CD Genchat 2025: Part 6: The Final Chapter

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Gripweed: Nov 8, 2018

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Who plays the most smug movie character of all time?

I vote Tim Robbins in The Player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-Tp8AGroPE

# ? Apr 16, 2025 05:04

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# ? Apr 18, 2025 14:38

ShoogaSlim: May 22, 2001; YOU ARE THE DUMBEST MEATHEAD IDIOT ON THE PLANET, STOP FUCKING POSTING

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Clooney does an amazing smug, his greatest strength

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHqL43ZDqF8

# ? Apr 16, 2025 05:08

CPL593H: Oct 28, 2009; I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

El Gallinero Gros posted:

How was it

I don't know. I didn't see it.it

# ? Apr 16, 2025 05:22

Teriyaki Hairpiece: Dec 29, 2006; I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

ShoogaSlim posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHqL43ZDqF8

A friend of the show who had done a voice for them when they were just a scrappy little cable program and they did him like that. Loyalty is a construct I guess

# ? Apr 16, 2025 05:39

Ghost Leviathan: Mar 2, 2017

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Who plays the most smug movie character of all time?

I vote Tim Robbins in The Player

Hanz Landa comes to mind.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 06:47

trapstar: Jun 30, 2012; Yo tengo un par de ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrLequ6dUdM
Come to think of it Mikey Saber is the most "scrub" character I've ever seen. He literally is the epitome of a "scrub" as described in the song.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 08:16

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018; Got some
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Who plays the most smug movie character of all time?

I vote Tim Robbins in The Player

# ? Apr 16, 2025 08:49

trapstar: Jun 30, 2012; Yo tengo un par de ideas.

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Who plays the most smug movie character of all time?

I vote Tim Robbins in The Player

Honorable mention (Jacques le Gris from The Last Duel)

# ? Apr 16, 2025 09:32

CelticPredator: Oct 11, 2013; 🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

James Bond

# ? Apr 16, 2025 09:40

CPL593H: Oct 28, 2009; I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Cursed.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 10:19

Gaius Marius: Oct 9, 2012

God I wish I could be there

# ? Apr 16, 2025 10:19

CPL593H: Oct 28, 2009; I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

It sold out at 50 bucks a seat. Is the movie really some misunderstood masterpiece? All I've heard is that it's the cinematic equivalent of an old man's incoherent ramblings. Coppola's talk about it in the media didn't help matters. Not one single word I've heard about this film leads me to believe it's anything but an insane disaster.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 10:24

Rascar Capac: Aug 31, 2016; Surprisingly nice, for an evil Inca mummy.

The chance to see one of the greatest filmmakers of all time – who is now 86 – in person is going to be popular even if his most recent film isn't very good.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 10:29

CelticPredator: Oct 11, 2013; 🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

I�m gonna fly out to meet the director of twixt and Jack

# ? Apr 16, 2025 10:35

Gaius Marius: Oct 9, 2012

CPL593H posted:

It sold out at 50 bucks a seat. Is the movie really some misunderstood masterpiece? All I've heard is that it's the cinematic equivalent of an old man's incoherent ramblings. Coppola's talk about it in the media didn't help matters. Not one single word I've heard about this film leads me to believe it's anything but an insane disaster.

It was the best film of last year and easily the best theatre experience I've had in the last five. Absolutely insane and beautiful film.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 10:38

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018; Got some
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CPL593H posted:

It sold out at 50 bucks a seat. Is the movie really some misunderstood masterpiece? All I've heard is that it's the cinematic equivalent of an old man's incoherent ramblings. Coppola's talk about it in the media didn't help matters. Not one single word I've heard about this film leads me to believe it's anything but an insane disaster.

The movie absolutely sucks and is insanely boring (although there are some beautiful visuals mixed in with all the Blender-preset CGI slop). Anything else is just terminal Letterboxd Brain. Watch One From The Heart instead.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 10:53

regulargonzalez: Aug 18, 2006

Gaius Marius posted:

It was the best film of last year and easily the best theatre experience I've had in the last five. Absolutely insane and beautiful film.

Failed Imagineer posted:

The movie absolutely sucks and is insanely boring (although there are some beautiful visuals mixed in with all the Blender-preset CGI slop). Anything else is just terminal Letterboxd Brain. Watch One From The Heart instead.

