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StrangersInTheNight posted:. These are uncurious people and they hate art. Art to them is merely something that has the capacity to give them immediate sensory pleasure and can never have any depth beyond that or it's woke. And they don't want to think about it. They treat art like it's pornography and any art that is aimed at an audience other than them or is aimed at an audience wider than them is the woke weapon of their enemy.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:yeah, it's really just a rapid return to the more foundational american bigotry of just hating everything that isn't straight, 'normal-seeming', white men Yup, like I posted early cis male veterans can now be denied care if they develop breast cancer because that's the 'wrong' kind of cancer for men to have, the strict enforcement of government assigned gender roles is just going to keep getting dumber and increasingly harmful.
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Oct 29, 2025 22:15
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StrangersInTheNight posted:this did unfortunately happen yes so now we've got fantasy everywhere with the same weird essentialist racial dynamics and if you try to discuss it critically you are bombarded with 'it's just inspired by Tolkein, ok??? it's not that deep' blugh IIRC a lot of modern fantasy* has moved well away from this though? I feel like modern fantasy discussion w/r/t essentially is generally more nuanced. Like we're not in the 90's anymore, and in modern D&D you have all of these different sentient species you can now freely pick and play without being evil. With specific bonuses being more commonly attributed to the culture not their genetics. There's loads of think pieces diving into the problematic aspects of older D&D and pretty much all of the prominent public faces of D&D are "allies" of one degree or another. Like I wouldn't go so far as to say that "modern corporate fantasy has beaten bigotry" as that would be overly simplistic, but fantasy has as a genre certainly evolved quite significantly past the original bark and fruits of Tolkien's original regret in being a force for building something a little more constructive at home in the 21st century. Unless you mean of course fantasy as it existed as a whole over like the past 60 years as a genre and medium then sure, the positive changes in this regard to fantasy and fantasy gaming is rather recent, but those positive changes and a move towards more thoughtful and inclusive interpretation of fantasy tropes are happening. *Not accounting for the OSR weirdos I see on twitter.
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Oct 29, 2025 22:19
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It's not even exactly OSR. OSR isn't inherently fascist. Hell, I'm an OSR fan. Rather fascists are hanging around the edges of these communities recruiting lonely people. They pot stir and pick fights and evoke nostalgia. They frequently give themselves away by not knowing basic facts about the things they pot stir about. Like for instance, grummz presented himself as a 40K fan and was trying to stir up Warhammer 40K drama about orks where he misspelled it as "Orcs." It's not just in d&d, it's in wargaming, it's in video games, it's in Star wars, it's in comics and other geek properties too. They're trying to recreate gamergate and the influx of new fascists that it created
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Oct 29, 2025 22:59
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Zoeb posted:It's not even exactly OSR. OSR isn't inherently fascist. Hell, I'm an OSR fan. Rather fascists are hanging around the edges of these communities recruiting lonely people. They pot stir and pick fights and evoke nostalgia. They frequently give themselves away by not knowing basic facts about the things they pot stir about. Like for instance, grummz presented himself as a 40K fan and was trying to stir up Warhammer 40K drama about orks where he misspelled it as "Orcs." It's not just in d&d, it's in wargaming, it's in video games, it's in Star wars, it's in comics and other geek properties too. They're trying to recreate gamergate and the influx of new fascists that it created I vividly recall one of these culture war grifter losers in a moment of candidness just laying the game out for everyone and saying "I lie awake at night praying for another The Last Jedi cultural breaking point moment, because I've never gotten so many views or made as much money as I did talking about The Last Jedi, so I try to make everything I can into a new The Last Jedi." What a sad existence.
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Oct 29, 2025 23:16
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Zoeb posted:It's not even exactly OSR. OSR isn't inherently fascist. Hell, I'm an OSR fan. Rather fascists are hanging around the edges of these communities recruiting lonely people. They pot stir and pick fights and evoke nostalgia. They frequently give themselves away by not knowing basic facts about the things they pot stir about. Like for instance, grummz presented himself as a 40K fan and was trying to stir up Warhammer 40K drama about orks where he misspelled it as "Orcs." It's not just in d&d, it's in wargaming, it's in video games, it's in Star wars, it's in comics and other geek properties too. They're trying to recreate gamergate and the influx of new fascists that it created I've seen several Tolkien adjacent FB groups where they make memes about "orcs" where they are definitely 100% talking about black folks.
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Oct 29, 2025 23:21
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FrumpleOrz posted:I always get a chuckle out of how often fantasy settings in games, tabletop or electronic, make humans the "normal" race. I can understand it from a mechanics point of view but it just reminds me of geocentrism where we're the only reference point for everything. This is somewhat subverted in the roguelike game, Faster than Light, where you're basically piloting the Starship Enterprise on a mission to save the world, and the bad guys of the fictional universe are humans. And within the game mechanics, humans are "boring and ordinary", and you as the player want to crew your ship with the other, alien races, who all have abilities and bonuses that humans do not.
