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Maxwell Lord posted:Rifftrax started out doing riffs on popular films, and some of those are pretty good. But I think their real genius has been in finding truly bizarre poo poo like Fun in Balloonland or Drugs Are Like That. They did do a number of riffs with the kind of weird old crap that they did in their MST3K days and those were always the best. Their whole thing just works so much better with weird old garbage.
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CPL593H posted:They did do a number of riffs with the kind of weird old crap that they did in their MST3K days and those were always the best. Their whole thing just works so much better with weird old garbage. The titles for some sound like parody. At Your Fingertips: Cylinders Is Corn Grass? Rhythmic Ball Skills
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Sourdough Sam posted:The titles for some sound like parody. I've seen those and they're hilarious.
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MacheteZombie posted:Tom Hooper should never be allowed to direct again, he'll never make anything as unique as Cats There was a director's roundtable Hollywood Reporter thing a few years ago and they were all passively aggressive towards Hooper, they clearly thought he was a hack and he seemed cowed about it. And Ridley Scott was passive aggressive to Tarantino and Iannucci for putting the cast and crew through hellish conditions because the dude had made like several thousand commercials before making Alien so held no truck with this arduous stunt condition film making David O Russel even got some jibes in on 'im The Peccadillo fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Apr 17, 2025 |
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The Peccadillo posted:And Ridley Scott was passive aggressive to Tarantino and Iannucci for putting the cast and crew through hellish conditions because the dude had made like several thousand commercials before making Alien so held no truck with this arduous stunt condition film making How did Ridley know this happened? Was he there?
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As a fan of old monster movies and shaggy sci-fi*, the "bad" aspect the movies they riff on doesn't matter to me. I enjoy MST3K because it feels like sitting around with some pals who have similar taste in movies* to me (rare, in my life), and similar senses of humor*, and goofing off together. It has real "middle school sleepover" energy. Or, these days, "getting stoned with comedian pals" energy. But the thing is, to me it rarely feels like MST3K is making fun of the movies they watch**. Instead, it feels like they're having fun with the movies, more loving rib than pointing and laughing. They feel like trash fans and officionados who want to be there, even if the characters don't. I forget if it was Cinematic Titanic or Rifftrax, but the one time I tried one of those spinoffs it just felt so meanspirited in comparison. Yes, a mediocre modern blockbuster deserves a lot more poo poo than an ambitious but untalented sci-fi filmmaker from the 70s. But the one I watched didn't feel like celebrating the film, it felt like smug snark. Which is a huge turnoff. Maybe I just happened to watch a dud. But there's a version of it that would totally work with Twilight, it just can't involve sneering at teenage girls while doing it. *probably to a large degree because of MST3K in the first place ** okay maybe some of the educational films
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A small effort-post about movies~! Cinema is a lively representation of life, more lively than books, music, even theatre. How realistic this representation is is secondary compared to the unity of a movie as a whole. In any case, such a lively representation projected in front of the spectator inevitably creates a wall that may be positive or negative to the movie. However, how realistic this representation of life is may still be a goal of cinema, and minimalism seems like the most sure way to achieve this. Minimalistic forms of cinema include cartoons, slow scenes, visually poor scenes and music breaks. However, since a movie is a continuous movement of images without break and with a one-way movement from the creator towards the spectator, minimalism seems to be difficult if not impossible.
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I dunno, I attended a career retrospective and presentation by Peter Kubelka once and at one point he unfurled a loop of film and ran it down all the rows of the audience so we could all touch it at once. He said, "This is all film is!" He was a radical advocate for seeing film as a series of images that could be anything, really. I agree with you that there's something alive about cinema, but I appreciate his viewpoint, having seen my share of experimental films.
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Yeah, editing any film/video gives you a real appreciation of film just being a series of images one after another that is connected to audio if you want. You can do a lot with that.
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As weird as that might sound, but dicking around with pictures and gifs on my phone has given me a deeper appreciation of film, blocking and editing. Looking for a place in a picture to put some text and starting to see the lines dividing up the frame, or realizing where stuff is and stays in a gif relative to a dumb pun I put in there has lead to some fun "woah" moments in the past.
