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Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine
I guess if I was :tinfoil: I would try to make something out of two explosive laden* electric pickups getting into poo poo on the same day.

* Samsung wanted to autocorrect "laden" to "Laden" THEY'RE ON TO ME

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OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

Discussion Quorum posted:

I guess if I was :tinfoil: I would try to make something out of two explosive laden* electric pickups getting into poo poo on the same day.

* Samsung wanted to autocorrect "laden" to "Laden" THEY'RE ON TO ME

Well, holidays bring out both terrorists (gatherings to target) and people doing stupid stuff more than usual (booze and fireworks); and sometimes it takes some work to figure out which happened.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Discussion Quorum posted:

I guess if I was :tinfoil: I would try to make something out of two explosive laden* electric pickups getting into poo poo on the same day.

* Samsung wanted to autocorrect "laden" to "Laden" THEY'RE ON TO ME

Turo is making their move

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

Stultus Maximus posted:

Turo is making their move

For those wondering, both vehicles that did things today were rented on Turo. The Cybertruck exploding shockingly may not have just been a Cybertruck exploding. It's also possibly a terrorism. The next few years are just gonna be wild.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





fknlo posted:

For those wondering, both vehicles that did things today were rented on Turo. The Cybertruck exploding shockingly may not have just been a Cybertruck exploding. It's also possibly a terrorism. The next few years are just gonna be wild.

if it was a terror strike at least for once it was at an old white rich man instead of, well

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

fknlo posted:

For those wondering, both vehicles that did things today were rented on Turo.

Discussion Quorum posted:

I guess if I was tinfoil a genius :viggo:I would try to make something out of two explosive laden* electric pickups getting into poo poo on the same day.

Fixing my own post

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


https://x.com/Tom_Winter/status/1874577016692854811

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006


Good to know the investigation was not accidental. Seems like a stretch to call it a terror attack though.

Cool Dad
Jun 15, 2007

Look out, here come my posts
The investigation is that bad huh?

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

Cool Dad posted:

The investigation is that bad huh?

I don't think it's the cops' job to be editors for NBC, they already have way too much influence on reporting as is.

Steezo
Jun 16, 2003

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Good to know the investigation was not accidental. Seems like a stretch to call it a terror attack though.

Given that it was a tesla, I wouldn't rule out errorism.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Good to know the investigation was not accidental. Seems like a stretch to call it a terror attack though.

Everything is a loving terror attack with a weapon of mass destruction now. Bike theft? Terrorism and your bolt cutters are a WMD. Shoplifting from Walmart? Terrorism and the 9/11 hijackers had a box cutter just like that, buddy.

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

Midjack posted:

Everything is a loving terror attack

Untrue, if you force people to live in a constant state of terror that a capricious AI will leave them to financial ruin despite paying thousands of dollars every year, that's merely "enhancing stockholder value".

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

DEER CRACKERS

Midjack posted:

Everything is a loving terror attack with a weapon of mass destruction now. Bike theft? Terrorism

lol no

The cops absolutely do not give a poo poo, like even less than other crimes against non-corporate persons.

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

Bike theft: *pretends to write report*
bYke.com theft: This is an attack against America itself

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


AP reporting the Vegas Cybertruck guy was an AD Army Green Beret on leave

I guess being SF doesn't account for taste in vehicles

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!
That and the New Orleans event make me worry about a crackdown within the military, but I'm probably doomering.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
I'm pretty sure that given who was in the driver's seat when the tesla exploded that the vegas incident was due to stupidity and not intentional. He was definitely just a moron that was going to go make some big fires in the desert.

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006

I LOVE STICKS!!

Pine Cone Jones posted:

That and the New Orleans event make me worry about a crackdown within the military, but I'm probably doomering.

i mean trump has actively been talking about purging the military a lot and these two conspicuously timed events give him cause to do just that

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon

Pine Cone Jones posted:

That and the New Orleans event make me worry about a crackdown within the military, but I'm probably doomering.

I'm not sure what you're going for here, but we desperately *need* a crackdown on SF weirdos running their own drug ops, Neonazis, and alt-right incels etc in the military.