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Oct 29, 2025 23:24
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mawarannahr posted:The other day he seemingly endorsed a Vance-Rubio ticket. Here's the clearest source I could find of that segment specifically, sorry it's a lovely account: Is her referring to "Little Marco?"
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Oct 29, 2025 23:37
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Craig_K posted:cash helps them both buy the food and transport it from, say, the walmart to their food bank. and the offhand number i saw a while back please don't ask me to look it up was that a $100 donation can feed as many people as $250 worth of donated food That makes me feel even better about the $100 I donated to the one within walking distance of my house. On Tuesdays and Thursdays they're open from 5:30-7:00PM. Normally there's 3-5 cars in the parking lot. Yesterday there was 30.
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Oct 29, 2025 23:48
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Zoeb posted:But they are only hearing about us because of the right wing propaganda starting the fight and making it the issue. For instance, the fight over bathroom bills was started by the right. Weirdly enough, we've just been using the bathroom the whole time. So suggesting that we are making these unreasonable demands is conceding the narrative. The people making the argument that we are a loud demanding minority that need to be appeased are not being honest. We were not asking to be let in the military, we were already in the military and it was stripped away from. Right? You're posting some good poo poo so thanks for that. loving bathroom police, jesus. These people ARE weird More than once, in the last year, if I really had to loving go and the men's room was locked, I went into the ladies room and pooped or peed without a second though and nothing happened with it. Maybe I'm on camera and a felon now but aside from a startled look coming out, no one gave a flying gently caress. If I arrive at work early and have to wait in the parking lot but last night's dinner or my morning coffee has other ideas, I just go to the nearest bathroom rather than pissing in the street or an empty Gatorade bottle. God drat, nothing more serious to worry about, I guess? WTF do Republicans think goes on in public restrooms anyway? IME, Everyone just ignores everyone else and tries not to poo poo to loud if it's a troublesome one.
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Oct 29, 2025 23:52
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So I'm aboard a US Navy warship and the captain says to me, "That cigarette boat is probably full of drugs, according to the commander-in-chief. Kill everyone aboard." We know that in at least 14 cases, sailors got this order and complied with it, even though it is clearly cold-blooded murder. What happens if I refuse the order? I'm sure this is the end of my naval career, but in principle armed forces members have an obligation to refuse illegal orders. Does the DoD just eat the bad publicity to court martial me and send me to prison for a long time?
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Oct 29, 2025 23:57
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:So I'm aboard a US Navy warship and the captain says to me, "That cigarette boat is probably full of drugs, according to the commander-in-chief. Kill everyone aboard." We know that in at least 14 cases, sailors got this order and complied with it, even though it is clearly cold-blooded murder. What happens if I refuse the order? I'm sure this is the end of my naval career, but in principle armed forces members have an obligation to refuse illegal orders. Does the DoD just eat the bad publicity to court martial me and send me to prison for a long time? Well you used to be able to ask naval JAG but hegseth fired all those lawyers. Specifically those lawyers.
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Oct 30, 2025 00:03
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Zoeb posted:Italian fascists are really obsessed with the Lord of the rings for some reason and so is, apparently American fascists like Peter Thiel and whoever is running the social media account. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdm6bFMoqh4 This Behind the Bastards episode is like 90% Robert Evans and Cody Johnston clowning on Ben Shapiro for misquoting and misrepresenting JRR Tolkien and CS Lewis by talking about what they actually believed and wrote about and how much they would loving despise a little Wormtongue piece of solidified piss like Benny Shaps.