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CPL593H posted:They did do a number of riffs with the kind of weird old crap that they did in their MST3K days and those were always the best. Their whole thing just works so much better with weird old garbage. Yeah, modern blockbuster films are too "good" to bother with, a bad movie will actually draw your attention.
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ShoogaSlim posted:just got back from seeing sinners. god drat it's good. go see it. drat, they actually threaded the needle? Hot drat, checking it out for sure.  The greatest movie riff of all time remains Wizard People, Dear Reader, Brad Neely's insane complete overlay of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. The concept is so freakin' good - narrating the movie as if it was an audiobook, with very liberal interpretations of what's going on in the screen. Lots of dumb jokes, but so many of them. quote:Threading thru the stratos is none other than Hagar the Horrible. A huge man, that if you didn't know better you may mistake him for a giant hairy truck. He is Dumbledore's gopher, and now perched on his leopard, he seems at the end of an errand that almost bested him. But lo! Out from his manly pape, he produces the most powerful baby in the universe. Dumbledore accepts the swaddled child like the delicate button of an atomic bomb. His bowels tense. No false moves here.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Yeah, modern blockbuster films are too "good" to bother with, a bad movie will actually draw your attention. It took me two days to watch Minecraft. So yes, absolutely
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After a few weeks of garbage in my local AMC, it looks like fun is back on the menu! One option is a nearly 2 hour Chinese film with no poster or description and just a simple title (Mumu), one is a Norwegian live-action Cinderella film I have no idea about but based on the tiny image beside the title it looks like a horror movie (The Ugly Step-Sister), what looks like an American comedy where they are highlighting that dude from SNL (The Wedding Banquet) and Sinners! I'll be using my 3 A-list tickets this week for sure, and I think I'll start tonight with Mumu since I love a good surprise. Unless anyone has strong opinions against it...
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VorpalBunny posted:After a few weeks of garbage in my local AMC, it looks like fun is back on the menu! The trailer for The Ugly Step-Sister is *rough* (in a good way if you're into body horror). Totally not my type of film, but seems like people into that will love it.
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CelticPredator posted:It took me two days to watch Minecraft. So yes, absolutely Nearly all of them are meant to be "smooth", full of bland incident with the dialogue turned all the way up. A "bad" movie is really fighting for it. BonoMan posted:The trailer for The Ugly Step-Sister is *rough* (in a good way if you're into body horror). Totally not my type of film, but seems like people into that will love it. I get the feeling it takes place all on one set. HUNDU THE BEAST GOD fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Apr 17, 2025 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Yeah, modern blockbuster films are too "good" to bother with, a bad movie will actually draw your attention. I think another big thing is that the average person's idea of what a really terrible movie is is incredibly limited. A Marvel movie sucks but it's not an abysmal void of baffling choices on every level. You're not going to see a lovely blockbuster film that's the product of a deeply weird person being given no restrictions and no oversight and very little money.
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Rascar Capac posted:How did Ridley know this happened? Was he there? They were very vocal about how the hateful 8 and the revenant were some cold rear end poo poo E: inarratu not Iannucci. I am dog poo poo at names The Peccadillo fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Apr 17, 2025 |
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kung fu kenny jumping into the Warfare discourse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzCl0AD-lXc
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josh04 posted:That's another great thing about Cats, it's indisputably the fault of Tom Hooper that it is how it is. Ccs made some good posts in the film industry thread about working on it. Another great thing is it was the last straw in people putting up with James Cordon
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The Peccadillo posted:They were very vocal about how the hateful 8 and the revenant were some cold rear end poo poo It's OK, I was just doing a joke about Ridley's belief that it's impossible to know whether anything happened unless you personally witnessed it.
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The Peccadillo posted:They were very vocal about how the hateful 8 and the revenant were some cold rear end poo poo Lol I was gonna say all due respect to Ridley Scott but I think the actors in In The Loop knew that Peter Capaldi wasn't mad at them irl.
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The Peccadillo posted:They were very vocal about how the hateful 8 and the revenant were some cold rear end poo poo I was wondering, like Death of Stalin couldn't be that hard of a shoot for someone that's been directing similar themed to shows for over a decade.
