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yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Yes!

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yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Weird question but is anyone into vore? In game of course. 😂

##vote Fos in support of Cubes good bit. GO GO

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Ignatius M. Meen posted:

Here I was going to go into number/seal/seal number facts, but... yeah that's gonna require some explaining.
I can say with confidence that you must be a seal to be seal-aligned and ofc I am a seal.

Do any seals want to be eaten?

That, I do not know— but I wonder.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Ignatius M. Meen posted:

:dafuq:

Why would a seal want to be eaten? Who but a predator would eat the seal? What makes you think there are specifically things that eat seals in this game to begin with?
I don’t know I’m trying to figure out what the purpose of my role is because it doesn’t sound very useful unless someone wants to be eaten.

hth

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Ignatius M. Meen posted:

That's really bizarre. wolo game, so the purpose could be a lot of things, but I think at a minimum I wanna know what happens to people you 'eat'.
They are removed from the game.

I honestly don’t know why I would want to do this that’s why I’m posting about it v:shobon:v

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Hyper Crab Tank posted:

What, like, permanently?
Yes it makes it sound like I am a vig who can only remove town so the only reason my role would exist is if there is a player who wants to be eaten/removed from the game.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Ignatius M. Meen posted:

What makes you think the vig only works on town players?
It only works on seals.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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SporkChan posted:

You think yuming is a cop, who will kill every town person she scans, and only fail on 3P or scum, and you want her to use that ability?

The opportunity cost is so high for that. It's not worth it. Especially since if she's wrong town is down a player immediately, and if she's right we still have to vote the person out.

Yuming is a threat, though probably not scum.

But Iggy being okay with that is and advising she keep using the ability is scummy.

##vote Iggy
Exactly I’m never going to use it unless there’s a player that wants it to happen for some reason.

Hence why I claimed it :sparkles:

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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I’m a leopard seal.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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mycelia posted:

Mm, point taken. I assume there's something more to it, but idk if speculating on it is the best use of my time right now. If Yuming agrees to Iggy's plan I think it's worth a try, at least for tonight.
I am down. Honestly I wasn’t going to use it but that is a good idea :sun:

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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I’ll have some time soon, it’s almost naptime.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Oh nice I was just thinking about how I wanna go to the Kalahari~

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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mycelia posted:

Or this, I guess. Definitely a weird d1 claim either way.
mycelia may be scum.

I read FoS' comment about finally being town as sincere so not interested in voting him (I know it doesn't matter atm just spitting mad reads.)

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Rhymes With Clue posted:

Well the problem with an indoor water park in Wisconsin is that sooner or later you have to go outside and then you're in Wisconsin. In the winter. (I have nothing against Wisconsin, I'm just cold-blooded, and yet I live in Denver.)
Well I live in MN so it is p much the same. :sun:

##vote mycelia

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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CLOSE THE POOL

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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mycelia posted:

gang ill be real with you i absolutely thought seals also arfed :eng99: my life is a lie
It's for noise posts like this, tbh. mycelia has been around but I'm getting a sideline-scum vibe.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Rhymes With Clue posted:

So happy I showed up for this D1 EOD.
Party at the Kalahari.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Iggy's claim as scum makes zero sense and thus I think the reason the votes stalled out is scum didn't want to try and hop on a train with nowhere to go, ya know.

Molly could fit as an easy alternative.

I'm still rereading but have a neutral read of molly did not think her FoS vote was scummy (some players did.)

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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mollyohreally posted:

vote spork myc or cube tomorrow dorks
Spork parking his vote on Iggy is so out there it reads like town to me?