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Oct 30, 2025 00:04
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:So I'm aboard a US Navy warship and the captain says to me, "That cigarette boat is probably full of drugs, according to the commander-in-chief. Kill everyone aboard." We know that in at least 14 cases, sailors got this order and complied with it, even though it is clearly cold-blooded murder. What happens if I refuse the order? I'm sure this is the end of my naval career, but in principle armed forces members have an obligation to refuse illegal orders. Does the DoD just eat the bad publicity to court martial me and send me to prison for a long time? There's been a video by a Naval JAG who is a guest on Legal Eagle and the basic rundown is by the time an order gets to you on your boat it's presumed lawful. If you refuse the order you're basically accepting all of the consequences at your peril. Officers and soldiers of the US military are trained to immediately and without question obey orders, the oath to defend the constitution it is not an invitation to question what is legal and lawful. In practice the possibility of avoiding punishment is basically nil. You will very likely be punished, you can be forced to do hard labour etc until you comply for instance, and almost certainly be court martial'd. "Bad press" isn't going to be a factor. You are jeopardizing your benefits, rank, retirement, pension, etc. Plenty of people have refused orders they thought were illegal, national guard deployments etc, and it hasn't worked out afaik for any of them. And iirc the obligation is to refuse patently illegal orders, i.e orders in furtherence of a crime, in practice though this doesn't mean what most people think it means, refusing orders to for example, be deployed to a US city or fire on a boat in the open sea, you basically will get the book thrown at you, and you will very likely face the full range of consequences. Now if the hypothetical gi jimbo is okay with that, all power to them; but in practice basically no one is going to be refusing these orders once it gets filtered down to specific boats. Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Oct 30, 2025 |
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Oct 30, 2025 00:11
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Rappaport posted:This is somewhat subverted in the roguelike game, Faster than Light, where you're basically piloting the Starship Enterprise on a mission to save the world, and the bad guys of the fictional universe are humans. And within the game mechanics, humans are "boring and ordinary", and you as the player want to crew your ship with the other, alien races, who all have abilities and bonuses that humans do not. I can get behind that. I really should give that game more of a shot. I missed it during its original popularity and only know a lot of it through osmosis.
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Oct 30, 2025 00:11
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BiggerBoat posted:God drat, nothing more serious to worry about, I guess? WTF do Republicans think goes on in public restrooms anyway? IME, Everyone just ignores everyone else and tries not to poo poo to loud if it's a troublesome one. More Republican elected officials have been arrested for sexual misconduct in a public restroom than there have been trans people[1]. [1] Last I looked it was only one case of a trans person, and that really was a dude who just put on a dress and went into a women's restroom to cause trouble. And three (R) Congressional representatives.
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Oct 30, 2025 00:11
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Raenir Salazar posted:In practice the possibility of avoiding punishment is basically nil. You will very likely be punished, you can be forced to do hard labour etc until you comply for instance, and almost certainly be court martial'd. "Bad press" isn't going to be a factor. You are jeopardizing your benefits, rank, retirement, pension, etc. The explicit instruction we got at the academy in naval ethics decades ago was that one does it (refuse an order) with the understanding one will be punished. Edit: there was a PowerPoint, with a flow chart and procedure.
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Oct 30, 2025 00:19
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Bar Ran Dun posted:The explicit instruction we got at the academy in naval ethics decades ago was that one does it (refuse an order) with the understanding one will be punished. So basically, on a boat, you can refuse, but you won't, because of the implication.
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Oct 30, 2025 00:24
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It’s more that every thing has a procedure. There could be situations where folks might, they just will know the consequences.
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Oct 30, 2025 00:28
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:So basically, on a boat, you can refuse, but you won't, because of the implication. So anyway, I start blastin
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Oct 30, 2025 00:29
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:So I'm aboard a US Navy warship and the captain says to me, "That cigarette boat is probably full of drugs, according to the commander-in-chief. Kill everyone aboard." We know that in at least 14 cases, sailors got this order and complied with it, even though it is clearly cold-blooded murder. What happens if I refuse the order? I'm sure this is the end of my naval career, but in principle armed forces members have an obligation to refuse illegal orders. Does the DoD just eat the bad publicity to court martial me and send me to prison for a long time? Of course they're going to court-martial you. If you had good reason to believe the order was definitely, obviously illegal, you'd raise that as your defense during the court-martial. And then you'd probably lose. If you're Joe Buttonpusher sitting at a missile launch console waiting for orders to push the missile launch button, you have no way of knowing who or what is on that boat, and would therefore have a pretty drat hard time arguing that you had clear grounds to believe that the order was definitely illegal. If the people who're paid to know things and the people that're paid to make decisions all say there's a good reason to push that button, the guy who's paid to push the launch button needs an extremely solid reason to say that they're all wrong and that the button shouldn't be pushed.
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Oct 30, 2025 00:44
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:So I'm aboard a US Navy warship and the captain says to me, "That cigarette boat is probably full of drugs, according to the commander-in-chief. Kill everyone aboard." We know that in at least 14 cases, sailors got this order and complied with it, even though it is clearly cold-blooded murder. What happens if I refuse the order? I'm sure this is the end of my naval career, but in principle armed forces members have an obligation to refuse illegal orders. Does the DoD just eat the bad publicity to court martial me and send me to prison for a long time? if you don't know Legal Eagle on youtube, it is a good start. They had a JAG come on and explain. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwPLqGkYnBA also, Goons in Platoons/GiP (on SA) has good stuff and a legal thread. Consider that if you do object (and it WOULD be the right thing to do in my opinion, no disagreement) you could go to jail. this is a very real, and probable, outcome.
