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Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
I still think the original UK seasons are mostly very good. The Netflix seasons are kind of all over the place in quality.

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
There are some genuinely good black mirror episodes. The later ones are hit and miss. Then there's one that's not even black mirror, it was him trying to do a backdoor pilot for a horror/fantasy show.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Apparently there was a Fox Fall preview event stream that seems to indicate that both Simpsons and Bob's Burgers are out for the Sunday schedule when shows come back in Feb and will be moving to Weds. Sunday is apparently going to be Family Guy, Grimsburg, The Great North, and Krapopolis.

If accurate, this will be the first time in 30 years that The Simpsons wasn't on Sundays. I bet it's also another likely sign that the show, as something regular that airs every week, is likely going to be coming to an end with this season.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Fox moves shows to random nights of the week to kill the show. They can say "Wow, ratings really fell off, no one likes this anymore" because people have no idea what night they need to tune in to watch it.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

thrawn527 posted:

I've been thinking about watching Black Mirror for the first time. Is it good to start from the beginning? Or is some of the "hold a dark mirror up to society stuff" from the early seasons dated now?

IMO, watch all of the original UK seasons (first two, I think?). They pretty much all hold up well.

For the Netflix seasons, absolutely recommend Nosedive and San Junipero from S3 and USS Callister, Crocodile and Metalhead from S4. I don't remember any of the S5 ones being good, and only got around to watching Joan Is Awful from S6 (would recommend).

Is Bandersnatch still available? Didn't Netflix say they're discontinuing their games/interactive episodes? If so, that's a neat experience to go through at least once.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

You are the perfect drug
The perfect drug
The perfect drug

bull3964 posted:

Apparently there was a Fox Fall preview event stream that seems to indicate that both Simpsons and Bob's Burgers are out for the Sunday schedule when shows come back in Feb and will be moving to Weds. Sunday is apparently going to be Family Guy, Grimsburg, The Great North, and Krapopolis.

If accurate, this will be the first time in 30 years that The Simpsons wasn't on Sundays. I bet it's also another likely sign that the show, as something regular that airs every week, is likely going to be coming to an end with this season.
Finally! It's only been 25 years since the show was actually funny

Slappy Mancuso
Nov 8, 2024

thrawn527 posted:

I've been thinking about watching Black Mirror for the first time. Is it good to start from the beginning? Or is some of the "hold a dark mirror up to society stuff" from the early seasons dated now?

The only real advice I can think of is try to watch San Junipero last or close to last. It's just really that it's the best one or close to it, and some of the others may pale by comparison if you start there.

Big McHuge
Feb 4, 2014

You wait for the war to happen like vultures.
If you want to help, prevent the war.
Don't save the remnants.

Save them all.

bull3964 posted:

Apparently there was a Fox Fall preview event stream that seems to indicate that both Simpsons and Bob's Burgers are out for the Sunday schedule when shows come back in Feb and will be moving to Weds. Sunday is apparently going to be Family Guy, Grimsburg, The Great North, and Krapopolis.

If accurate, this will be the first time in 30 years that The Simpsons wasn't on Sundays. I bet it's also another likely sign that the show, as something regular that airs every week, is likely going to be coming to an end with this season.

I've really enjoyed Krapopolis, but haven't checked out Grimsburg or Great North, are they worthwhile?

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


The Great North is really good. It's got Bob's Burgers DNA in it.

I think Grimsburg would be more polarizing. It's absolutely unhinged a lot of the time and it depends if that's works for you.

Jon Hamm is good in a comedic role and Alan Tudyk does two characters so that's fun.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Of those three shows, all of which I watch and enjoy, I would definitely say Krapopolis is my least favourite.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


I would probably drop Grimsburg over Krapopolis personally, but I would be genuinely bummed if The Great North was cancelled.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Is Nathan Fillion still a rookie in The Rookie season 7

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005

My understanding is that now he teaches rookies.


As for Fox cartoons, I quite like Grimsburg. It is excessively weird, like the episode where it turns out one of the detectives is immortal.

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



IRQ posted:

I sincerely wish showrunners (among others) would just not read the comments. Or at least don't act on them.
This gets talked about often in this thread and every time it does I have to chime in and mention Mr. Robot being ruined (for me, at least, I know some folks love where it went) because of this. Consider this the mention.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Daisy Ridley strikes me as having a better version of the career Kiera Knightly could have had. I wonder if Knightly could have made more films where she stands around covered in gore, if those were the options open to her.

Black Doves is fun. Written by one of those dudes who knows how to densely plot, good fight choreo. A beer and curry show.

DaveKap posted:

This gets talked about often in this thread and every time it does I have to chime in and mention Mr. Robot being ruined (for me, at least, I know some folks love where it went) because of this. Consider this the mention.

That's so not what happened on that show, but I don't think we're ever gonna see eye to eye on this one.

That said, you know what's a show with a stupid complex plot that seemed completely pre planned and fully executed? Babylon 5 Dark Continuum

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Quote aint edit.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
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This is the year I start 30 Rock, I can feel it.

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007
This might be the first time I've rewatched Barry since the last season came out.

This show rules.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

♪ Come with me, and you'll be, in a world of pure imagination. ♪

Edward Mass posted:

This is the year I start 30 Rock, I can feel it.

I watched through it all not that long ago and I was kicking myself the entire time for waiting so long. It's REALLY loving good.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
2025 is when the world will finally recognise Love My Way supremacy.