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ruddiger posted:kung fu kenny jumping into the Warfare discourse. To add to this no doubt uncontroversial discourse around Warfare, I saw it yesterday and this video covers a lot of the points. That the movie isn't really operator porn, as the main group of Navy Seals lose their poo poo really quickly, dealing with emotional trauma, terrible physical trauma and the fact they probably all have TBIs or concussions from grenades and IEDs and in the case of Will Poulter's character, have to cede command as he just isn't functioning. BUT that ignores the second group of Navy Seals led by Charles Meltons' Jake who engage in a running firefight across the city, come through without a scratch, and rescue the first group of Seals, including impersonating a commanding office on the radio to order some Bradleys to come get them . So, there actually is some operator porn. And the points about how the Seals are not really achieving anything, as the initial mission was to provide overwatch for some Marines to do ?? and we never know what that mission was and we never know the import or success of it, but we can guess it got scrubbed after the events of the movie, and how the Seals traumatise Iraqis and take them hostage and the movie does show how hosed it is (The Iraqi woman just screaming "why?" will stick with you) is all there, but for me I do think the movie is about how hosed up this all is and nothing is achieved, but it is 100% from the American perspective. Basically the movie says war sucks because look what it did to our American boys and I'm thinking about the Iraqis who had their lives ruined. To me this is clear by the fact the movie is dedicated to one of the Seals, Miller (played by Cosmo Jarvis), but it is NOT dedicated to the Iraqi soldier/translator who was gruesomely killed in the IED blast that crippled Miller . Why pick only one of those guys for the dedication? Because, I guess to the filmmakers, only one of them mattered and that's the problem. It doesn't completely discount what the Americans did to the Iraqis, but it's not as interested in that as it is in the suffering experienced by the Americans and that just feels off. Imagine a WWII movie about some German soldiers in France getting hosed up by the French Resistance and we experience it from the German side, the movie provides no context for why the soldiers are there and then the movie ends with the real German soldiers meeting the actors playing them in the movie. You would side-eye that movie so hard and that's Warfare, but about the Second Iraq War instead of WWII. To be nicer, the movie is a technical marvel, there are no complaints about staging of the action or the performances or the amazing sound work that should receive awards, I have been overall negative about the film, but the sounds of the IED and the screams are still sticking with me. And there are some little things that are some really black comedy, like some Seals just not watching where they put their feet. Also, great opening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qetW6R9Jxs4
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Rascar Capac posted:It's OK, I was just doing a joke about Ridley's belief that it's impossible to know whether anything happened unless you personally witnessed it. That's not his belief Edit: it was an off the cuff diss to ppl criticising the lack of historical accuracy in his Napoleon And he was right to tell them to gently caress off, because anyone who knows a bit of history and has seen a Scott free joint knows that's never been a thing in these movies Blood Boils fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Apr 18, 2025 |
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ShoogaSlim posted:just got back from seeing sinners. god drat it's good. go see it. Just got back from seeing Sinners. loving wow. Best movie of the year to date. I can't believe how smart it was - and how much it understood how to make music magical. We just spent a couple pages talking about Cats, but Sinners shows how to do music right. It's jaw dropping. Thanks Shooga for posting this, probably would have slept on it a few more days before seeing - don't be like me - go see it. Posted a thread for more discusso on it! -> https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4086867
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CatstropheWaitress posted:Just got back from seeing Sinners. loving wow. Best movie of the year to date. I can't believe how smart it was - and how much it understood how to make music magical. Ryan Coogler’s ‘Sinners’ has a surprising inspiration: Metallica quote:The Oakland native had a surprising inspiration when making the film: Metallica. More of the interview at the link.
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I just came back from Mumu and I haven't cried like this at a movie in ages. I'm a fairly cynical moviegoer, but maybe being a parent has softened me (I did have a pretty good day with my kids, which is rare these days thanks to the ravages of puberty and mood swings) because even though I knew the cinematic manipulation that was going on I totally went with it. Piano score, amazing child actress, a single parent with a disability raising a quirky little kid, it hit all the beats with flair. And the scene in the airport just grabbed me by the tearducts, I'm literally a little weepy just remembering it. I'm sure this is carefully constructed Chinese media propaganda, but the Chinese sure do come across as woke and progressive here. The final little speech at the end, the real deaf folks who acted in the film and the social media clips over the credits hammer that point in, so kudos to everyone involved even if they do point out over and over again that this particular story is a work of fiction. It's kind of funny, the last Asian film I went into flying blind was the Hong Kong film Papa, which was about a man dealing with life after his son murdered his wife and daughter. And that was very much based on a true story. Quite the contrast, but I'm so glad I had no idea what I was in for with either of them. Mumu is right up there with Black Bag for me this year, in terms of entertainment and quality and amazing performances. I can't wait to catch Sinners later this week, and whatever other random films I find at my local AMC.