Or do you mean a crackdown of like, normal sane people in the miltary only leaving the wack jobs by design?

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
If I hear one more person talk about how "if it had been any other vehicle besides the cyber truck it would have been worse" I might lose my mind. THAT'S NOT HOW EXPLOSIONS WORK and this was just some fireworks and camp fuel. It would have done the exact same thing in the bed of any truck.

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!

M_Gargantua posted:

I'm not sure what you're going for here, but we desperately *need* a crackdown on SF weirdos running their own drug ops, Neonazis, and alt-right incels etc in the military.

Or do you mean a crackdown of like, normal sane people in the miltary only leaving the wack jobs by design?

Getting rid of the normal sane people.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

The numbers don't lie, we're all fucked.

fknlo posted:

If I hear one more person talk about how "if it had been any other vehicle besides the cyber truck it would have been worse" I might lose my mind. THAT'S NOT HOW EXPLOSIONS WORK and this was just some fireworks and camp fuel. It would have done the exact same thing in the bed of any truck.

I'd recommend more exposure to this line of thinking as a form of brain protection because we're in for a lot more of it. Motivated reasoning is going to be the reasoning of the day, regardless of said reasoning's proximity to actual fact.

Objectively, Elon manufactures a giant, expensive piece of poo poo. Every time the giant, expensive piece of poo poo is revealed to be a giant, expensive piece of poo poo by burning down, loving up, or not working, everyone will simply defend the giant, expensive piece of poo poo because being wrong is now a core part of their personality. In fact, the world would be better with MORE giant, expensive pieces of poo poo and you should definitely buy one, you sheep!

I'll take the GEPS Gun.

My Spirit Otter posted:

i mean trump has actively been talking about purging the military a lot and these two conspicuously timed events give him cause to do just that

My optimistic take is that they'll likely suck at that too. During the first administration, they were objectively awful at stopping leaks of damaging information out to the press - and the leakers were MAGA-types. I can't imagine they'd be successful reaching out even farther from the MAGA circles - it's a level of skill they don't have.

Not to mention that the military is having a real rough time recruiting at the moment, missing tons of targets. Same with police departments, secret service, etc.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
Did it start as a cybertruk fire or a fire that happened to be in a cybertruk?

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

Mr. Nice! posted:

Did it start as a cybertruk fire or a fire that happened to be in a cybertruk?

it died with explosive batteries, not of explosive batteries :elon:

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

M_Gargantua posted:

I'm not sure what you're going for here, but we desperately *need* a crackdown on SF weirdos running their own drug ops, Neonazis, and alt-right incels etc in the military.

Or do you mean a crackdown of like, normal sane people in the miltary only leaving the wack jobs by design?

Ya know all the times Trump wanted to start bombing Mexico, deploying the military domestically, gunning down protesters en masse and on and on? Every time some of that poo poo dribbled out of his puckered mouth anus someone slow walked it, said "Actually that's super illegal or outright unconstitutional", or leaked it to the press and raised a stink.

All of that poo poo infuriated Donnie Goodbrains. When he farts out some words about the deep state that's what he's talking about.

Those are the people he wants to crack down on so the next time he says Biden needs to be put on trial or what the gently caress ever everybody under him says "Yes".

Assholes like Stephen Miller aren't going to be cracking down on special forces white supremacists and poo poo, they'll be giving out promotions.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009
Didn't Trump pardon some special forces type that was punished for purposefully murdering kids?

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


OddObserver posted:

Didn't Trump pardon some special forces type that was punished for purposefully murdering kids?

Yes, Eddie Gallagher, a SEAL Chief who was so bad his own dudes turned him in

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006

I LOVE STICKS!!

facialimpediment posted:

My optimistic take is that they'll likely suck at that too. During the first administration, they were objectively awful at stopping leaks of damaging information out to the press - and the leakers were MAGA-types. I can't imagine they'd be successful reaching out even farther from the MAGA circles - it's a level of skill they don't have.