Love you, CD Genchat 2025: Part 6.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 11:01

Escobarbarian: Jun 18, 2004; Grimey Drawer

Both of those takes are equally accurate tbh. It�s an amazing movie that also sucks rear end.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 11:06

CelticPredator: Oct 11, 2013; 🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

🎵 He�s gonna take you back to the past 🎵

Escobarbarian posted:

It�s an amazing movie that also sucks rear end.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 12:00

CatstropheWaitress: Nov 26, 2017

I thought this post described it really well:

Nerdietalk posted:

I know its been six months since the movie came out and maybe I should've posted something then, but I thought about it fresh and just got so incandescently angry all over again.

Its honestly perfect that its a Robert Moses-analogue because you can really feel it stumbling through these conversations Power Broker presented about the nature of Moses' power just completely uncritically. The actual Cataline Conspiracy had, you know, real human people with beliefs. Catalina positioning himself as someone who could erase all debts, likely for the sake of power alone. Cicero understandably fighting to stop a coup but unable to recognize how he was defending a lovely status quo. Its a compelling philosophical and historical debate!

But its just a straight up lie to for Megalopolis to promote itself as a modern Cataline. Cesar doesn't do anything adjacent to a conspiracy. Its barely even about the Robert Moses stuff, despite how much Moses apologia runs through the film. He does all the Moses stuff, tearing down low-income housing and displacing people in poverty for his parks. He shoves his way through all practical realities, all to service his own vision of New York. At least the story of Moses involves so much legal trickery and clever tactics. Cesar just repeatedly uses his own fortune to subvert the city to his will. Even when Cesar allegedly doesn't have access to money anymore, the very fact that he's a powerful man makes reality and time just contort around him.

Because more than any other one analogue, its just a movie about power. Who deserves to wield it and who doesn't. Cesar has money and creative ideas, so he deserves power. Clodio is both queer-coded and Trump-coded, so he doesn't deserve power. Julia can break into government buildings to grab birth certificates, this is a valid expression of power. Vesta faking her age (?) and being from Indonesia (?) is not a valid expression of power. Wow Platinum using her sexuality to rise out of an implied low class status is not a valid expression of power. Dirty old man Crassus funding Cesar's vision and hoarding his vast is a valid expression of power. Creative vision and having the money to fund said vision overrules all the material realities of the world.

This movie isn't even about Moses. Its just about Coppola.

Cesar/Coppola wants to make Megalopolis. The world tells him no, you can't make Megalopolis. And Cesar/Coppola just keep pushing, fighting through common sense, overruling financial concerns, and generally ignoring any considerations he should be taking for his construction/film crew. Every board room meeting and every writing pitch must have looked the exact same: a room of money guys asking why this should be made and Coppola just repeating "imagination" over and over. When Cesar effortlessly convinces the angry homeless crowds of New York that you don't need food, you need dreams, its like you can peer into Coppola's memories, reliving every cancelled project or vetoed script he ever experienced.

I don't know what this movie looks like without forty years of Coppola obsessing over it. It constantly feeds into itself, so constantly about itself more than any other aspect of the world. Megalopolis about Megalopolis. Do we even need that Mike Figgins documentary that's supposedly in the works? I saw the movie. I saw everything about Coppola I needed to understand. I saw more of his soul than any other behind-the-scenes product could ever show me.

This movie sucks. It rules that it sucks. I think more movies should suck like this, instead of the different ways movies can suck. I hate it so much.

I hated it too, just some really ugly stuff sewn throughout, but nonetheless can appreciate the ambition.

CatstropheWaitress fucked around with this message at 12:46 on Apr 16, 2025

# ? Apr 16, 2025 12:35

Uncle Boogeyman: Jul 22, 2007

For the full Megalopolis experience, Coppola will go around the theater groping the female members of the audience

# ? Apr 16, 2025 12:44

Coaaab: Aug 6, 2006; Wish I was there...

Gaius Marius posted:

It was the best film of last year and easily the best theatre experience I've had in the last five. Absolutely insane and beautiful film.