In a like AHA I'VE GOT IT sense.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Votecount for Day 1

⚪⚪🟢🟢🟢🟢🟢🟢🟢 mollyohreally (7): shwinnebego, shwinnebego, shwinnebego, Disco Anne, fool of sound, Maugrim, CubicalSucrose, Ignatius M. Meen, Hyper Crab Tank, Rhymes With Clue, CubicalSucrose, Maugrim, CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose, SporkChan, CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪🟢🟢🟢🟢 mycelia (4): CubicalSucrose, Rhymes With Clue, CubicalSucrose, Rhymes With Clue, mollyohreally, yuming, Maugrim, Hal Incandenza
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪🟢🟢 Ignatius M. Meen (2): Disco Anne, SporkChan, Disco Anne, mollyohreally, Zoya, DreamingofRoses, SporkChan, SporkChan, mollyohreally, SporkChan
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪🟢 Disco Anne (1): Tsietisin
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪ shwinnebego (0): Ignatius M. Meen, Ignatius M. Meen
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪ yuming (0): Zoya, Ignatius M. Meen, Ignatius M. Meen, Zoya
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪ Rhymes With Clue (0): Zoya, SporkChan, Zoya, SporkChan
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪ SporkChan (0): Zoya, Zoya, mollyohreally, mollyohreally
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪ fool of sound (0): mollyohreally, CubicalSucrose, yuming, CubicalSucrose, mollyohreally, yuming
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪ Tired Moritz (0): Disco Anne, Disco Anne
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪ Maugrim (0): shwinnebego, shwinnebego, Zoya, Zoya


Not voting: CubicalSucrose, mycelia, Tired Moritz

With 17 alive, it's 9 votes to execute. The current deadline is February 08th, 2025 at 8 p.m. UTC -- that's in about 6 minutes.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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CubicalSucrose posted:

I think Myc's flip means that either:
- HCT is non-scum
- HCT is scum and at least one probably-interesting 3P role exists.
I ate mycelia

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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1. I thought he was plausibly scum. (Bzzt wrong.)
2. Tsi gave an excuse not to be around so I didn’t wanna target him.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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##vote Zoya

Scummy “PR.”

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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yuming posted:

1. I thought he was plausibly scum. (Bzzt wrong.)
2. Tsi gave an excuse not to be around so I didn’t wanna target him.
3. There was discussion surrounding him so now we know D1 was smooth sailing for scum.

Zoyas body of work fits well with that scum POV, I think.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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fool of sound posted:

Why didn’t you target tsi, who had fewest posts, as per your agreement with iggy
Because he said he was afk. I thought about targeting Moritz but I thought mycelia was a better choice v:shobon:v

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Hyper Crab Tank posted:

The claim was the only way around, only eats town.
I non lethally killed him. I’m sorry myc “mike” celia.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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The case writes itself.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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*insert awesome photoshop of leopard seal me looking menacing*

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Ignatius M. Meen posted:

You do realize you're essentially asking me to prove I didn't paste (I'm assuming) your message to me in scumchat, right? How the gently caress do you expect me to do that again in good faith, while understanding that if I'm town I can't really prove a negative and if I'm scum I'm gonna lie my rear end off?

If you're asking in good faith how you could tell if I were scum or not based on the play so far, frankly the best option from my perspective for a scum play would've been to pretend I never got the message and try to kill you overnight. Most comment you'd get after that is "dang, must've told the wrong person he was informed" if anything. Doesn't try to guess who the mystery confirmed townie is, doesn't reveal I'm the recipient, goes straight with the info that's actually present, guaranteed to whittle away at town's ability to confirm itself. I'll freely admit I have no goddamned idea if a scumteam with your message would guess it was you instead of guessing it wrong and maybe killing mycelia, and as such I don't expect this to have a whole hell of a lot of persuasive power, but that's the best I can offer.

Re: yuming, I'd vote her for it because she explicitly claimed first that she wouldn't use it at all and only now is using it however she feels like instead of having any interest in at least proving her word means anything.
:sun:

So here's my thought process: the threat of the vigkill was where the real juicy content was.

Tsi said he was going to be afk, ergo, I thought he was highly unlikely to be scum. (Also I think Tsi is selective with games and didn't want to kill him early.)

I thought about targeting Moritz as the second lowest poster, but I thought if he died it would be a relatively useless flip.

I also thought about Zoya, whose noise posting had pinged me as scummy. But no one had commented on this either.

