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DoR was slapped once already, yeah? And Zoya and FoS now? So DoR is in danger of being slap-killed.
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Cube are you a survivor? I don't really see any reason you'd have both an anti vote and bulletproof mechanic if not. Then again I guess we both had exactly that as town and scum in volume wars.
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Feb 13, 2025 05:10
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:Hmmmm... It's a very reasonable thought but I think we know that's unlikely to happen.
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Feb 13, 2025 05:10
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Current hypothesis: scumZoya + scum(other person). Busdrive (Hal + player X). NK player X. Zoya "I redirected everyone away from Hal, randomly!" Hal dead. Docs foiled.
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Feb 13, 2025 05:13
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Very interested in seeing how the vote today shakes out.
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Feb 13, 2025 05:16
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fool of sound posted:Cube are you a survivor? I don't really see any reason you'd have both an anti vote and bulletproof mechanic if not. Then again I guess we both had exactly that as town and scum in volume wars. If I said something like "I'll answer this question for a fish" is that too close to the "no toxxing (because of game-breaking strategies)" rule? Is "just asking this question by itself" NAI-enough that it doesn't answer the question already? Hmm. I do think it's NAI-enough for me to ask that question as my response here.
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Feb 13, 2025 05:21
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CubicalSucrose posted:You can't double-slap FoS today, correct? But you could theoretically slap the others if you get more fish? Yep. I don't want to kill Roses though, and I have 0 interest in slapping Maugrim or shwin at the moment.
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Feb 13, 2025 05:26
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CubicalSucrose posted:It's a very reasonable thought but I think we know that's unlikely to happen.  
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CubicalSucrose posted:If I said something like "I'll answer this question for a fish" is that too close to the "no toxxing (because of game-breaking strategies)" rule? IMO no, because there's no out-of-game long term consequences in play. If you said "paypal/venmo me $5 and I'll answer this question" that would be over the line as you've then brought out-of-game IRL cash into it. Toxxing fit this profile as it brought in out-of-game long term consequences of being banned and having to pay $10 in order to play games again if failed.
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Feb 13, 2025 05:34
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That said I sure wouldn't expect the fish to be worth spending that way as opposed to doing something else with it.
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Feb 13, 2025 05:36
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:That said I sure wouldn't expect the fish to be worth spending that way as opposed to doing something else with it. Yeah but FoS has already claimed to not be able to do anything with fish and is vote leader at the moment.
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Feb 13, 2025 05:37
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FoS and DoR are not the same person, as I discovered earlier. I think we should vote tmor, with fos being okay too
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Feb 13, 2025 05:38
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I'm not going to hand cube a fish when there's a claim that fish make them invincible anyway.
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Feb 13, 2025 07:16
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Also wrt fish theft i have been stolen from twice. Bastards.
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Feb 13, 2025 07:17
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fool of sound posted:Also wrt fish theft i have been stolen from twice. Bastards. 
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fool of sound posted:Also wrt fish theft i have been stolen from twice. Bastards. Mmmhmm. Sure, Jan
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Oh. I guess cube surv makes sense of both the squirrelly fish gathering and the overall town vibes. It also potentially changes the maths on exlo, but apparently there's nothing we can do about it now (other than everyone posting a ridiculous amount to get him in the bottom 1/3 two days in a row)
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Feb 13, 2025 08:41
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And let me tell you I won't be posting that much (I thought I was posting quite a bit for me but I'm still near the bottom!)
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Feb 13, 2025 08:44
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:Mmmhmm. Sure, Jan Are you only pretending to not know this is a weird rear end setup.
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Feb 13, 2025 09:10
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I don't expect this to help my case at all but I'm a town bus driver of the swapper variety (actions used on one of my targets affect the other, and vice-versa). N1 I swapped yuming and tsi in the hopes that the former would vig herself. N2 I swapped DoR and cube, guessing that yuming might target the former and deciding I'd rather go after cube.
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Feb 13, 2025 09:14
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I am Neal the Seal, who plays with traffic cones
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fool of sound posted:Are you only pretending to not know this is a weird rear end setup. It's weird but you're only just now claiming to be the third fish theft victim after Cube's taken himself off the table as possibly a means to avoid becoming the vote by process of elimination.