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Oct 30, 2025 01:27
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Raenir Salazar posted:There's been a video by a Naval JAG who is a guest on Legal Eagle and the basic rundown is by the time an order gets to you on your boat it's presumed lawful. If you refuse the order you're basically accepting all of the consequences at your peril. Officers and soldiers of the US military are trained to immediately and without question obey orders, the oath to defend the constitution it is not an invitation to question what is legal and lawful. In practice the possibility of avoiding punishment is basically nil. You will very likely be punished, you can be forced to do hard labour etc until you comply for instance, and almost certainly be court martial'd. "Bad press" isn't going to be a factor. You are jeopardizing your benefits, rank, retirement, pension, etc. I've been out a bit, but as an O, it is not accurate to say that we "are trained to immediately and without question obey orders." You are very much expected to question orders that seem wrong, or go against standing orders. I did this myself. I was the boat-o on our small boat picking up full containers of gas that a cigarette boat dumped. The order came from the ship to dump the fuel into the ocean so it wouldn't be a hazard on board. I happened to be the Anti-Sub Officer and knew that our standing orders say we can not dump poo poo like that, so I tell them so and that I would not be dumping it. I ended up getting the Capt to give me the direct order to dump it. Then I had my guys dump it. (He's the CO, Im not that loving dumb). When I got on board, I immediately had the QM log into the Ship's Log that I was given a direct order to dump the gas from the CO. No way in gently caress was I having that one on me. Other than that, he was a great CO honestly. I got out 2017. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
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Oct 30, 2025 01:35
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/29/trump-pentagon-us-nuclear-weapons lmao what the gently caress
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Oct 30, 2025 01:45
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Trump is now testing the N word
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Oct 30, 2025 01:46
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Celexi posted:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/29/trump-pentagon-us-nuclear-weapons Cool, good. I'm sure this will help bring down the general global tensions level. I can't think of anything that would make the geopolitical climate more stable than a return to live nuclear weapons testing by one of the NPT states.
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Oct 30, 2025 01:49
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brave move by this man to remind everybody "yes i have the ability to launch nuclear weapons at a moment's notice"
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Oct 30, 2025 01:50
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How often do we usually test nuclear weapons?
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Oct 30, 2025 01:51
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John Wick of Dogs posted:How often do we usually test nuclear weapons? We haven't since the early 90u's and they were underground testing, but that will be too woke for him, so we will get the good old days of mushroom clouds and spectacle.
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Oct 30, 2025 01:52
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I think they inspect warheads pretty regularly, but we haven't detonated a warhead in 30 years not clear what he means, cause he's an idiot
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Oct 30, 2025 01:53
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John Wick of Dogs posted:How often do we usually test nuclear weapons? All the time, but it is done with computers and simulations because no one outside of North Korea is blowing them up any more to test.
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Oct 30, 2025 01:54
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:I think they inspect warheads pretty regularly, but we haven't detonated a warhead in 30 years the idiot that made his sons sit next to the vcr to fastforward boring parts of the movies to get to action scenes. (oh and the nude scenes)
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Oct 30, 2025 01:57
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Isn't there a shortage of yellow cake to the point where nuclear arms are kind of just an expensive but glad to be expensive and wasted than expensive and needed.
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Oct 30, 2025 02:00
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Celexi posted:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/29/trump-pentagon-us-nuclear-weapons I loving called it. I knew he’d want to start playing with the those things, and get big scary footage of it for all the juicy ratings! He’s so predictable in his awfulness.
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Oct 30, 2025 02:01
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also it's an all time Missing The Point Award for announcing this after leaving a diplomatic trip IN JAPAN
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Oct 30, 2025 02:01
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:I think they inspect warheads pretty regularly, but we haven't detonated a warhead in 30 years He's been obsessed with nukes for years including wanting to nuke a hurricane. He just wants to feel big and strong and to him that means firing off bombs and nukes and poo poo because, you are right, he's an idiot. The actual stupidest motherfucker who ever lived, ever
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Oct 30, 2025 02:01
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It's gonna have to be real mushroom clouds that he can see with his own eyes because no way supercomputer simulations will satisfy his long held dream that's he's had since this afternoon. Maybe someone can whip up some footage in unreal engine and show him and then dangle some keys in front of his eyes and that might be that.
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Oct 30, 2025 02:12
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lol he’s gonna accidentally nuke a state (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 30, 2025 02:17
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i'm pretty sure china and russia haven't actually tested a nuclear warheads in decades right, just the delivery system?
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cr0y posted:It's gonna have to be real mushroom clouds that he can see with his own eyes because no way supercomputer simulations will satisfy his long held dream that's he's had since this afternoon. I hope so because he will also look at it directly with his eyeballs, which would rule
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