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



Open Source Idiom posted:

That's so not what happened on that show, but I don't think we're ever gonna see eye to eye on this one.
Y'know what? I took this moment to go and find the article I read about this. I can't find it, so I'll give up this narrative. If I can't put up, I'll shut up.

God Westworld really turned to dogshit though...

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

If someone talked to you
The way you do to you
I'd put their teeth through
Love yourself

And thats what they do
The bastards made you
Not want to look like you
So you pay through the nose
To look like someone else
All the weirdos on the shelf

Love yourself
Twenty years ago this year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwB56IYDfWs

Iykyk

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Mr. Robot had the problem where the internet guessed a twist wildly early, but it never had the problem where Esmail then tried to make poo poo as baffling and unguessable as possible to make up for that.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Mister Speaker posted:

This might be the first time I've rewatched Barry since the last season came out.

This show rules.

I just watched this over the summer, and I really did not like the last season at all. Other than how things wrapped with Hank, which was perfect. NoHo Hank is secretly the best character on that show.

I think it was also one of those situations where it was a bit part that the actor just killed so hard they made it recurring.

SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer

IRQ posted:

I just watched this over the summer, and I really did not like the last season at all. Other than how things wrapped with Hank, which was perfect. NoHo Hank is secretly the best character on that show.

I think it was also one of those situations where it was a bit part that the actor just killed so hard they made it recurring.

The ending of the penultimate season of Barry was perfect and having the last season roll it back felt mean-spirited and unnecessary. I didn't buy for a second that everyone would believe Gene was the real bad guy all along.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

I wanted to watch something on the 3 consequitive flights that I just had to I started Landman. The premise seemed interesting, it had BBT and Jon Hamm and the reviews were looking decent enough at a glance. But holy poo poo what a dumpster fire. The oil business stuff is mildly interestig at times when it makes sense, but anything to do with women is just batshit and the rest of the writing isn't much better. Had to actually paus it when they just did the "stupid gringo can't eat spicy food 🤣" thing. C'mon.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Edward Mass posted:

This is the year I start 30 Rock, I can feel it.

I rewatched the whole run back in 2021 and was very glad that not only did it still hold up, but it really finds its footing pretty quickly.

Never saw the Covid reunion special, though by now I can’t imagine that particular one holds up.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Jerusalem posted:

I watched through it all not that long ago and I was kicking myself the entire time for waiting so long. It's REALLY loving good.

Yeah there's not really anything like it. Most joke-dense show I've ever seen.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Escobarbarian posted:

Mr. Robot had the problem where the internet guessed a twist wildly early, but it never had the problem where Esmail then tried to make poo poo as baffling and unguessable as possible to make up for that.

Which twist was that? The fight club one? I always figured they made it so obvious it was meant as a misdirect twist.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Nah, the mid-season 2 one where he’s actually been in jail the whole season up to that point

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


I assumed we were talking about the S1 Fight Club thing, which also got predicted early

SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer

Arist posted:

I assumed we were talking about the S1 Fight Club thing, which also got predicted early

I did enjoy the fakeout where they made everyone believe that the real twist was that Mr. Robot was his father, and the girl his sister! Then it turns out that it was the Fight Club thing, and he just modelled his imaginary friend after his father.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Arist posted:

I assumed we were talking about the S1 Fight Club thing, which also got predicted early

I'm pretty sure they expected a lot of people to get it. The reveal even kind of jokes about it being deflating "Come on. Are you really going to make me say it?". The real twist was the sister which was crazy in the moment. Honestly even the Season 2 jail twist was pretty intentionally foreshadowed for anybody who was having fun with the puzzle box stuff, and it was kind of treated as "yeah, here's your puzzle box, anyway..." in story.

isaboo
Nov 10, 2002

The last twist in the finale was the real mindfuck

gently caress I love that show so much. sometimes I rewatch S4E7 by itself just for the outstanding acting between Elliot, Krista, and Vera

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


The finale of Mr. Robot was one of the most satisfying finales I've seen.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Man that last season of Mr. Robot is so good

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Each season does something amazing tbh.

My favourite's the second, which goes to some absolutely mad places by the end of its run. But the fourth is, frankly, just more competently made television and knows it. Total showboating, but still really great.

Sad Esmail hasn't managed to put anything together since even nearly as good, though I was a fan of Homecoming (both seasons).


One of the best shows ever. Another show that's underappreciated considering how mad some of the places it goes to are. The first two seasons are roughly what you'd "expect" of this kind of character drama, but each of the back three features an absolutely wild plot digression. Plus the characters and performances, so loving funny and real.

TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

Burying all the trauma from past nights
Burying my anger in the past

I tried to watch Evil because the premise seemed interesting but after the first four episodes, I have to tap out on it. Episode 3 and 4 ended on particularly heavy notes for me and it’s not what I’d hope to feel after watching…anything.

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer

TV Zombie posted:

I tried to watch Evil because the premise seemed interesting but after the first four episodes, I have to tap out on it. Episode 3 and 4 ended on particularly heavy notes for me and it’s not what I’d hope to feel after watching…anything.

The show often gets... not what I'd call light-hearted, but campier? after the first season when things are more grim. What you're describing is the reason I didn't watch the show with my fiance, knowing she'd feel the same way you did about continuing. It's been a bit of a regret not making her watch it, knowing now how it's become one of my favorite shows of all time. We have too much on our watchlist to have me re-watch a series.

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Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed
The first season is very focused on exorcism if I remember correctly, it is by far the weakest season. It branches out a lot more from season two onwards, the highlight becomes the character interactions and exploring the nature of evil.

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