However, mycelia got some votes at EOD1. mycelia commented on the lurker plan and made a point to post a lot without saying too much. I thought he would be a good balance of content + adhering to the lurker idea that was originally the plan. I also think the posters who went out of their way to avoid being at the bottom of the list are more suspicious than those who didn't bother.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Ignatius M. Meen posted:

I think outside something exceptional happening it's yuming for me today. Weird ideas about weird roles are one thing, but then she followed that up by first talking about sitting on her hands instead of handling it like a normal vig solely because it doesn't work on non-seal/non-town players, then claimed to agree with the baseline idea I had of at least doing something I thought could be useful for a bit, then abandoned that in favor of her scum read on mycelia. I want to know if my side guess was right and she's actually a gray seal SK who figured Tsi wouldn't taste good and didn't really want to help catch scum. ##vote yuming
Do you think killing Tsi would've been better to advance the game state than mycelia?

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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It sounds like there is some role stuff going on between HCT and Iggy, so not interested in going there unless they wanna just flat share their info.

Cube I think is town.

I would vote:
Zoya
DoR
DiscoAnne

swhinn and Moritz I'm lowkey suspicious and want to hear more from them.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Hyper Crab Tank posted:

I suppose an interesting question is, why did scum not kill Iggy, after the plan he so strongly advocated yesterday? It suggests they're fine with the bottom of the list being vigged.
See, I was just trying to advance us one step beyond by assuming scum were smart enough not to get caught in a lurker trap ! !

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Hyper Crab Tank posted:

There is no info to share, mycelia already flipped. I knew mycelia was town, like his role PM said. I can send day messages. I sent one to Iggy telling him I knew of a mod confirmed town player. I didn't tell him it was mycelia though. That's it.
Gotcha, well if that's all then I think it makes everyone involved +town.

So my comment on not being interested in killing either of you stands.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Ignatius M. Meen posted:

This all adds up to "I decided to shoot my read instead of follow the plan". If that'd been your stance from the start, that'd have been cool and good and I'd have left you to shoot away and prove you were trustworthy by your shot choice. If you never believed in the plan as stated in the first place, you could have said "no I won't do that", or "I'm probably going to shoot a content lurker instead" and I would have modified my expectations accordingly. Instead, you lied about what you were thinking and you don't even have anything town-positive to show for it. How am I gonna take you at face value on what you're going to do now?
I had agree to the bargain for the lurker threat to be there. I did so with the full intention of tipping the scale.

Had it been say DoR I would’ve taken that shot.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Ignatius M. Meen posted:

Yes. 100%. I wouldn't have to beef with you over not going along with things, and also ending up right in the middle of the thing between HCT and me - he sent me an anonymous message yesterday asking me what to do about getting a town player confirmed for him when it had nothing to do with his role. I had no idea who sent the message and would've liked to be able to be in on an ersatz friendly neighbor society.
But you don’t have to beef with me about honor and truth, you can analyze the same content I have about the players who avoided being at the bottom of the post count.

Do you think scum have infinite multi kills? I guess you could think I’m 3p but eh

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Hyper Crab Tank posted:

As for me, no, I think you're town or 3P precisely for that reason. But I am also wary of a situation where you eat someone every night and then come in at MYLO saying "my target X didn't die, they must be scum" and we walk into a loss. You see why that makes me apprehensive?
Yes that is fair.

I will uphold the bargain tonight. Lurkers beware. :sun:

In behavioral science they say variable reinforcement rates can be the most motivating.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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CubicalSucrose posted:

BREAKING: Video footage of Yuming 1 hour before Mycelia found dead.


I almost switched to Zoya but I had already sent it in v:shobon:v

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Disco Anne posted:

As for yuming, pretty sure she's not scum, but yuming how sure are you that you can only munch town?
fmpov 100%

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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I thought that was a +town comment from cube

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yuming
Feb 26, 2008

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Hmmm not sure what to make of that Cube response. -town points I think.

Surprised no one is biting for Zoya but I’ll move here.

##vote DoR

I wanna make a seal hope I have time ! !

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