows I would happily put on my 2025 top ten, and three more that will have to fail spectacularly to not be contenders too, so 2025 tv is starting off good.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


One show left before we enter the top five! What could be left?

Chairman Capone posted:

Only the last two episodes aired in 2024, but come on... that last episode alone is worth it

Khanstant posted:

Just incredible evolution of the stuff Nathan Fielder seems interested in tackling

ShoogaSlim posted:

before I knew it, I was totally hooked



6. THE CURSE (SHOWTIME)

44 POINTS, LISTED 5 TIMES, 8.8 AVG. POINTS, #1 3 TIMES, SEASON 1, UP 18 PLACES

:siren: BEST SHOWTIME SHOW :siren:


…Huh. Can’t say I expected that the last two episodes of The Curse would end up on here, but what about The Curse can you honestly say was expected?

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


For the first entry in the top five, we’ve got a show I’m legitimately shocked has taken so long to appear.

Jerusalem posted:

Hilarious, touching, impressively made and very, very, very, very, very, very gay

Shneak posted:

a genuinely funny ensemble comedy that planted its easter eggs rewardingly

Andrew_1985 posted:

Finally, a small-scale Marvel series which isn’t afraid of fun



5. AGATHA ALL ALONG (DISNEY+)

45 POINTS, LISTED 7 TIMES, 6.43 AVG. POINTS, #1 1 TIME, SEASON 1, NEW SHOW

:siren: BEST DISNEY+ SHOW :siren:


A Marvel show made it into the top five! How cute!

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Next up is another orphaned season ending, this time from a much-beloved long-running series.

SimonChris posted:

a great return to form

Vegetable posted:

Noah Hawley can do very little wrong.

MrBuddyLee posted:

Missed this show.



4. FARGO (FX)

57 POINTS, LISTED 9 TIMES, 6.33 AVG. POINTS, #1 1 TIME, SEASON 5, UP 3 PLACES


Fargo falls just shy of the top 3! Extremely impressive, given that it only aired three episodes this year!

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I have food now! Too many 2023 shows in this top 10 lol

Mr. Nemo
Feb 4, 2016

Crazy how that guy does NOT have the worst teeth in Fargo

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Now, it’s finally time for the top 3! I don’t think the results will surprise any of you who’ve been paying attention, but maybe some of the raw numbers will!

Alhazred posted:

a portrayal of an absolute poo poo human being with no redeeming qualities

QR Code Geass posted:

it drew me in to the finish and left me wanting more.

Jerusalem posted:

two very strong performances by Colin Farrell (who is unrecognizable under the prosthetics) and Cristin Milioti.

Meatgrinder posted:

A great surprise



3. THE PENGUIN (HBO)

60 POINTS, LISTED 10 TIMES, 6 AVG. POINTS, SEASON ONE, NEW SHOW

:siren: BEST HBO SHOW :siren:

:siren: BEST SHOW NEVER RANKED #1 :siren:


And our top 3 has a DC show in it! I guess DC did beat Marvel this time at least!

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I actually have no idea what 2 could be lol, I wasn’t paying enough attention I guess

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Now, for our runner-up:

Looten Plunder posted:

The tone was perfect, the characters were fun, the case was spectacular and they did a great job weaving a TV story into a video game world.

bagrada posted:

much better than I expected

Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

ridiculously fun by blending much-needed, tension-breaking humor with all the action and horror

SimonChris posted:

They managed to capture the chaotic feel of playing the game,

timp posted:

They managed to strike the perfect balance between making a good season of television while also capturing the spirit of [the] game



2. FALLOUT (PRIME VIDEO)

132 POINTS, LISTED 20 TIMES, 6.6 AVG. POINTS, #1 3 TIMES, SEASON 1, NEW SHOW

:siren: BEST PRIME VIDEO SHOW :siren:

:siren: MOST LISTED :siren:


And Fallout more than doubles The Penguin’s raw point total! There’s only one show left now…

Meatgrinder
Jul 11, 2003

Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est

Escobarbarian posted:

I already wrote a ton of words about why Industry is so good, but seriously, Industry is so good

e: so is Interview! Sugar is fine

Currently watching Industry because of your words so

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

Grimey Drawer
^^^^ :allears: that really means a lot to me thank you!

oh yeah. good-rear end show

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Meatgrinder
Jul 11, 2003

Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est
Well no1 is not going to be a surprise I think

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