Not going to see the theatrical first-run of cats will probably be one of my deathbed regrets

# ? Apr 16, 2025 12:57

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018; Got some
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That Nerdietalk post is an excellent summary. I was reading The Power Broker at the time I saw Megalopolis, which really fed into my "wtf is this poo poo" response to the childish crayon version presented on screen. It's the result of a Boomer smoking weed for 60 years and then getting you in a headlock to talk about Robert Moses and how the Roman Empire has, like, echoes in the modern American Empire, man. Just loving asinine.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 13:01

feedmyleg: Dec 25, 2004

ShoogaSlim posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHqL43ZDqF8

Like they can talk. My vote goes to Matt Stone and Trey Parker, the two smuggest, most self-satisfied people on the planet.

Bigger Longer and Uncut is still great, though.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 14:35

Uncle Boogeyman: Jul 22, 2007

Coaaab posted:

Not going to see the theatrical first-run of cats will probably be one of my deathbed regrets

it was a fairly indescribable experience

# ? Apr 16, 2025 14:58

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD: Sep 14, 2007; everything is yours

It was one of the last big movies in theaters before COVID restrictions, very surreal thing to go and see for yourself.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 15:06

Uncle Boogeyman: Jul 22, 2007

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

It was one of the last big movies in theaters before COVID restrictions, very surreal thing to go and see for yourself.

even in the moment it definitely felt like some sort of seal being opened. like i was in the theater to see the movie within a movie in Lamberto Bava's Demons.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 15:15

FreudianSlippers: Apr 12, 2010; Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

I sat through Dracula 3D to meet Argento.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 15:15

Uncle Boogeyman: Jul 22, 2007

FreudianSlippers posted:

I sat through Dracula 3D to meet Argento.

i sat through Survival of the Dead to meet Romero.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 15:16

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD: Sep 14, 2007; everything is yours

FreudianSlippers posted:

I sat through Dracula 3D to meet Argento.

I would GLADLY sit thru DRACULA 3D to meet Argento and get his thoughts on it.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 15:17

MacheteZombie: Feb 4, 2007

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

even in the moment it definitely felt like some sort of seal being opened. like i was in the theater to see the movie within a movie in Lamberto Bava's Demons.

Lol fan cut of demons with the movie replaced with scenes from cats

# ? Apr 16, 2025 15:26

MacheteZombie: Feb 4, 2007

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

i sat through Survival of the Dead to meet Romero.

That would have been worth it.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 15:27

Wolfsheim: Dec 23, 2003

I saw Cats in theaters on new years eve in 2019 and it really set the tone for the 2020s

# ? Apr 16, 2025 15:33

Data Graham: Dec 28, 2009; 📈📊🍪😋

I just watched the Cats movie recently and I didn't see anything particularly weird or wrong with it? Good performances all around, and they got Judi Dench to come in as Old Deut which is pretty awesome considering she was supposed to originate Grizabella back in the day but got injured.

I didn't get the butthole cut though if that's what the big deal was

# ? Apr 16, 2025 15:40

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Data Graham posted:

I just watched the Cats movie recently and I didn't see anything particularly weird or wrong with it?

Skill issue

# ? Apr 16, 2025 15:41

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD: Sep 14, 2007; everything is yours

I think a big issue with the CATS theatrical is that people thought for some reason that because it played 40 years on Broadway it wasn't weird as hell. It would be like if there was a 300 million STARLIGHT EXPRESS movie. That, too, would not come off as normal.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 15:44

Data Graham: Dec 28, 2009; 📈📊🍪😋

Importing from my other reaction post

Data Graham posted:

Cats is one of the fundamentally silliest performance concepts ever developed and if you aren't on board with what this movie did but you ARE on board with seeing it on Broadway I don't know what form of language we even have in common.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 15:50

josh04: Oct 19, 2008; "THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I think a big issue with the CATS theatrical is that people thought for some reason that because it played 40 years on Broadway it wasn't weird as hell. It would be like if there was a 300 million STARLIGHT EXPRESS movie. That, too, would not come off as normal.

I saw the expensive new Starlight Express they've got on in London and it's pretty weird and offputting but it can't compete with Cats (2019). I think it was a once-in-a-lifetime confluence of the weirdness of Andrew Lloyd Webber and the weirdness of Tom Hooper that just created something indescribable.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 15:59

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD: Sep 14, 2007; everything is yours

How much were tickets?

# ? Apr 16, 2025 16:01

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# ? Apr 18, 2025 14:38

Uncle Boogeyman: Jul 22, 2007

MacheteZombie posted:

That would have been worth it.

it definitely was. my signed copy of Dawn of the Dead is one of my most prized possessions.

# ? Apr 16, 2025 16:09

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