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Feb 13, 2025 09:25
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:It's weird but you're only just now claiming to be the third fish theft victim after Cube's taken himself off the table as possibly a means to avoid becoming the vote by process of elimination. I don't see how it affect my case one way or another, it's just information when I inevitably flip town.
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Man alive. So we have Zoya who can turn somebody into a nexus vs. you as a bus driver, me as a lurker dayvig that has to shoot targets twice vs. yuming who is a nightvig that fails on scum targets, and Roses as a doctor who doesn't use fish vs. Moritz who has shareable BP. What made you think trying to guess what yuming was going to do was a safer bet than simply protecting Hal?
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Feb 13, 2025 09:38
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fool of sound posted:I don't see how it affect my case one way or another, it's just information when I inevitably flip town. I suppose it's possible that the entire scumteam apart from whoever's performing the kill can all steal fish. Hmm...
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Feb 13, 2025 09:41
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:What made you think trying to guess what yuming was going to do was a safer bet than simply protecting Hal? I assumed that if we had any protective or information roles they'd target hal and i didn't want to retarget all them them.
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Feb 13, 2025 09:49
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17 to start; 4 scum in a traditional formula composition. Rhymes was eliminated D2, meaning likely 3 scum left at that point. Two thefts are reported for N1, from Roses and FoS. Two thefts are reported for N2, from FoS and myself. Rhymes had to have fed prior to her night action, but I'm guessing everybody started with one freebie, so the numbers on this pan out, at least.
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fool of sound posted:I assumed that if we had any protective or information roles they'd target hal and i didn't want to retarget all them them. The killer would end up targeting whoever you switched Hal with, though, just as much as yuming would hypothetically have been swapped over to Cube when targeting Roses.
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Feb 13, 2025 10:00
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Soooooo what resulted in you not thinking along those lines?
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Okay I finally got my poo poo together for my sub to today's contest: https://voca.ro/1eDphoyjnSvD Slightly imperfect take on the seal's portion of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ5gyhj5qeE
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wologar posted:Cubical Sucrose has sneakily slipped away from the colony! And nobody noticed!  Cube, clarify something for me. The way you're talking about this is implying you can do it multiple times. Have I got that right? If so, I assume this is a matter of costing fish. Yes?
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:Soooooo what resulted in you not thinking along those lines? That's wouldn't solve the issue about confusing information results. A watcher spotting the killer is more valuable than preventing the kill.
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fool of sound posted:Also wrt fish theft i have been stolen from twice. Bastards. fool of sound posted:I don't expect this to help my case at all but I'm a town bus driver of the swapper variety (actions used on one of my targets affect the other, and vice-versa). N1 I swapped yuming and tsi in the hopes that the former would vig herself. N2 I swapped DoR and cube, guessing that yuming might target the former and deciding I'd rather go after cube. I believe either of these things. The claim has now turned from having "no way to use fish" into a powerful and disruptive action that still doesn't cost fish, oh but I still don't have any fish because they were stolen, which I haven't mentioned before, even when the question of multiple fish thefts was actively being discussed before it was revealed to be a mod error. ##vote fool
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:I believe either of these things. God drat it, I DON'T* believe either of these things.
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I have two fish? Started with 1, earned 1 via naming a fish on day 1, got one from the lucky roulette n1, got one from art. Two were stolen, I have two remaining.
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fool of sound posted:That's wouldn't solve the issue about confusing information results. A watcher spotting the killer is more valuable than preventing the kill. "It's more important that an information role gets the right info on the night kill than that an important role is swapped with somebody who I think might flip scum and make it possible to snowball town's win or at least get that guy's info." - supposedly town FoS, 2/13/2025 ##vote FoS
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Hal got action result information that caught Rhymes dead to rights. There is no way I will believe that you with a proper townmind would think there was a hypothetical info role that could get more information than he could that would make your action justifiable.
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It probably doesn't really need much explaining, but outside being able to make a given player's action result text public it's hard to think of something better than what Hal had, and here you are claiming that keeping Hal alive was worth less than letting somebody who may or may not exist get the right info about his death. Actually, there's an even more fundamental problem here: that hypothetical watcher would still see whoever killed the person you switched Hal with and in that universe Hal would also still be alive and maybe have a separate catch to share today!
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absolutely loving not buying this ##vote fool of sound
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Disco Anne posted:absolutely loving not buying this ^scum vote when i flip town
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