Not to mention that the military is having a real rough time recruiting at the moment, missing tons of targets. Same with police departments, secret service, etc.

i hope you're right but i can see his cronies going through with it despite recruiting and retention issues then using lack of manpower as an excuse for nationalising ultra-right wing militias.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

He pardoned a few no poo poo war crimes guys, but Gallagher ended up with the version of aquittal when witnesses refused to testify, and one guy changed his story on the stand.

Gallagher now owns and runs Half Face Blades, a knife maker.

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

My Spirit Otter posted:

i hope you're right but i can see his cronies going through with it despite recruiting and retention issues then using lack of manpower as an excuse for nationalising ultra-right wing militias.
His bestie Vlad is doing this in Russia currently, isn't he?

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006

I LOVE STICKS!!

stealie72 posted:

His bestie Vlad is doing this in Russia currently, isn't he?

thats less of a purge and more of a giant gently caress-up in his case, though

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

My Spirit Otter posted:

i hope you're right but i can see his cronies going through with it despite recruiting and retention issues then using lack of manpower as an excuse for nationalising ultra-right wing militias.

Just subject them to height and weight and fitness standards and I don't think it will be a problem.

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

https://apnews.com/article/trump-hotel-explosion-tesla-cybertruck-5c5a8fd13a50e2bcde46370ae926d427

quote:

Clark County Sheriff Kevin McMahill said at a news conference that a handgun was found at the feet of the man in the driver’s seat, who officials believe is Matthew Livelsberger, 37, of Colorado. The shot appeared to be self-inflicted, officials said.

https://bsky.app/profile/justinrohrlich.bsky.social/post/3lerqnviurc2y

quote:

The Cybertruck bomber's uncle has questions: “Matt was a very skilled warrior, and he would be able to make a more sophisticated explosive than using propane tanks and camping fuel.” Also said his nephew was a new dad who ”loved Trump,” and was ”100% patriot.”

Once again, it's the same old pattern, men with easy access to guns, internet related brainworms, broken relationships, terminally online conspiracy brains, and isolation decide to do the unthinkable. And because conspiracy brain is right wing coded now, these men are either far right or politically incoherent but leaning right.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

golden bubble posted:

https://apnews.com/article/trump-hotel-explosion-tesla-cybertruck-5c5a8fd13a50e2bcde46370ae926d427

https://bsky.app/profile/justinrohrlich.bsky.social/post/3lerqnviurc2y

Once again, it's the same old pattern, men with easy access to guns, internet related brainworms, broken relationships, terminally online conspiracy brains, and isolation decide to do the unthinkable. And because conspiracy brain is right wing coded now, these men are either far right or politically incoherent but leaning right.

Green Beret doesn't know how explosions work. I guess that's OBiden's woke military for you, spending more time on pronouns than improvising bombs.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
They've been secretly diverting money to fund the development of the ultimate weapon: a Pronoun Bomb that can instantly change the pronouns of everyone within the blast radius.

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006

I LOVE STICKS!!

not caring here posted:

Just subject them to height and weight and fitness standards and I don't think it will be a problem.

the only standard that matters is just how much you love the donald

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Vincent Van Goatse posted:

They've been secretly diverting money to fund the development of the ultimate weapon: a Pronoun Bomb that can instantly change the pronouns of everyone within the blast radius.

A weapon to surpass Metal Gear!

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless
We already did "countering violent extremism" training after Jan 6th and they bent over backwards to avoid pointing fingers at any actual movements, so it was all phrased as this extremely hypothetical and abstract thing.

They also took pains to reassure people that it's totally okay and your right to, e.g., think that lizard people control the world and that there needs to be a violent overthrow of the government; you just can't say that out loud at work.

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

DEER CRACKERS

Nick Soapdish posted:

AP reporting the Vegas Cybertruck guy was an AD Army Green Beret on leave

Same base but it was Fort Liberty (for two and a half weeks still) and they wouldn’t have crossed paths much.

quote:

Both Livelsberger and Jabbar spent time at the base formerly known as Fort Bragg, a massive Army base in North Carolina that is home to multiple Army special operations units. However, one of the officials who spoke to the AP said there is no overlap in their assignments at the base, now called Fort Liberty.

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