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Blood Boils posted:That's not his belief This was just my off-the-cuff diss to Ridley for claiming that history is unknowable, just to defend his entirely mid Napolen film.
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VorpalBunny posted:I just came back from Mumu and I haven't cried like this at a movie in ages. I'm a fairly cynical moviegoer, but maybe being a parent has softened me (I did have a pretty good day with my kids, which is rare these days thanks to the ravages of puberty and mood swings) because even though I knew the cinematic manipulation that was going on I totally went with it. Piano score, amazing child actress, a single parent with a disability raising a quirky little kid, it hit all the beats with flair. And the scene in the airport just grabbed me by the tearducts, I'm literally a little weepy just remembering it. I’m glad it worked out for you! I love movies that make me actually feel something, and I live going into movies completely blind and loving what I see. It’s such a great experience.
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therattle posted:I live going into movies completely blind and loving what I see. It’s such a great experience. I don't really experience this anymore because at the very least if I'm thinking about seeing something I'll look it up on Letterboxd and see the ratings curve, synopsis, and maybe read a few friends' reviews or possibly the top reviews if they aren't low signal to noise. I miss the days of discovering stuff on cable just by flicking through channels, like that's how I had the delightful experience of watching Real Genius for the first time, although my memory of the movie will be missing its first ten minutes forever.
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CPL593H posted:I think another big thing is that the average person's idea of what a really terrible movie is is incredibly limited. A Marvel movie sucks but it's not an abysmal void of baffling choices on every level. You're not going to see a lovely blockbuster film that's the product of a deeply weird person being given no restrictions and no oversight and very little money. Should be clear at this point that nothing is worse than a frictionless Content Experience.
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Dumb question - how scary is Sinners? I'm a big dumb baby that can't really handle horror movies. Like, I can handle tense stuff but jump scares and body horror are basically out.
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Mild imo? There are a couple of scares - half the theater I was in did a legit "AH" at one point and gasp at another. And it gets bloody. No body horror. It gets very tense, but that comes from a place of you being so invested in the characters. Literally someone in front of me leaving the theater was complaining to their friend that it wasn't scary.
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CatstropheWaitress posted:Mild imo? That sounds pretty decent then. Might have to check it out. We generally don't watch anything like slashers, body horror stuff, or anything filled with jump scares. If I'm going to watch horror, I want something more in the vein of Crimson Peak - something to unsettle slightly with strong vibes. No shade on the people who go watch horror movies, it's just not an experience I enjoy.
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Mordiceius posted:That sounds pretty decent then. Might have to check it out. We generally don't watch anything like slashers, body horror stuff, or anything filled with jump scares. Same here.
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There’s horror films for everyone. It’s the best and most perfect genre.
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Servoret posted:I don't really experience this anymore because at the very least if I'm thinking about seeing something I'll look it up on Letterboxd and see the ratings curve, synopsis, and maybe read a few friends' reviews or possibly the top reviews if they aren't low signal to noise. I'm the opposite, I don't even watch trailers. I stand outside the theater until the AMC Coke ad music comes on, and this bit me in the butt when I did that for a foreign film and it turns out they didn't run a trailer package before the film. So I missed the first 10 minutes, when I realized I was hearing dialogue and not trailer music. I was so blind on this movie I had no idea who the lead guy was. He is very handsome, and a great actor, and I was very amused to discover that he's a Chinese pop star! I was wondering how they found such a great deaf/mute actor for the lead, turns out he's like a Chinese Harry Styles who can actually act. It's like when I went to Ne Zha 2 completely blind, never saw the first film and didn't understand all the anti-American references until I went home after and started looking it all up. I love these little surprises, like going to a dinner party with strangers only to discover the dude who you sat next to and shared small talk with owns an airline.
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